From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Sat Mar 1 10:46:47 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:46:47 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! Message-ID: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> Folks, We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to the CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or DW id to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports 23 or 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are dedicated to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go to the APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL get to MADIS. There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the same server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more autonomy in the future. If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been tuned to perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the long run. For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the servers for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also am the culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I make most of the changes on them so that their sysops are not overburdened with additional tasks. We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS-IS Core sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate server pools and services, though, for some good technical reasons. Gerry -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Sat Mar 1 11:28:22 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:28:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! Message-ID: The recommendations that Gerry gives below are condensed and linked from the upper right column of most of the main pages on www.wxqa.com under the title of "APRS Servers to Use". Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Creager Date: Saturday, March 1, 2008 4:46 pm Subject: [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > Folks, > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to > the > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or > DW id > to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports > 23 or > 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are > dedicated > to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go to the > APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL get > to MADIS. > > There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the > same > server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more > autonomy in > the future. > > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server > destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been tuned > to > perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the > full > gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* > servers and > making a migration to them will help us all in the long run. > > For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and > aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the > servers > for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also am > the > culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I make > most of > the changes on them so that their sysops are not overburdened with > additional tasks. > > We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS-IS > Core > sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate server > pools > and services, though, for some good technical reasons. > > Gerry > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From unkajim at comcast.net Sat Mar 1 12:40:47 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:40:47 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! References: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <001c01c87bcb$c46e7550$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Posting to this list, asking for uploads to be changed to the new servers is like preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I would venture that all who follow the postings in this list have already made the changes. It's the 2000 some uploaders who are apparently blissfully unaware of all the recent happenings that need to get the message somehow. Just now, I took a look at all the CWOP stations listed in the "Nearby Weather Stations" list for my station. Of the 20 stations on the list, 10 have the CW id. Looking at the raw weather packets of them one by one, I am seeing only 3 of the 10 using the new server designation. Of those 3 using cwop.aprs.net, one is my station, another is the only other station in my little town who only made the switch after I emailed him to make him aware of the requested changes, and the last one must have been paying attention. Perhaps all of us following this list should pull up their "Nearby Weather Stations" list, click on the CW/DW stations one by one and look to see if they are not posting to the cwop.aprs.net server designation. We could find their CWOP registered email address and attempt to send them a carefully worded request to make the change. Jim, CW0825 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Creager" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > Folks, > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to the > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or DW id > to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports 23 or > 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are dedicated > to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go to the > APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL get to > MADIS. > > There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the same > server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more autonomy in > the future. > > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server > destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been tuned to > perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the full > gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* servers and > making a migration to them will help us all in the long run. > > For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and > aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the servers > for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also am the > culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I make most of > the changes on them so that their sysops are not overburdened with > additional tasks. > > We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS-IS Core > sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate server pools > and services, though, for some good technical reasons. > > Gerry > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From paulgrace at lookoutranch.com Sat Mar 1 12:55:52 2008 From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com (Paul Grace) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:55:52 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! In-Reply-To: <001c01c87bcb$c46e7550$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> References: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> <001c01c87bcb$c46e7550$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Message-ID: <009701c87bcd$dfb6cb30$0200a8c0@dell1500> Couldn't this be automated? -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Jim Pace Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:41 To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! Posting to this list, asking for uploads to be changed to the new servers is like preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I would venture that all who follow the postings in this list have already made the changes. It's the 2000 some uploaders who are apparently blissfully unaware of all the recent happenings that need to get the message somehow. Just now, I took a look at all the CWOP stations listed in the "Nearby Weather Stations" list for my station. Of the 20 stations on the list, 10 have the CW id. Looking at the raw weather packets of them one by one, I am seeing only 3 of the 10 using the new server designation. Of those 3 using cwop.aprs.net, one is my station, another is the only other station in my little town who only made the switch after I emailed him to make him aware of the requested changes, and the last one must have been paying attention. Perhaps all of us following this list should pull up their "Nearby Weather Stations" list, click on the CW/DW stations one by one and look to see if they are not posting to the cwop.aprs.net server designation. We could find their CWOP registered email address and attempt to send them a carefully worded request to make the change. Jim, CW0825 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Creager" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:46 AM Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > Folks, > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to the > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or DW > id to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports > 23 or 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are > dedicated to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go > to the APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL > get to MADIS. > > There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the same > server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more autonomy > in the future. > > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server > destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been tuned to > perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the > full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* > servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the long run. > > For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and > aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the servers > for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also am > the culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I make > most of the changes on them so that their sysops are not overburdened > with additional tasks. > > We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS-IS > Core sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate server > pools and services, though, for some good technical reasons. > > Gerry > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas > A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or > change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From steve at steveswww.com Sat Mar 1 13:29:31 2008 From: steve at steveswww.com (steveswww) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:29:31 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Mass notices! References: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu><001c01c87bcb$c46e7550$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> <009701c87bcd$dfb6cb30$0200a8c0@dell1500> Message-ID: <01fb01c87bd2$930758e0$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> Russ/Philip, Everyone who signs up for CWOP does so with an email address. Is it possible to automate this list for "mandatory" updates/notices? It has come up before as a suggestion but I never saw anyone comment or respond to it. What about a "Header" on the Quality reports that go out daily? Just trying to help. Thanks... Steve Fehlhaber - CW4759 Monroe, UT. www.steveswww.com/utah.