From DeerTrail131 at aol.com Fri Aug 1 00:26:23 2008 From: DeerTrail131 at aol.com (DeerTrail131 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:26:23 EDT Subject: [wxqc] wunderground Message-ID: Not all of it's working ............7/31/2008 11:24 PM Deer Trail, Colorado. 80105 _http://www.wunderground.com/swf/Rapid_Fire.swf?units=both&station=MD0573_ (http://www.wunderground.com/swf/Rapid_Fire.swf?units=both&station=MD0573) Ron In a message dated 7/31/2008 7:28:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ed at gilbertazwx.com writes: Strange how the Wundermaps appear to be working _http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=33.35180&lon=-111.80360&zoom=11_ (http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=33.35180&lon=-111.80360&zoom=11) Just not the historical or station data _http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KAZGILBE7_ (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KAZGILBE7) Ed Taggard CW6490 (CWOP) KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground) _www.gilbertazwx.com_ (http://www.gilbertazwx.com/) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [wxqc] wunderground From: _DeerTrail131 at aol.com_ (mailto:DeerTrail131 at aol.com) Date: Thu, July 31, 2008 2:40 pm To: _wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net_ (mailto:wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net) Is _www.wunderground.com_ (http://www.wunderground.com/) not working again? Or is it just here in Colorado? _http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573_ (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573) _http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO& selectedCountry=United+States_ (http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO&selectedCountry=United+States) Ron ____________________________________ Get fantasy football with free live scoring. _Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today_ (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) . ____________________________________ _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to _wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net_ (http://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php#Compose) To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: _http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc_ (http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc) To search the archives: _http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u_ (http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388:knlfnptih9u) The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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URL: From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Fri Aug 1 02:18:58 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:18:58 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] wunderground In-Reply-To: <489280B0.9030909@tedworld.com> References: <489280B0.9030909@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <4892B8E2.2070409@tamu.edu> I can tell you, too, that the sound of your heart pounding in your ears, right after you've popped the big red switch in your data center because there's smoke everywhere and the fire department isn't there, YET(!), is pretty bad, too. I feel for 'em. They do good work and keep a decent data center up! gerry Ted Lum wrote: > If the fire marshal somehow managed to escape death by halon > asphyxiation he'll probably not try that again any time soon. > > Victor Engel wrote: >> And here is the explanation: >> >> I'm going to make this brief, because we're not at 100% yet, but I >> thought it was only fair to get some info out to the members. >> >> I have a hard time relating yet ANOTHER outage this month to all of >> you without a painful grimace, only because of the completely bizarre >> circumstances surrounding all of these outages. I have yet one more >> for you. Perhaps nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, but I can >> guarantee you that until today no one could expect the Fire Marshal. >> >> Just before lunch today, the fire marshal showed up to examine the >> fire safety systems in one of our data centers. Let me tell you right >> now, the fire safety system works. It's awesome in fact. So awesome >> that when the fire marshal failed to engage the test mode, and instead >> went right to the "blow smoke at the detector" phase the entire data >> center went out like we'd blown a fuse. >> >> I can tell you right now, that the sound of a silent data center is >> enough to make your heart drop into the pit of your stomach. >> >> We're working on getting everything back up and running. Once again, >> we're sorry for the down time, and the fire marshal will "test" our >> fire system over my dead body. >> >> -Aaron >> >> http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WundergroundDevs/show.html >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Victor Engel wrote: >> >>> Looks like it's back up here, now. There were patches of data missing. >>> I don't know if the data is online somewhere and just needed to post, >>> but I used a trick that I've found that works in VWS to update the >>> data for the whole day. I just use Windows Task Manager to terminate >>> VWS, wait a minute, then restart VWS. Stopping it gracefully >>> unfortunately does not achieve the desired effect all the time. In >>> fact it rarely does. But ungracefully terminating it does. >>> >>> The alternative is to write a script to do the work myself, parsing >>> the data from my data files and using the wunderground API to update >>> the data. Since the former works, I've just been lazy and used it. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:40 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> Is www.wunderground.com not working again? >>>> >>>> Or is it just here in Colorado? >>>> >>>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573 >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO&selectedCountry=United+States >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy >>>> Football today. