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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am not an employee of the FAA but I am a member
of the FAASTEAM see <A
href="http://www.faasafety.gov">www.faasafety.gov</A> and I have some
input to the system. Washington has been watching the data from our CWOP
stations and seeing much better quality than the AWOS is presenting.
They are asking question. Compare KLAL and CW7718 for an example. Some of
these WX stations are municipal owned. I was not able to locate the KCLK station
but If they are broadcasting improper data, I may be able to call
some attention to it. It is germane to flight safety</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don </FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=eholmes@aeneas.net href="mailto:eholmes@aeneas.net">Eddie Holmes</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net
href="mailto:wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net">'Discussion of weather data
quality issues'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [wxqc] KCLK now 6 degrees
too low - NWS gives a youknowwhat?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">When I've inquired about similar
situations, I've been told it's the FAA's baby! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bureaucratic wheels turn slowly!
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-Eddie<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net">wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net</A>
[mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of <A
href="mailto:weatherok@pldi.net">weatherok@pldi.net</A><BR>Sent: Thursday, May
03, 2007 12:05 PM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net">wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net</A><BR>Subject:
[wxqc] KCLK now 6 degrees too low - NWS gives a youknowwhat?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I'm somewhat surprises about the sloppy
approach of NWS towards crappy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">quality of weather data in the AWOS
network. Months ago I have learned<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">that KCLK is not a real NOAA station but
somehow yes, at that time i t was<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">about 4 degrees too low. Meanwhile the
temp sensor is running away to a 6<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">degree error, but either the airport or
Vaisala (I've been told it's their<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sensors) or the NWS or all people
involved don't care.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Almost bizarre how motivated amateurs are
to elimate their "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Gladstone</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">errors" when we see a really bad
"official" station delivering that amount<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">of bad data.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This problem has been discussed here a
while ago, but obviously without<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">the least bit of consequences -
surprisingly for me. What do you folks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">think?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">jk<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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