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Grace" To: "'Discussion of weather data quality issues'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > Couldn't this be automated? > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Jim Pace > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:41 > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > > Posting to this list, asking for uploads to be changed to the new servers > is > like preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I would venture that all who > follow > the postings in this list have already made the changes. It's the 2000 > some > uploaders who are apparently blissfully unaware of all the recent > happenings > that need to get the message somehow. > Just now, I took a look at all the CWOP stations listed in the "Nearby > Weather Stations" list for my station. Of the 20 stations on the list, 10 > have the CW id. Looking at the raw weather packets of them one by one, I > am > seeing only 3 of the 10 using the new server designation. Of those 3 using > cwop.aprs.net, one is my station, another is the only other station in my > little town who only made the switch after I emailed him to make him aware > of the requested changes, and the last one must have been paying > attention. > Perhaps all of us following this list should pull up their "Nearby Weather > Stations" list, click on the CW/DW stations one by one and look to see if > they are not posting to the cwop.aprs.net server designation. We could > find > their CWOP registered email address and attempt to send them a carefully > worded request to make the change. > Jim, > CW0825 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Creager" > To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:46 AM > Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > > >> Folks, >> >> We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to the >> CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or DW >> id to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports >> 23 or 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are >> dedicated to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go >> to the APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL >> get to MADIS. >> >> There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the same >> server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more autonomy >> in the future. >> >> If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server >> destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been tuned to >> perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the >> full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* >> servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the long run. >> >> For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and >> aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the servers >> for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also am >> the culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I make >> most of the changes on them so that their sysops are not overburdened >> with additional tasks. >> >> We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS-IS >> Core sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate server >> pools and services, though, for some good technical reasons. >> >> Gerry >> -- >> Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas >> A&M University >> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 >> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or >> change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change > delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Sat Mar 1 13:34:30 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:34:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! Message-ID: Paul, I plan on sending a e-mail message with the pertinent information to all registered members of CWOP next week. However, there are a significant number of people who have changed their e-mail addresses and not notified me of the change. So, I don't know just how many people will get the word on what APRS servers to use. Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Grace Date: Saturday, March 1, 2008 6:55 pm Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > Couldn't this be automated? > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Jim Pace > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:41 > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > > Posting to this list, asking for uploads to be changed to the new > servers is > like preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I would venture that all > who follow > the postings in this list have already made the changes. It's the > 2000 some > uploaders who are apparently blissfully unaware of all the recent > happeningsthat need to get the message somehow. > Just now, I took a look at all the CWOP stations listed in the "Nearby > Weather Stations" list for my station. Of the 20 stations on the > list, 10 > have the CW id. Looking at the raw weather packets of them one by > one, I am > seeing only 3 of the 10 using the new server designation. Of those > 3 using > cwop.aprs.net, one is my station, another is the only other station > in my > little town who only made the switch after I emailed him to make > him aware > of the requested changes, and the last one must have been paying > attention.Perhaps all of us following this list should pull up > their "Nearby Weather > Stations" list, click on the CW/DW stations one by one and look to > see if > they are not posting to the cwop.aprs.net server designation. We > could find > their CWOP registered email address and attempt to send them a > carefullyworded request to make the change. > Jim, > CW0825 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Creager" > To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:46 AM > Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > > > > Folks, > > > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to > the > > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW > or DW > > id to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using > ports > > 23 or 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation > are > > dedicated to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will > not go > > to the APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and > WILL > > get to MADIS. > > > > There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the > same > > server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more > autonomy > > in the future. > > > > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your > server > > destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been > tuned to > > perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than > the > > full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* > > servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the > long run. > > > > For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and > > aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the > servers > > for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also > am > > the culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I > make > > most of the changes on them so that their sysops are not > overburdened > > with additional tasks. > > > > We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS- > IS > > Core sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate > server > > pools and services, though, for some good technical reasons. > > > > Gerry > > -- > > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, > Texas > > A&M University > > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX > 77843 > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or > > change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the > author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or > changedelivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From elinkkila at yahoo.com Sat Mar 1 14:25:46 2008 From: elinkkila at yahoo.com (Eleanor Linkkila) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:25:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back Message-ID: <888258.74474.qm@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I keep changing my setting to cwop.aprs.net 23 and it keeps reverting back to rotate.aprs.net 14850. Anything I can do besides keep changing it back. Thanks, Eleanor, CW7448 Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080301/b278b057/attachment.html From Weather at JaxWeather.net Sat Mar 1 14:49:48 2008 From: Weather at JaxWeather.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:49:48 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: <888258.74474.qm@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <888258.74474.qm@web56903.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Eleanor, That would be an issue with what you are using to send your reports and you should contact the Author or support folks for that application. -Bob On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Linkkila wrote: > I keep changing my setting to cwop.aprs.net 23 and it keeps reverting back > to rotate.aprs.net 14850. Anything I can do besides keep changing it back. > > Thanks, Eleanor, CW7448 -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net -- JaxFountain.com Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain http://JaxFountain.com -- WolfStalks Network Properties http://WolfStalks.com From elinkkila at yahoo.com Sat Mar 1 15:01:15 2008 From: elinkkila at yahoo.com (Eleanor Linkkila) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <102747.22885.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> It is VWS and it is pretty straightforward. Eleanor, CW7448 Bob Johnson wrote: Eleanor, That would be an issue with what you are using to send your reports and you should contact the Author or support folks for that application. -Bob On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Linkkila wrote: > I keep changing my setting to cwop.aprs.net 23 and it keeps reverting back > to rotate.aprs.net 14850. Anything I can do besides keep changing it back. > > Thanks, Eleanor, CW7448 -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net -- JaxFountain.com Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain http://JaxFountain.com -- WolfStalks Network Properties http://WolfStalks.com _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080301/283008b1/attachment.html From budr at netride.net Sat Mar 1 13:32:57 2008 From: budr at netride.net (Bud Rogers) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:32:57 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! In-Reply-To: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> References: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <200803011332.57930.budr@netride.net> On Saturday 01 March 2008 10:46, Gerry Creager wrote: > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your server > destination to cwop.aprs.net. ?The servers and code have been tuned > to perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than the > full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. ?These are *our* > servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the long > run. Gerry, I am a ham, callsign KD5SZ. I am totally new to CWOP, still learning the ropes. I've had a VP2 Pro up for about ten days now, submitting data over the internet using my ham call as the ID. As soon as I read about the server migration I changed to the new servers as well, assuming the issue was loading on the servers. Should I NOT be using the new CWOP-dedicated servers? -- Bud Rogers From unkajim at comcast.net Sat Mar 1 15:34:49 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:34:49 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re: rotate keep "rotating" back References: <102747.22885.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004801c87be4$14712b20$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Eleanor, Whatever you last did seems to have worked. Your last 15 or so posts have been going to the cwop servers as seen here: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/rawwx.cgi?call=CW7448 Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Linkkila" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back > It is VWS and it is pretty straightforward. > > Eleanor, CW7448 > > > Bob Johnson wrote: > Eleanor, > > That would be an issue with what you are using to send your reports > and you should contact the Author or support folks for that > application. > > -Bob > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Linkkila wrote: >> I keep changing my setting to cwop.aprs.net 23 and it keeps reverting >> back >> to rotate.aprs.net 14850. Anything I can do besides keep changing it >> back. >> >> Thanks, Eleanor, CW7448 > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > -- > JaxFountain.com > Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain > http://JaxFountain.com > -- > WolfStalks Network Properties > http://WolfStalks.com > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/CT/Hampton.html?bannertypeclick=big2"> > src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/big2_cond/language/www/US/CT/Hampton.gif" > border=0 alt="Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast" height=60 > width=468> > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From miketwotoo at yahoo.com Sat Mar 1 15:10:07 2008 From: miketwotoo at yahoo.com (Mike Pearce) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:10:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! In-Reply-To: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <29316.7793.qm@web56411.mail.re3.yahoo.com> --- Gerry Creager wrote: > Folks, > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to the > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW or DW id > to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using ports 23 or > 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation are dedicated > to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will not go to the > APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and WILL get to MADIS. [snip] Gerry, I posted your message to the WeatherTracker support forum. Hopefully, this will help move some folks. Mike (C7467) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jimwc at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 1 17:03:44 2008 From: jimwc at frontiernet.net (jim Crumly) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:03:44 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c87bf0$80467dd0$80d37970$@net> I sent a Email to all the CW stations in my nearby activity list. Perhaps a note on the QA page would help. Although not every one looks at there QA page either. I know it is drastic but When the CW #'s get turned off in the APRS-IS core servers they will surly get the message. Jim Crumly CW4367 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:35 PM To: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com; Discussion of weather data quality issues Cc: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! Paul, I plan on sending a e-mail message with the pertinent information to all registered members of CWOP next week. However, there are a significant number of people who have changed their e-mail addresses and not notified me of the change. So, I don't know just how many people will get the word on what APRS servers to use. Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Grace Date: Saturday, March 1, 2008 6:55 pm Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > Couldn't this be automated? > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Jim Pace > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 10:41 > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Server recommendations, Again! > > Posting to this list, asking for uploads to be changed to the new > servers is > like preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I would venture that all > who follow > the postings in this list have already made the changes. It's the > 2000 some > uploaders who are apparently blissfully unaware of all the recent > happeningsthat need to get the message somehow. > Just now, I took a look at all the CWOP stations listed in the "Nearby > Weather Stations" list for my station. Of the 20 stations on the > list, 10 > have the CW id. Looking at the raw weather packets of them one by > one, I am > seeing only 3 of the 10 using the new server designation. Of those > 3 using > cwop.aprs.net, one is my station, another is the only other station > in my > little town who only made the switch after I emailed him to make > him aware > of the requested changes, and the last one must have been paying > attention.Perhaps all of us following this list should pull up > their "Nearby Weather > Stations" list, click on the CW/DW stations one by one and look to > see if > they are not posting to the cwop.aprs.net server designation. We > could find > their CWOP registered email address and attempt to send them a > carefullyworded request to make the change. > Jim, > CW0825 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Creager" > To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 8:46 AM > Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server recommendations, Again! > > > > Folks, > > > > We're not seeing much traction in moving from the APRS servers to > the > > CWOP-dedicated servers. I want to encourage everyone with a CW > or DW > > id to change their server info to point to cwop.aprs.net using > ports > > 23 or 14580. The three servers in that round-robin DNS rotation > are > > dedicated to CWOP use, and CWOP CW/DW weather information will > not go > > to the APRS-IS core servers. It WILL be harvested by FindU and > WILL > > get to MADIS. > > > > There will be a new domain, cwopwx.org, that will also have the > same > > server addresses soon. This is an attempt to get CWOP more > autonomy > > in the future. > > > > If you're not an Amateur Radio operator, please change your > server > > destination to cwop.aprs.net. The servers and code have been > tuned to > > perform CWOP data aggregation and collection only, rather than > the > > full gamut of functions required on the APRS-IS. These are *our* > > servers and making a migration to them will help us all in the > long run. > > > > For what it's worth, I've got the CWOP1.tamu.edu (CWOP-1) and > > aprs.tamu.edu (first.aprs.net) servers as well as managing the > servers > > for firenet.us and the CWOP.tamu.edu aggregation server. I also > am > > the culprit if there are problems with CWOP-2 and CWOP-3, as I > make > > most of the changes on them so that their sysops are not > overburdened > > with additional tasks. > > > > We thank the Tier2 folks for their support, as well as the APRS- > IS > > Core sys ops. We need to make this transition to two separate > server > > pools and services, though, for some good technical reasons. > > > > Gerry > > -- > > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, > Texas > > A&M University > > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX > 77843 > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or > > change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the > author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or > changedelivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From elinkkila at yahoo.com Sat Mar 1 18:02:32 2008 From: elinkkila at yahoo.com (Eleanor Linkkila) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:02:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re: rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: <004801c87be4$14712b20$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Message-ID: <929158.33632.qm@web56901.mail.re3.yahoo.com> It will for quite sometime but then sometimes it just switches; can't think of any other place to fix it except for the configuration area of VWS so I guess I will just keep an eye on it very closely and switch it back if it decides it likes rotate better again. Thanks, Eleanor CW7448 Jim Pace wrote: Eleanor, Whatever you last did seems to have worked. Your last 15 or so posts have been going to the cwop servers as seen here: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/rawwx.cgi?call=CW7448 Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Linkkila" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back > It is VWS and it is pretty straightforward. > > Eleanor, CW7448 > > > Bob Johnson wrote: > Eleanor, > > That would be an issue with what you are using to send your reports > and you should contact the Author or support folks for that > application. > > -Bob > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Eleanor Linkkila wrote: >> I keep changing my setting to cwop.aprs.net 23 and it keeps reverting >> back >> to rotate.aprs.net 14850. Anything I can do besides keep changing it >> back. >> >> Thanks, Eleanor, CW7448 > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > -- > JaxFountain.com > Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain > http://JaxFountain.com > -- > WolfStalks Network Properties > http://WolfStalks.com > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > href="http://www.wunderground.com/US/CT/Hampton.html?bannertypeclick=big2"> > > src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/big2_cond/language/www/US/CT/Hampton.gif" > border=0 alt="Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast" height=60 > width=468> > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080302/1109d225/attachment.html From elinkkila at yahoo.com Sun Mar 2 05:46:41 2008 From: elinkkila at yahoo.com (Eleanor Linkkila) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:46:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: <001901c87c36$ad18a1d0$2a00a8c0@vaio> Message-ID: <61451.87224.qm@web56907.mail.re3.yahoo.com> My software is a little over one year old. When did the upgrade come out? Eleanor, CW7448 Dr Tim West wrote: Eleanor, You need to upgrade to the latest version of VWSaprs as this has altered which servers to use depending on your callsign etc as per the new requirements. Dr Tim West Meterologica Ltd _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080302/de4c8d5c/attachment.html From philip at gladstonefamily.net Sun Mar 2 08:28:30 2008 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:28:30 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Mass notices! In-Reply-To: <01fb01c87bd2$930758e0$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> References: <47C98877.7080705@tamu.edu><001c01c87bcb$c46e7550$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> <009701c87bcd$dfb6cb30$0200a8c0@dell1500> <01fb01c87bd2$930758e0$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> Message-ID: <47CAB98E.1030009@gladstonefamily.net> steveswww wrote: > Russ/Philip, > Everyone who signs up for CWOP does so with an email address. Is it > possible to automate this list for "mandatory" updates/notices? > It has come up before as a suggestion but I never saw anyone comment or > respond to it. > > What about a "Header" on the Quality reports that go out daily? > > Duh! As of tonight, there will be a warning in the daily email if you are using the core servers and you are not a ham operator. There are about 450 people in this category who have signed up for emails but have not switched over (yet). Thanks for the suggestion. Philip From unkajim at comcast.net Sun Mar 2 12:08:43 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:08:43 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? Message-ID: <001301c87c90$73dff0d0$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> In the early part of February, I modified my weather software to no longer add the client timestamp to the outgoing CWOP post since it seemed pointless to have it in there. In its place, I added an "!", then later the "=" and now back to the "!". Here's a recently sent string: CW0825>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:!4423.74N/12242.13W_067/002g004t050r000p028P000h67b10354JavaOWW 1.0 It looks like a consequence of this is that my station no longer shows in this list: http://www.wxqa.com/activecwd/C20080302.txt and February the 11th was the last time it is shown on the last packet sent list here: http://www.wxqa.com/lastpkt_reg.txt . The data shows normally on Findu and I continue to get quality feedback emails so it appears all is OK except for these two lists. Would the lack of the timestamp be the reason for omission from these two? Jim CW0825 From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Sun Mar 2 13:44:43 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:44:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? Message-ID: Hi Jim, You (and another CW person) are on this list, http://wxqa.com/expt/C20080302.txt At the top of each hour, I partition all the received packets into eight bins, depending on the symbol after the : :@ activecwd (CWxxxx with :@) :@ activedwd (DWxxxx with :@) :@ activeham (all other with :@) :$ dollar :_ unders := equal :! expt else other Only the first 5 have an index of the past ten days, but all eight have at least the past ten days on the wxqa.com web site. I will look into getting the CW packets that aren't :@ back into the last packet heard list. Sounds easy, but I have learned that things that sound easy aren't necessarily so! Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Pace Date: Sunday, March 2, 2008 6:08 pm Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? > In the early part of February, I modified my weather software to no > longer > add the client timestamp to the outgoing CWOP post since it seemed > pointless > to have it in there. In its place, I added an "!", then later the > "=" and > now back to the "!". Here's a recently sent string: > CW0825>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP- > 3:!4423.74N/12242.13W_067/002g004t050r000p028P000h67b10354JavaOWW > 1.0 > > It looks like a consequence of this is that my station no longer > shows in > this list: http://www.wxqa.com/activecwd/C20080302.txt and February > the 11th > was the last time it is shown on the last packet sent list here: > http://www.wxqa.com/lastpkt_reg.txt . > > The data shows normally on Findu and I continue to get quality > feedback > emails so it appears all is OK except for these two lists. Would > the lack of > the timestamp be the reason for omission from these two? > > Jim CW0825 > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Sun Mar 2 14:15:36 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? Message-ID: Jim, After I sent the message below, I remembered that some of the names on the web site are different than here at home. So, in the message below, replace activeham with "callsminmax" and replace dollar with "peetbros". Those are earlier directory names that I have not bothered to change. Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Date: Sunday, March 2, 2008 7:44 pm Subject: Re: [wxqc] What's the significance? > Hi Jim, > > You (and another CW person) are on this list, > > http://wxqa.com/expt/C20080302.txt > > At the top of each hour, I partition all the received packets into > eightbins, depending on the symbol after the : > > :@ activecwd (CWxxxx with :@) > :@ activedwd (DWxxxx with :@) > :@ activeham (all other with :@) > :$ dollar > :_ unders > := equal > :! expt > else other > > Only the first 5 have an index of the past ten days, but all eight > haveat least the past ten days on the wxqa.com web site. I will > look into > getting the CW packets that aren't :@ back into the last packet heard > list. Sounds easy, but I have learned that things that sound easy > aren't necessarily so! > > Russ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Pace > Date: Sunday, March 2, 2008 6:08 pm > Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? > > > In the early part of February, I modified my weather software to > no > > longer > > add the client timestamp to the outgoing CWOP post since it > seemed > > pointless > > to have it in there. In its place, I added an "!", then later the > > "=" and > > now back to the "!". Here's a recently sent string: > > CW0825>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP- > > 3:!4423.74N/12242.13W_067/002g004t050r000p028P000h67b10354JavaOWW > > 1.0 > > > > It looks like a consequence of this is that my station no longer > > shows in > > this list: http://www.wxqa.com/activecwd/C20080302.txt and > February > > the 11th > > was the last time it is shown on the last packet sent list here: > > http://www.wxqa.com/lastpkt_reg.txt . > > > > The data shows normally on Findu and I continue to get quality > > feedback > > emails so it appears all is OK except for these two lists. Would > > the lack of > > the timestamp be the reason for omission from these two? > > > > Jim CW0825 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From cwop at meteorologica.co.uk Sun Mar 2 14:30:59 2008 From: cwop at meteorologica.co.uk (Dr Tim West) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:30:59 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back Message-ID: <002e01c87ca4$54d11b10$2a00a8c0@vaio> Eleanor, VWSaprs has been udated twice in the last 12 months! Update details are always posted on the Ambient support forum. Dr Tim West Meteorologica Ltd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080302/82775810/attachment.html From edith.thornburg at verizon.net Sun Mar 2 14:48:13 2008 From: edith.thornburg at verizon.net (Edith) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:48:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: [wxqc] (no subject) Message-ID: <4527213.750041204490894068.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> I haven't been paying much attention as both my computer and weather station were down for the count. I finally have a new computer and the station is back from Davis (what they do for just $80!!). Sooooo, I will be starting from scratch. I'd like to get everything right the first time this time (see next set of questions). First, I'm not sure which software I will be using, probably weatherlink, as that is what I am used to, and I already have it, unless someone can suggest a better freeware one? As I am setting it up, keeping in mind I also want to upload to Weather Underground, does anyone have helpful hints/suggestions? Second, where do I do all this tweaking for CWOP? Third, before I started the first time, we installed a flagpole next to our house (see photos at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/ ). I then made the mistake of putting everything on the top of the pole. This time, I'll put the anemometer at the top, but I am worried if I put the rain gauge lower down that the garage will affect it. My DH does not want to relocate the flagpole - MY first thought, but shot down quickly. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for this one? THANKS in advance! Edith who doesn't remember any of the setup she went through when she first started all this a year and a half ago... From elinkkila at yahoo.com Sun Mar 2 15:12:57 2008 From: elinkkila at yahoo.com (Eleanor Linkkila) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:12:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: <002e01c87ca4$54d11b10$2a00a8c0@vaio> Message-ID: <852743.55220.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thank you; guess I haven't spent enough time on the Ambient support forum. Will check it out. Eleanor, CW7448 Dr Tim West wrote: Eleanor, VWSaprs has been udated twice in the last 12 months! Update details are always posted on the Ambient support forum. Dr Tim West Meteorologica Ltd _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. Click for Hampton, Connecticut Forecast --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080302/197eda47/attachment.html From steve at steveswww.com Sun Mar 2 21:31:00 2008 From: steve at steveswww.com (steveswww) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:31:00 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] server responses Message-ID: <003501c87cdf$009d9e20$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> Russ, I received my QC report tonight and as discussed, you are sending WARNINGS! to those who have not switched to the new server name. As I reviewed the suggested server information, it brought a question to mind. My Weather Display software is configured to "cwop.aprs.net" on port 14580 however, my ftp log shows the response from the server as connected to "rotate.aprs.net". If this is a normal response, please advise. I can't be the only one sending correctly and seeing that response. 1. Should this be added to the info at the link http://www.wxqa.com/servers2use.html provided for our help? 2. What server names should I use as "alternates"? Thanks again, Steve Fehlhaber - CW4759 Monroe, UT. www.steveswww.com/utah.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080302/74496aff/attachment.html From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Mon Mar 3 00:26:24 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:26:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] server responses Message-ID: Steve, No, that is not what I would expect. That indicates that you are sending to the core servers. I checked and that is true, for the past 24 hours, you have been sending exclusively to the core servers. I will add a part on the servers2use page about how to check which servers you are using. For alternates, you should use cwop-1, cwop-2 or cwop-3. Russ -------------- next part -------------- Russ, I received my QC report tonight and as discussed, you are sending WARNINGS! to those who have not switched to the new server name. As I reviewed the suggested server information, it brought a question to mind. My Weather Display software is configured to "cwop.aprs.net" on port 14580 however, my ftp log shows the response from the server as connected to "rotate.aprs.net". If this is a normal response, please advise. I can't be the only one sending correctly and seeing that response. 1. Should this be added to the info at the link http://www.wxqa.com/servers2use.html provided for our help? 2. What server names should I use as "alternates"? Thanks again, Steve Fehlhaber - CW4759 Monroe, UT. www.steveswww.com/utah.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/1fcb3b73/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Mon Mar 3 06:46:51 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:46:51 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] server responses In-Reply-To: <003501c87cdf$009d9e20$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> References: <003501c87cdf$009d9e20$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> Message-ID: <47CBF33B.5080706@tamu.edu> Someone recently said they were using cwop.aprs.net:14580 as a primary and cwop.aprs.net:23 as an alternate. Barring a full fledged DNS failure, where all your DNS servers go down, you should be fine with a round-robin DNS entry. At least, that's the way round-robin was intended to work. Discrete server entries should not be needed with this scheme: They were much more important when we did not have a rotation scheme. gerry steveswww wrote: > > > Russ, > I received my QC report tonight and as discussed, you are sending > WARNINGS! to those who have not switched to the new server name. > As I reviewed the suggested server information, it brought a question to > mind. > My Weather Display software is configured to "cwop.aprs.net" on port > 14580 however, my ftp log shows the response from the server as > connected to "rotate.aprs.net". If this is a normal response, please > advise. > I can't be the only one sending correctly and seeing that response. > > 1. Should this be added to the info at the link > http://www.wxqa.com/servers2use.html provided for our help? > 2. What server names should I use as "alternates"? > > > Thanks again, > > Steve Fehlhaber - CW4759 > Monroe, UT. > www.steveswww.com/utah.htm > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From steve at steveswww.com Mon Mar 3 08:44:12 2008 From: steve at steveswww.com (steveswww) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:44:12 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] server response Message-ID: <015b01c87d3d$0c244600$0200a8c0@SCLAPTOP> Ok, I updated the WD software and now my server response is corrected. My CWOP config page in WD did not change in appearance. Will leave the rest to Brian. Thanks for your help. Who knew? Regards, steve Steve Fehlhaber - CW4759 Monroe, UT. 435-893-1957 www.steveswww.com/utah.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/c3db76d1/attachment.html From joh69 at earthlink.net Mon Mar 3 09:29:01 2008 From: joh69 at earthlink.net (Hanford R Wright) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:29:01 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back In-Reply-To: <001901c87c36$ad18a1d0$2a00a8c0@vaio> Message-ID: Tim Is there a new version out????? Where can I find it????? Best Regards Hanford R Wright WA4LZC joh69 at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Dr Tim West Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 02:26 To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: Re: [wxqc] rotate keep "rotating" back Eleanor, You need to upgrade to the latest version of VWSaprs as this has altered which servers to use depending on your callsign etc as per the new requirements. Dr Tim West Meterologica Ltd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/8dde547a/attachment-0001.html From weather at gramercypolice.com Mon Mar 3 10:50:19 2008 From: weather at gramercypolice.com (Sgt. J. Ordeneaux Gramercy PD Weather) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:50:19 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word Message-ID: <47CC2C4B.2040104@gramercypolice.com> I would suggest (for what its worth), to all who read this list, to send an email to all fellow CW #### and DW#### stations in your state, just advising them of the server change. their respective email address should be listed at http://www.wxqa.com/stations.html. I realize some of you live in large states, so maybe just try reaching "nearby stations. My guess is, if everybody attempts to spread the word, it will make it easier on the head guys who really run CWOP, we all know that Russ, Philip, and the others are already jammed with work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sgt. Jody T. Ordeneaux Jr. # 704 Gramercy Police Department 111 East Main Street ~ P.O. Box 1514 Gramercy, Louisiana 70052 Ph. (225) 869-8005 Fx. (225) 869-9932 www.gramercypolice.com email jordeneaux at gramercypolice.