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> wxqc mailing list >>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>> To search the archives: >>>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>>> >>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From sam at wa4phy.net Fri Aug 1 07:09:19 2008 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:09:19 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] wunderground In-Reply-To: <489280B0.9030909@tedworld.com> References: <489280B0.9030909@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <4892FCEF.4070909@wa4phy.net> Ted Lum wrote: > If the fire marshal somehow managed to escape death by halon > asphyxiation he'll probably not try that again any time soon. > This is a little O.T., but wanted to comment. Actually, halon is not poisonous, however long time exposure to it is not good. I oversaw the installation of a halon fire suppression system at Oakland Army Base in the Comm Center, and when it came time to test the system, the contractor did not want to dump the live 850 lbs of halon to use carbon dioxide, as he'd have to drive to SFO to get the co2, and he also did not have enough bottles to test with. The decision was made to use the system as charged. Everything went of just as it should have, and we waited just a few minutes before entering to see what kind of mess we had. Upon entering the room(s) first thing you notice is your voice immediately changes and as I recall, you drop about 2 octaves. It was not difficult to breathe, but there is plenty of time to exit a room should the system ever go off due to a fire or a sensor trip the system from water or some other substance in the under-floor zone. I know it was shortly after removed from the list of approved products for fire suppression, but believe me, it does work. In the comm center, the "back room" was where the water heater and some other system hardware was located. That room was not included in the suppression area. We went in to reset some breakers that had tripped, and the first thing we noticed was the pilot light on the water heater was out. There was also a distinct smell or odor of sulphuric acid. That is one of the by-products produced by halon 1301 when it puts out the fire. The largest room with all the mainframes had those florescent light fixtures with the metal squares. (This is a 50 year old bldg) Apparently housekeeping had never dusted the tops of these flo-tube fixtures and when the system fired, enough dust was blown around that it was probably 1/4" deep on the floor and on the tops of the mainframes and everything else that had a flat surface! Sam From tjl at me.com Fri Aug 1 07:18:14 2008 From: tjl at me.com (Timothy J. LaDuca) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:18:14 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] wunderground In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1CCEF938-A0EB-4479-B03F-EDA4D0D3DFAE@me.com> where did you find this explanation? I'm having a hard time finding it anywhere. On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > And here is the explanation: > > I'm going to make this brief, because we're not at 100% yet, but I > thought it was only fair to get some info out to the members. > > I have a hard time relating yet ANOTHER outage this month to all of > you without a painful grimace, only because of the completely bizarre > circumstances surrounding all of these outages. I have yet one more > for you. Perhaps nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, but I can > guarantee you that until today no one could expect the Fire Marshal. > > Just before lunch today, the fire marshal showed up to examine the > fire safety systems in one of our data centers. Let me tell you right > now, the fire safety system works. It's awesome in fact. So awesome > that when the fire marshal failed to engage the test mode, and instead > went right to the "blow smoke at the detector" phase the entire data > center went out like we'd blown a fuse. > > I can tell you right now, that the sound of a silent data center is > enough to make your heart drop into the pit of your stomach. > > We're working on getting everything back up and running. Once again, > we're sorry for the down time, and the fire marshal will "test" our > fire system over my dead body. > > -Aaron > > http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WundergroundDevs/show.html > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Victor Engel > wrote: >> Looks like it's back up here, now. There were patches of data >> missing. >> I don't know if the data is online somewhere and just needed to post, >> but I used a trick that I've found that works in VWS to update the >> data for the whole day. I just use Windows Task Manager to terminate >> VWS, wait a minute, then restart VWS. Stopping it gracefully >> unfortunately does not achieve the desired effect all the time. In >> fact it rarely does. But ungracefully terminating it does. >> >> The alternative is to write a script to do the work myself, parsing >> the data from my data files and using the wunderground API to update >> the data. Since the former works, I've just been lazy and used it. >> >> Victor >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:40 PM, wrote: >>> Is www.wunderground.com not working again? >>> >>> Or is it just here in Colorado? >>> >>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573 >>> >>> >>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO&selectedCountry=United+States >>> >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse >>> Fantasy >>> Football today. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> To search the archives: >>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse? >>> cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From tjl at me.com Fri Aug 1 07:44:04 2008 From: tjl at me.com (Timothy J. LaDuca) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:44:04 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] wunderground In-Reply-To: <000601c8f3d3$bf819a10$8db851c7@corp.ds.fedex.com> References: <1CCEF938-A0EB-4479-B03F-EDA4D0D3DFAE@me.com> <000601c8f3d3$bf819a10$8db851c7@corp.ds.fedex.com> Message-ID: <470FF3F6-877A-4B66-8DE6-ACF27D0CBE4E@me.com> OK, well they deleted it then (redacted) for some reason. I'm not seeing it. On Aug 1, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Erik Proseus wrote: > Tim - Click the link at the bottom of the post. It points to the > Wundergruond developers blog. The post was copied straight from that. > > --Erik, CW4427 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Timothy > J. > LaDuca > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:18 AM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] wunderground > > where did you find this explanation? I'm having a hard time finding it > anywhere. > > On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > >> And here is the explanation: >> >> I'm going to make this brief, because we're not at 100% yet, but I >> thought it was only fair to get some info out to the members. >> >> I have a hard time relating yet ANOTHER outage this month to all of >> you without a painful grimace, only because of the completely bizarre >> circumstances surrounding all of these outages. I have yet one more >> for you. Perhaps nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, but I can >> guarantee you that until today no one could expect the Fire Marshal. >> >> Just before lunch today, the fire marshal showed up to examine the >> fire safety systems in one of our data centers. Let me tell you right >> now, the fire safety system works. It's awesome in fact. So awesome >> that when the fire marshal failed to engage the test mode, and >> instead >> went right to the "blow smoke at the detector" phase the entire data >> center went out like we'd blown a fuse. >> >> I can tell you right now, that the sound of a silent data center is >> enough to make your heart drop into the pit of your stomach. >> >> We're working on getting everything back up and running. Once again, >> we're sorry for the down time, and the fire marshal will "test" our >> fire system over my dead body. >> >> -Aaron >> >> http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WundergroundDevs/show.html >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Victor Engel >> wrote: >>> Looks like it's back up here, now. There were patches of data >>> missing. >>> I don't know if the data is online somewhere and just needed to >>> post, >>> but I used a trick that I've found that works in VWS to update the >>> data for the whole day. I just use Windows Task Manager to terminate >>> VWS, wait a minute, then restart VWS. Stopping it gracefully >>> unfortunately does not achieve the desired effect all the time. In >>> fact it rarely does. But ungracefully terminating it does. >>> >>> The alternative is to write a script to do the work myself, parsing >>> the data from my data files and using the wunderground API to update >>> the data. Since the former works, I've just been lazy and used it. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:40 PM, wrote: >>>> Is www.wunderground.com not working again? >>>> >>>> Or is it just here in Colorado? >>>> >>>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573 >>>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO > &selectedCountry=United+States >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse >>>> Fantasy >>>> Football today. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> wxqc mailing list >>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>> To search the archives: >>>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse? >>>> cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>>> >>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From brillig at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 09:29:17 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:29:17 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] wunderground In-Reply-To: <470FF3F6-877A-4B66-8DE6-ACF27D0CBE4E@me.com> References: <1CCEF938-A0EB-4479-B03F-EDA4D0D3DFAE@me.com> <000601c8f3d3$bf819a10$8db851c7@corp.ds.fedex.com> <470FF3F6-877A-4B66-8DE6-ACF27D0CBE4E@me.com> Message-ID: Yeah, that's why I copied the text. I was afraid with the troubles and the explanation that a more detailed explanation would follow, that it would be temporary, and then the link wouldn't work. I just noticed another interesting anomaly that makes me wonder if the data center was moved to Newfoundland . I pulled up my station and looked at the data lines below the graphs. The data for yesterday goes from midnight yesterday morning to 12:30 this morning (24.5 hours). What explanation could there be for that, if not a move to Newfoundland time zone, heheh? Victor On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Timothy J. LaDuca wrote: > OK, well they deleted it then (redacted) for some reason. I'm not seeing it. > > On Aug 1, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Erik Proseus wrote: > >> Tim - Click the link at the bottom of the post. It points to the >> Wundergruond developers blog. The post was copied straight from that. >> >> --Erik, CW4427 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Timothy J. >> LaDuca >> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:18 AM >> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >> Subject: Re: [wxqc] wunderground >> >> where did you find this explanation? I'm having a hard time finding it >> anywhere. >> >> On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Victor Engel wrote: >> >>> And here is the explanation: >>> >>> I'm going to make this brief, because we're not