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/28317107/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 11:03:00 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:03:00 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word In-Reply-To: <47CC2C4B.2040104@gramercypolice.com> References: <47CC2C4B.2040104@gramercypolice.com> Message-ID: I don't think that's a good idea. It seems to me that if those emails are already in a database, those responsible for the change should initiate a mailing using the database as source. I certainly would be more inclined to pay attention to an email coming from the horse's mouth than second hand. Besides, if everyone does this, we'll be getting tons of duplicate email from others in our state. Victor On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sgt. J. Ordeneaux Gramercy PD Weather wrote: > > I would suggest (for what its worth), to all who read this list, to send an > email to all fellow CW #### and DW#### stations in your state, just advising > them of the server change. their respective email address should be listed > at http://www.wxqa.com/stations.html. I realize some of you live in large > states, so maybe just try reaching "nearby stations. My guess is, if > everybody attempts to spread the word, it will make it easier on the head > guys who really run CWOP, we all know that Russ, Philip, and the others are > already jammed with work. > ________________________________ > > Sgt. Jody T. Ordeneaux Jr. # 704 > Gramercy Police Department > 111 East Main Street ~ P.O. Box 1514 > Gramercy, Louisiana 70052 > Ph. (225) 869-8005 > Fx. (225) 869-9932 > www.gramercypolice.com > email jordeneaux at gramercypolice.com > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From dick at kb7zva.com Mon Mar 3 12:37:04 2008 From: dick at kb7zva.com (dick at kb7zva.com) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:37:04 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word Message-ID: <20080303183704.5A6519EE26@ws6-2.us4.outblaze.com> I don't think that's a good idea. It seems to me that if those emails are already in a database, those responsible for the change should initiate a mailing using the database as source. I certainly would be more inclined to pay attention to an email coming from the horse's mouth than second hand. Besides, if everyone does this, we'll be getting tons of duplicate email from others in our state. Victor Which horse's mouth? E-mail redundancy might be a good idea because very soon there won't be a place for them to connect and that would be a terrible loss. This is an attempt to keep the program end-users informed as much as we can. Your leadership has it's hands full and so do a few of us hams that are helping with the transition. It's your gig and we are trying hard to make things work. A task that one or two people can't possibly handle entirely by themselves. I personally have contacted a few CW's and frankly, I wish I had time to contact more. We need your help! Dick Stanich, KB7ZVA APRSWest - Tier 2 Network http://www.aprs2.net From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Mon Mar 3 13:00:34 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russ Chadwick) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:00:34 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00c701c87d60$dc4f3510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> Victor, The current recommendations are in the "APRS Servers to Use" link at the upper right of most of the CWOP web site pages. I am working right now on preparing an e-mail and the associated address list for a mass mailing later this afternoon. However, easier to say than to do. Russ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:03 AM To: weather at gramercypolice.com; Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word I don't think that's a good idea. It seems to me that if those emails are already in a database, those responsible for the change should initiate a mailing using the database as source. I certainly would be more inclined to pay attention to an email coming from the horse's mouth than second hand. Besides, if everyone does this, we'll be getting tons of duplicate email from others in our state. Victor On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Sgt. J. Ordeneaux Gramercy PD Weather wrote: > > I would suggest (for what its worth), to all who read this list, to send an > email to all fellow CW #### and DW#### stations in your state, just advising > them of the server change. their respective email address should be listed > at http://www.wxqa.com/stations.html. I realize some of you live in large > states, so maybe just try reaching "nearby stations. My guess is, if > everybody attempts to spread the word, it will make it easier on the head > guys who really run CWOP, we all know that Russ, Philip, and the others are > already jammed with work. > ________________________________ > > Sgt. Jody T. Ordeneaux Jr. # 704 > Gramercy Police Department > 111 East Main Street ~ P.O. Box 1514 > Gramercy, Louisiana 70052 > Ph. (225) 869-8005 > Fx. (225) 869-9932 > www.gramercypolice.com > email jordeneaux at gramercypolice.com > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From greghol at surewest.net Mon Mar 3 13:13:31 2008 From: greghol at surewest.net (Greg Holdren) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:13:31 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word In-Reply-To: <00c701c87d60$dc4f3510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> References: <00c701c87d60$dc4f3510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> Message-ID: <47CC4DDB.9090209@surewest.net> Is there a way to detect that the posting CW/DW stations are not using the cwop-x servers and put red text at the top of each of these stations page? I remember something similar after the last recommended station change over awhile back. Greg Holdren CW0443 Russ Chadwick wrote: > Victor, > > The current recommendations are in the "APRS Servers to Use" link at the > upper right of most of the CWOP web site pages. I am working right now on > preparing an e-mail and the associated address list for a mass mailing later > this afternoon. However, easier to say than to do. > > Russ From unkajim at comcast.net Mon Mar 3 13:32:56 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:32:56 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re: cwop.aprs.net - spread the word References: <00c701c87d60$dc4f3510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> <47CC4DDB.9090209@surewest.net> Message-ID: <005001c87d65$624be8d0$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> I think the problem is that almost none of these stragglers are looking at any of these pages or quality feedback emails, etc. I bet that were they cut off from posting to the core, they wouldn't even notice that their data isn't going anywhere anymore. It'll be interesting to see how well the mass email works. I will be checking the 7 core posters on my nearby list to see if any comply. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Holdren" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word > > Is there a way to detect that the posting CW/DW stations are not using > the cwop-x servers and put red text at the top of each of these stations > page? I remember something similar after the last recommended station > change over awhile back. > > > Greg Holdren > CW0443 > > > Russ Chadwick wrote: >> Victor, >> >> The current recommendations are in the "APRS Servers to Use" link at the >> upper right of most of the CWOP web site pages. I am working right now >> on >> preparing an e-mail and the associated address list for a mass mailing >> later >> this afternoon. However, easier to say than to do. >> >> Russ > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From Karl.Uppiano at verizon.net Mon Mar 3 14:35:18 2008 From: Karl.Uppiano at verizon.net (Karl Uppiano) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:35:18 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re: cwop.aprs.net - spread the word In-Reply-To: <005001c87d65$624be8d0$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> References: <00c701c87d60$dc4f3510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> <47CC4DDB.9090209@surewest.net> <005001c87d65$624be8d0$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Message-ID: Perhaps the core servers themselves should return an error message if the post contains an unsupported callsign. Then the stragglers would get the message. I have posted on this subject before, but if the servers would always return a recognizable "success" message if there is no error, it would be much easier for client software to detect anything that was not success, and take corrective action, or at least log the error. Regards, Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Pace" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Re: cwop.aprs.net - spread the word >I think the problem is that almost none of these stragglers are looking at > any of these pages or quality feedback emails, etc. I bet that were they > cut off from posting to the core, they wouldn't even notice that their > data > isn't going anywhere anymore. It'll be interesting to see how well the > mass > email works. I will be checking the 7 core posters on my nearby list to > see > if any comply. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Holdren" > To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:13 AM > Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] cwop.aprs.net - spread the word > > >> >> Is there a way to detect that the posting CW/DW stations are not using >> the cwop-x servers and put red text at the top of each of these stations >> page? I remember something similar after the last recommended station >> change over awhile back. >> >> >> Greg Holdren >> CW0443 >> >> >> Russ Chadwick wrote: >>> Victor, >>> >>> The current recommendations are in the "APRS Servers to Use" link at the >>> upper right of most of the CWOP web site pages. I am working right now >>> on >>> preparing an e-mail and the associated address list for a mass mailing >>> later >>> this afternoon. However, easier to say than to do. >>> >>> Russ >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Mon Mar 3 15:57:06 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russ Chadwick) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:57:06 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway Message-ID: <00e301c87d79$88af6510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> There are currently 6437 registered CWOP members and there are e-mail addresses for 6305 of them. An e-mail to each of those addresses giving information on changing to different servers will be sent out during the next hour or so. Russ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/ab26967c/attachment-0001.html From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Mon Mar 3 16:37:57 2008 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russ Chadwick) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:37:57 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway In-Reply-To: <00e301c87d79$88af6510$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> Message-ID: <00ee01c87d7f$3a5cfbb0$c76e4b89@esrl.pri> Correction - It will take 14 hours to send all of the e-mails. Russ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Russ Chadwick Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:57 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway There are currently 6437 registered CWOP members and there are e-mail addresses for 6305 of them. An e-mail to each of those addresses giving information on changing to different servers will be sent out during the next hour or so. Russ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/4ad8816b/attachment.html From amsoiltek at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 16:59:59 2008 From: amsoiltek at gmail.com (Rory) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:59:59 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] HoneyWell Input Message-ID: Hello gang, Been lurking for about a year and want to get into the weather game. What are the pros and cons of any of the Honeywell products? I know Davis is the norm and I might still go that route if. Thanks for you time. Rory Phelan, Ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/76be5830/attachment.html From edith.thornburg at verizon.net Mon Mar 3 17:12:33 2008 From: edith.thornburg at verizon.net (Edith) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:12:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [wxqc] starting again Message-ID: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> I haven't been paying much attention as both my computer and weather station were down for the count. I finally have a new computer and the station is back from Davis (what they do for just $80!!). Sooooo, I will be starting from scratch. I'd like to get everything right the first time this time (see next set of questions). First, I'm not sure which software I will be using, probably weatherlink, as that is what I am used to, and I already have it, unless someone can suggest a better freeware one? As I am setting it up, keeping in mind I also want to upload to Weather Underground, does anyone have helpful hints/suggestions? Second, where do I do all this tweaking for CWOP? Third, before I started the first time, we installed a flagpole next to our house (see photos at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/ ). I then made the mistake of putting everything on the top of the pole. This time, I'll put the anemometer at the top, but I am worried if I put the rain gauge lower down that the garage will affect it. My DH does not want to relocate the flagpole - MY first thought, but shot down quickly. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for this one? THANKS in advance! Edith who doesn't remember any of the setup she went through when she first started all this a year and a half ago... From DeerTrail131 at aol.com Mon Mar 3 17:00:50 2008 From: DeerTrail131 at aol.com (DeerTrail131 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:00:50 EST Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway Message-ID: Russ: A lot of work, as I have seen all the email from the group {wzqc} in the last few months. You are doing a great job! Hope to see you in Deer Trail this Spring? And we can get the weather station up for the Deer Trail School, as they are almost done with the roof. Thanks. Hello Bud.........K0GS Ron wd0bdq In a message dated 3/3/2008 3:46:50 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov writes: Correction ? It will take 14 hours to send all of the e-mails. Russ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Russ Chadwick Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:57 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway There are currently 6437 registered CWOP members and there are e-mail addresses for 6305 of them. An e-mail to each of those addresses giving information on changing to different servers will be sent out during the next hour or so. Russ _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. 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URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/10c95afe/attachment.html From deadeye916 at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 18:04:28 2008 From: deadeye916 at gmail.com (Dan Crooks) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:04:28 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Hi Edith, You might want to consider mounting the solar/uv sensors up there with the anemometer. Just a thought... Dan On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Edith wrote: > I haven't been paying much attention as both my computer and weather > station were down for the count. > I finally have a new computer and the station is back from Davis (what > they do for just $80!!). > Sooooo, I will be starting from scratch. I'd like to get everything right > the first time this time (see next set of questions). > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080303/979d21a5/attachment.html From mroffall at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 06:54:53 2008 From: mroffall at gmail.com (Michael Roffall) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:54:53 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> I would be more worried about the rain shadow created by the flagpole than the garage. If your rain collector is mounted down low on the pole and the wind is blowing from the direction of the pole, the pole itself will block a significant amount of the precipitation that would otherwise have gone into the bucket. Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. Mike Roffall CW9236 On 3/3/08, Edith wrote: > > I haven't been paying much attention as both my computer and weather > station were down for the count. > I finally have a new computer and the station is back from Davis (what > they do for just $80!!). > Sooooo, I will be starting from scratch. I'd like to get everything right > the first time this time (see next set of questions). > > First, I'm not sure which software I will be using, probably weatherlink, > as that is what I am used to, and I already have it, unless someone can > suggest a better freeware one? > As I am setting it up, keeping in mind I also want to upload to Weather > Underground, does anyone have helpful hints/suggestions? > > Second, where do I do all this tweaking for CWOP? > > Third, before I started the first time, we installed a flagpole next to > our house (see photos at > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/ ). I then made the > mistake of putting everything on the top of the pole. This time, I'll put > the anemometer at the top, but I am worried if I put the rain gauge lower > down that the garage will affect it. My DH does not want to relocate the > flagpole - MY first thought, but shot down quickly. Anyone have any > thoughts/suggestions for this one? > THANKS in advance! > > Edith > who doesn't remember any of the setup she went through when she first > started all this a year and a half ago... > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080305/d91820a8/attachment-0001.html From cmowen at att.net Wed Mar 5 09:08:31 2008 From: cmowen at att.net (cmowen at att.net) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:08:31 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] starting again Message-ID: <030520081508.12559.47CEB76F000077B00000310F22216128369B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net> IMHO, As long as your sensor package is on the due south side of the pole, no shadow should cross your UV/solar sensors in North Hemi at the lowest angles meaningful information will be recorded. Rain bucket is a small problem near the pole, but if you can offset it from the pole with a standoff, it should be minimal. -------------- Original message from "Michael Roffall" : -------------- I would be more worried about the rain shadow created by the flagpole than the garage. If your rain collector is mounted down low on the pole and the wind is blowing from the direction of the pole, the pole itself will block a significant amount of the precipitation that would otherwise have gone into the bucket. Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. Mike Roffall CW9236 On 3/3/08, Edith wrote: I haven't been paying much attention as both my computer and weather station were down for the count. I finally have a new computer and the station is back from Davis (what they do for just $80!!). Sooooo, I will be starting from scratch. I'd like to get everything right the first time this time (see next set of questions). First, I'm not sure which software I will be using, probably weatherlink, as that is what I am used to, and I already have it, unless someone can suggest a better freeware one? As I am setting it up, keeping in mind I also want to upload to Weather Underground, does anyone have helpful hints/suggestions? Second, where do I do all this tweaking for CWOP? Third, before I started the first time, we installed a flagpole next to our house (see photos at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/ ). I then made the mistake of putting everything on the top of the pole. This time, I'll put the anemometer at the top, but I am worried if I put the rain gauge lower down that the garage will affect it. My DH does not want to relocate the flagpole - MY first thought, but shot down quickly. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for this one? THANKS in advance! Edith who doesn't remember any of the setup she went through when she first started all this a year and a half ago... _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080305/4bd213a8/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 09:24:45 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:24:45 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Michael Roffall wrote: > Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV > sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that > without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to > separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't done any experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If using a wireless system, the transmitter that the anemometer uses has extra plugs for other equipment. It seems to me the radiation and UV sensors could be plugged in there. I'd love it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't tried it. If anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it would work, let me know. Victor CW6155 From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Wed Mar 5 11:58:27 2008 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:58:27 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of > Victor Engel > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:25 AM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again > > > I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't > done any experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If > using a wireless system, the transmitter that the anemometer > uses has extra plugs for other equipment. It seems to me the > radiation and UV sensors could be plugged in there. I'd love > it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't tried it. If > anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it > would work, let me know. > The reports I've seen from those who have tried, is that it doesn't work, unless you configure the anemometer transmitter as an ISS at the console. But that defeats the purpose. It's only because of firmware because the transmitters for all stations is the same part. Do like I've done and make the suggestion to Davis that this would be a desirable option. Maybe if it's suggested enough, they'll make it possible. Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250 From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 12:03:13 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:03:13 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Keith Miller wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of > > Victor Engel > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:25 AM > > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > > Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again > > > > > > > I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't > > done any experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If > > using a wireless system, the transmitter that the anemometer > > uses has extra plugs for other equipment. It seems to me the > > radiation and UV sensors could be plugged in there. I'd love > > it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't tried it. If > > anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it > > would work, let me know. > > > > The reports I've seen from those who have tried, is that it > doesn't work, unless you configure the anemometer transmitter > as an ISS at the console. But that defeats the purpose. It's > only because of firmware because the transmitters for all > stations is the same part. Do like I've done and make the > suggestion to Davis that this would be a desirable option. > Maybe if it's suggested enough, they'll make it possible. > > So if I'm following, you'd then have two ISS's, which would be possible if each were on its own channel. Correct? From zalmor64 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 15:40:20 2008 From: zalmor64 at gmail.com (Michael Andrews) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:40:20 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CF1344.5020409@gmail.com> The Solar/UV/Wind gauges on a VP2 wireless (not sure about the non-wireless version) can be lengthened with the Davis extension cables. I've done this here mounting my Solar/UV/Wind gauges on top of a 30' pole, and while the ISS is about 8' from the ground. All working from the ISS unit w/o using an extra channel. Victor Engel wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Michael Roffall wrote: > >> Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV >> sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that >> without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to >> separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. >> > > I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't done any > experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If using a wireless > system, the transmitter that the anemometer uses has extra plugs for > other equipment. It seems to me the radiation and UV sensors could be > plugged in there. I'd love it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't > tried it. If anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it > would work, let me know. > > Victor > CW6155 > -- My Icon Michael Andrews Current weather conditions in South Erin, NY Erin Forum Online Arcade Bailey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080305/80ae9691/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Zalmor.gif Type: image/gif Size: 4684 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080305/80ae9691/attachment-0001.gif From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 15:53:45 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:53:45 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <47CF1344.5020409@gmail.com> References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> <47CF1344.5020409@gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess that could work, but it wouldn't in my case. Those cables are 40 feet long, right? My anemometer is at 40' and the ISS at 6' or 7'. That's a difference of 33', but the anemometer is mounted on a pole on the peak of my roof, and the ISS is in the middle of the backyard (about 30 feet horizontally, I think), so the cable wouldn't be long enough. But I suppose I could put the sensors in a third location. It just seems so obvious, though, that they should go just above the anemometer. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Andrews wrote: > > The Solar/UV/Wind gauges on a VP2 wireless (not sure about the > non-wireless version) can be lengthened with the Davis extension cables. > I've done this here mounting my Solar/UV/Wind gauges on top of a 30' pole, > and while the ISS is about 8' from the ground. All working from the ISS > unit w/o using an extra channel. > > > > Victor Engel wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Michael Roffall wrote: > > > Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV > sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that > without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to > separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. > > I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't done any > experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If using a wireless > system, the transmitter that the anemometer uses has extra plugs for > other equipment. It seems to me the radiation and UV sensors could be > plugged in there. I'd love it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't > tried it. If anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it > would work, let me know. > > Victor > CW6155 > > > > -- > > > > > Michael Andrews Erin Forum > Online Arcade > Bailey > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From garbal54 at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 16:34:55 2008 From: garbal54 at gmail.com (Gary B) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:34:55 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] starting again References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net><601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com><47CF1344.5020409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008501c87f11$23bc6560$d951de18@home4thow111j8> You can get/make much longer cables for the Davis instruments. An associate of mine has a cable 125 feet long between his model 6152 anemometer and his rainbucket/thermometer assembly. Regards Gary Balcom (CW8232) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Engel" To: ; "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again >I guess that could work, but it wouldn't in my case. Those cables are > 40 feet long, right? My anemometer is at 40' and the ISS at 6' or 7'. > That's a difference of 33', but the anemometer is mounted on a pole on > the peak of my roof, and the ISS is in the middle of the backyard > (about 30 feet horizontally, I think), so the cable wouldn't be long > enough. But I suppose I could put the sensors in a third location. It > just seems so obvious, though, that they should go just above the > anemometer. > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Andrews > wrote: >> >> The Solar/UV/Wind gauges on a VP2 wireless (not sure about the >> non-wireless version) can be lengthened with the Davis extension cables. >> I've done this here mounting my Solar/UV/Wind gauges on top of a 30' >> pole, >> and while the ISS is about 8' from the ground. All working from the ISS >> unit w/o using an extra channel. >> >> >> >> Victor Engel wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Michael Roffall >> wrote: >> >> >> Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV >> sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that >> without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to >> separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. >> >> I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't done any >> experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If using a wireless >> system, the transmitter that the anemometer uses has extra plugs for >> other equipment. It seems to me the radiation and UV sensors could be >> plugged in there. I'd love it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't >> tried it. If anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it >> would work, let me know. >> >> Victor >> CW6155 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Michael Andrews Erin Forum >> Online Arcade >> Bailey >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 16:40:04 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:40:04 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <008501c87f11$23bc6560$d951de18@home4thow111j8> References: <18255367.1206451204585953108.JavaMail.root@vms069.mailsrvcs.net> <601554e80803050454n20faa8cdm683d0b0f07121a7f@mail.gmail.com> <47CF1344.5020409@gmail.com> <008501c87f11$23bc6560$d951de18@home4thow111j8> Message-ID: OK. I thought there was some reason to not go over 40'. I guess I was mistaken. Still, it seems absurd to have 100 foot cables on a wireless piece of equipment. Victor Engel (CW6155) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Gary B wrote: > You can get/make much longer cables for the Davis instruments. An associate > of mine has a cable 125 feet long between his model 6152 anemometer and his > rainbucket/thermometer assembly. > Regards > Gary Balcom (CW8232) > From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 17:50:16 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:50:16 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Storm Glass Message-ID: Anyone here have or use a storm glass? Are they of any use at all? Victor From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Wed Mar 5 18:46:29 2008 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:46:29 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <49F62FD265DF4D8D937FCE43A25378EA@sauron> > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of > Victor Engel > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:03 PM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again > > > So if I'm following, you'd then have two ISS's, which would be > possible if each were on its own channel. Correct? > The console/envoy won't allow you to configure it for 2 ISS's. All I was trying point out there is that the transmitters are identical, the only thing making it impractical to use solar/UV sensors with an anenometer transmitter is the console firmware. Of the two things I wish the VP2 system could do, connecting the solar/UV to a anenometer transmitter is #1. Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250 From chieftwidget at cableone.net Wed Mar 5 18:19:47 2008 From: chieftwidget at cableone.net (George S. Husted) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:19:47 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Storm Glass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <249C3BDE16564EC7BD48B4A940F270D5@GeorgePC> I have one, and enjoy watching it. However a storm glass has no empirical value as each one is different and the readings are different in accordance with how much air is trapped inside the glass. I suppose you could calibrate it with your barometer and a grease pencil, but it will change over time as the water will slowly evaporate. However when the water is all the way at the top of the spout it sure is an indication to go check your barometer and look at the local weather radar, not to mention its value as an interesting conversation piece. George -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:50 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] Storm Glass Anyone here have or use a storm glass? Are they of any use at all? Victor _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From brillig at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 20:32:16 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:16 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Storm Glass In-Reply-To: <249C3BDE16564EC7BD48B4A940F270D5@GeorgePC> References: <249C3BDE16564EC7BD48B4A940F270D5@GeorgePC> Message-ID: Sorry. I meant the other type of storm glass, with various chemicals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_glass Victor On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM, George S. Husted wrote: > I have one, and enjoy watching it. However a storm glass has no empirical > value as each one is different and the readings are different in accordance > with how much air is trapped inside the glass. I suppose you could > calibrate it with your barometer and a grease pencil, but it will change > over time as the water will slowly evaporate. However when the water is all > the way at the top of the spout it sure is an indication to go check your > barometer and look at the local weather radar, not to mention its value as > an interesting conversation piece. > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:50 PM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: [wxqc] Storm Glass > > Anyone here have or use a storm glass? Are they of any use at all? > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From Weather at pdfamily.com Wed Mar 5 20:57:27 2008 From: Weather at pdfamily.com (Milford Weather) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:57:27 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <008501c87f11$23bc6560$d951de18@home4thow111j8> Message-ID: <200803060257.m262vRA28529@plus41.host4u.net> I also have extended my UV and Solar about 150' in order to get good exposure and to leave my ISS in its best location. I used cat 5 cable and ran it about a year ago without issue. FYI, you can only have one ISS. Paul CW3414 SkyWarn Spotter http:/www.PDfamily.com/weather -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Gary B Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:35 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again You can get/make much longer cables for the Davis instruments. An associate of mine has a cable 125 feet long between his model 6152 anemometer and his rainbucket/thermometer assembly. Regards Gary Balcom (CW8232) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Engel" To: ; "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again >I guess that could work, but it wouldn't in my case. Those cables are > 40 feet long, right? My anemometer is at 40' and the ISS at 6' or 7'. > That's a difference of 33', but the anemometer is mounted on a pole on > the peak of my roof, and the ISS is in the middle of the backyard > (about 30 feet horizontally, I think), so the cable wouldn't be long > enough. But I suppose I could put the sensors in a third location. It > just seems so obvious, though, that they should go just above the > anemometer. > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Michael Andrews > wrote: >> >> The Solar/UV/Wind gauges on a VP2 wireless (not sure about the >> non-wireless version) can be lengthened with the Davis extension cables. >> I've done this here mounting my Solar/UV/Wind gauges on top of a 30' >> pole, >> and while the ISS is about 8' from the ground. All working from the ISS >> unit w/o using an extra channel. >> >> >> >> Victor Engel wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Michael Roffall >> wrote: >> >> >> Regarding someones suggestion that you mount the solar radiation and UV >> sensors on top of the pole - well, I don't know how you could do that >> without placing the entire sensor suite up there. It's not feasable to >> separate them from the sensor suite by that distance. >> >> I had a question about this some time before, but I haven't done any >> experimentation, so I don't know the answer. If using a wireless >> system, the transmitter that the anemometer uses has extra plugs for >> other equipment. It seems to me the radiation and UV sensors could be >> plugged in there. I'd love it if this worked, but as I said, I haven't >> tried it. If anyone has tried it or knows for sure whether or not it >> would work, let me know. >> >> Victor >> CW6155 >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Michael Andrews Erin Forum >> Online Arcade >> Bailey >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Then I noticed the check box for AUTOMATIC which I had checked as it was before I changed it. Since I have left it unchecked it has stayed set to the new setting. It would appear the automatic setting favors the ROTATE. Keith Clark Aledoweather CW2758 KC9HDD _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Russ Chadwick Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:57 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: [wxqc] Mass Mailing underway There are currently 6437 registered CWOP members and there are e-mail addresses for 6305 of them. An e-mail to each of those addresses giving information on changing to different servers will be sent out during the next hour or so. Russ __________ NOD32 2925 (20080305) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080305/ddd6e74d/attachment.html From jhlists at earthlink.net Thu Mar 6 15:43:58 2008 From: jhlists at earthlink.net (Radiocatus) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:43:58 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] starting again In-Reply-To: <49F62FD265DF4D8D937FCE43A25378EA@sauron> References: <49F62FD265DF4D8D937FCE43A25378EA@sauron> Message-ID: <47D0659E.6060802@earthlink.net> Yes, it would be nice if Davis VP2 consoles had provisions for selecting which wireless transmitter was to be used for *each* of the parameters. As it is, I think only the anemometer and secondary temperature / humidity transmitters can be designated to be separate from the ISS. I, too, would like to put a solar sensor on the roof of my garage at the north side of my lot where my anemometer and my house-powering solar panel arrays are. My ISS is down on a 5.5' post in middle of the back yard with the rain gauge and fan-aspirated solar shield, and has intermittent shading in winter from some 80' city-owned trees in the parkway next to the street at the south edge of my lot. I don't really want to have to dig a trench to get the cable from a solar sensor on the garage to the ISS in the middle of the back yard. Jay AS789 (W6SZE-9) Keith Miller wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of >> Victor Engel >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:03 PM >> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >> Subject: Re: [wxqc] starting again >> >> >> > > >> So if I'm following, you'd then have two ISS's, which would be >> possible if each were on its own channel. Correct? >> >> > > The console/envoy won't allow you to configure it for 2 ISS's. > All I was trying point out there is that the transmitters are > identical, the only thing making it impractical to use solar/UV > sensors with an anenometer transmitter is the console firmware. > > Of the two things I wish the VP2 system could do, connecting > the solar/UV to a anenometer transmitter is #1. > > > Keith > -- > CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com > http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250 From Gsdphotog at aol.com Thu Mar 6 16:32:22 2008 From: Gsdphotog at aol.com (Gsdphotog at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:32:22 EST Subject: [wxqc] Location CW3462 Message-ID: Sorry to keep bugging you Philip, but I went to the Findu map for my location and it is wrong. On the information on print outs to me the lat., long, and elevation ARE correct and put me much further into semi open land. lat. 35 degrees 2' 49" N (deg min sec). 35.0470" decimal,3502.82N (LORAN) long 82 degrees 11' 0"(deg min sec).-82 1833" (decimal), 08211.00W (LORAN) Elevation 305 meters (1000 feet) etc. etc. etc. this is not what the google map says. By roads you stay on 357 for about 2 to 3 miles past where Holly Springs is listed on the Google map then you take a left turn onto my street and there in the driveway to my house if the indication was in real time you would find the pointer. Hope this hasn't driven you crazy. But your records are saying that I am located where I am not. And as I mentioned I had so much trouble at first getting the thing lined up that poor Dave Helms took time to get me in the right place and he did it good. Much better than Google. Thanks again, June Robinson CWOP3462 gsdphotog at aol.com **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080306/d25172ab/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 17:04:01 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:04:01 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Location CW3462 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sounds like you're saying that your registered position is correct but the position in your weather data is incorrect. Follow the link to raw weather data to see what you're sending. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/rawwx.cgi?call=CW3462 Those values are determined by your software setup (or maybe station configuration, depending upon type of station/software). Victor CW6155 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM, wrote: > > > Sorry to keep bugging you Philip, but I went to the Findu map for my > location and it is wrong. > > On the information on print outs to me the lat., long, and elevation ARE > correct and put me much further into semi open land. lat. 35 degrees 2' 49" > N (deg min sec). 35.0470" decimal,3502.82N (LORAN) > long 82 degrees 11' 0"(deg min sec).-82 1833" (decimal), 08211.00W (LORAN) > Elevation 305 meters (1000 feet) > > etc. etc. etc. this is not what the google map says. By roads you stay on > 357 for about 2 to 3 miles past where Holly Springs is listed on the Google > map then you take a left turn onto my street and there in the driveway to my > house if the indication was in real time you would find the pointer. Hope > this hasn't driven you crazy. But your records are saying that I am located > where I am not. And as I mentioned I had so much trouble at first getting > the thing lined up that poor Dave Helms took time to get me in the right > place and he did it good. Much better than Google. > > Thanks again, June Robinson CWOP3462 > gsdphotog at aol.com > > > ________________________________ > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From philip at gladstonefamily.net Thu Mar 6 20:57:22 2008 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:57:22 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Location CW3462 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D0AF12.80409@gladstonefamily.net> Gsdphotog at aol.com wrote: > Sorry to keep bugging you Philip, but I went to the Findu map for my > location and it is wrong. > > On the information on print outs to me the lat., long, and elevation > ARE correct and put me much further into semi open land. lat. 35 > degrees 2' 49" N (deg min sec). 35.0470" decimal,3502.82N (LORAN) > long 82 degrees 11' 0"(deg min sec).-82 1833" (decimal), 08211.00W > (LORAN) > Elevation 305 meters (1000 feet) > > etc. etc. etc. this is not what the google map says. By roads you > stay on 357 for about 2 to 3 miles past where Holly Springs is listed > on the Google map then you take a left turn onto my street and there > in the driveway to my house if the indication was in real time you > would find the pointer. Hope this hasn't driven you crazy. But your > records are saying that I am located where I am not. And as I > mentioned I had so much trouble at first getting the thing lined up > that poor Dave Helms took time to get me in the right place and he did > it good. Much better than Google. > > Thanks again, June Robinson CWOP3462 > gsdphotog at aol.com June, The position shown on findu, and as the 'APRS Location' on http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/c3462 are the same (and wrong). This position comes from the information that you configured into Weatherlink when you set it up. I believe that if you look in the weatherlink setup, you will find the 35/0/0 and 82/12/0 location entered. This should be changed to 35/2/49 and 82/11/0 Once you do this, findu will update within 10 minutes or so. The 'APRS Location' will update overnight, and that section (with it's red warning) should drop off your page entirely. Philip From unkajim at comcast.net Thu Mar 6 21:13:50 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:13:50 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re: What's the significance? References: Message-ID: <005801c88001$4640beb0$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> Thanks, Russ. I am now seeing my station on the two lists. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] What's the significance? > Hi Jim, > > You (and another CW person) are on this list, > > http://wxqa.com/expt/C20080302.txt > > At the top of each hour, I partition all the received packets into eight > bins, depending on the symbol after the : > > :@ activecwd (CWxxxx with :@) > :@ activedwd (DWxxxx with :@) > :@ activeham (all other with :@) > :$ dollar > :_ unders > := equal > :! expt > else other > > Only the first 5 have an index of the past ten days, but all eight have > at least the past ten days on the wxqa.com web site. I will look into > getting the CW packets that aren't :@ back into the last packet heard > list. Sounds easy, but I have learned that things that sound easy > aren't necessarily so! > > Russ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Pace > Date: Sunday, March 2, 2008 6:08 pm > Subject: [wxqc] What's the significance? > >> In the early part of February, I modified my weather software to no >> longer >> add the client timestamp to the outgoing CWOP post since it seemed >> pointless >> to have it in there. In its place, I added an "!", then later the >> "=" and >> now back to the "!". Here's a recently sent string: >> CW0825>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP- >> 3:!4423.74N/12242.13W_067/002g004t050r000p028P000h67b10354JavaOWW >> 1.0 >> >> It looks like a consequence of this is that my station no longer >> shows in >> this list: http://www.wxqa.com/activecwd/C20080302.txt and February >> the 11th >> was the last time it is shown on the last packet sent list here: >> http://www.wxqa.com/lastpkt_reg.txt . >> >> The data shows normally on Findu and I continue to get quality >> feedback >> emails so it appears all is OK except for these two lists. Would >> the lack of >> the timestamp be the reason for omission from these two? >> >> Jim CW0825 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From jwilson at ncfcomm.com Thu Mar 6 20:24:55 2008 From: jwilson at ncfcomm.com (John L. Wilson) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:24:55 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Location CW3462 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00f701c87ffa$6f9b9d40$0200a8c0@MontyW> Hi June, Your registered position shows 3502.82N, 08211.00W as shown here http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C3462 However, you station is sending the following position 3500.00N, 08212.00W as shown here http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=CW3462 The second one is the Google map position which is different from the one shows on Phillips quality control site. If the first one is correct, then you need to change the position setup in your weather program. Hope this helps Monty Wilson, AP677