at 100% yet, but I >>> thought it was only fair to get some info out to the members. >>> >>> I have a hard time relating yet ANOTHER outage this month to all of >>> you without a painful grimace, only because of the completely bizarre >>> circumstances surrounding all of these outages. I have yet one more >>> for you. Perhaps nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, but I can >>> guarantee you that until today no one could expect the Fire Marshal. >>> >>> Just before lunch today, the fire marshal showed up to examine the >>> fire safety systems in one of our data centers. Let me tell you right >>> now, the fire safety system works. It's awesome in fact. So awesome >>> that when the fire marshal failed to engage the test mode, and instead >>> went right to the "blow smoke at the detector" phase the entire data >>> center went out like we'd blown a fuse. >>> >>> I can tell you right now, that the sound of a silent data center is >>> enough to make your heart drop into the pit of your stomach. >>> >>> We're working on getting everything back up and running. Once again, >>> we're sorry for the down time, and the fire marshal will "test" our >>> fire system over my dead body. >>> >>> -Aaron >>> >>> http://www.wunderground.com/blog/WundergroundDevs/show.html >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Victor Engel >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Looks like it's back up here, now. There were patches of data >>>> missing. >>>> I don't know if the data is online somewhere and just needed to post, >>>> but I used a trick that I've found that works in VWS to update the >>>> data for the whole day. I just use Windows Task Manager to terminate >>>> VWS, wait a minute, then restart VWS. Stopping it gracefully >>>> unfortunately does not achieve the desired effect all the time. In >>>> fact it rarely does. But ungracefully terminating it does. >>>> >>>> The alternative is to write a script to do the work myself, parsing >>>> the data from my data files and using the wunderground API to update >>>> the data. Since the former works, I've just been lazy and used it. >>>> >>>> Victor >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:40 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is www.wunderground.com not working again? >>>>> >>>>> Or is it just here in Colorado? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MD0573 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/ListStations.asp?selectedState=CO >> &selectedCountry=United+States >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse >>>>> Fantasy >>>>> Football today. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> wxqc mailing list >>>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>>> To search the archives: >>>>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse? >>>>> cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>>>> >>>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> To search the archives: >> >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From wayne at smythweather.net Sat Aug 2 11:43:10 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:43:10 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? Message-ID: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a difference as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated normally for a few minutes then dropped again. All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about the server conditions. Wayne Thomas www.smythweather.net CW8217 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM From gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com Sat Aug 2 11:55:36 2008 From: gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com (Ted Lum) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:55:36 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, 40 minutes, ETA unknown. -Ted- Wayne Thomas wrote: > I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had > not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a > difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about > the server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From brillig at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 11:56:08 2008 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:56:08 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: I am experiencing the same issues today. When I noticed it hadn't updated in 15+ minutes, I hit the manual button to issue an update. It hesitated a couple times and then went through. So I checked what was online, and it appears that quite a few data points are missing today. My other feeds to other locations don't have a single miss. Victor On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Wayne Thomas wrote: > I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had not > updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a > difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about the > server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From unkajim at comcast.net Sat Aug 2 11:59:25 2008 From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:59:25 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Server Problems today?? References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <000e01c8f4c1$1efc5d20$6500a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh> A check here: http://www.wxqa.com/checkservers2.html shows CWOP2 to be down. It seems VWS APRS needs some code re-work to better handle a CWOP server being down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Thomas" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: [personal] [wxqc] Server Problems today?? >I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had not >updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a >difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about the > server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From w_smith at compusmiths.com Sat Aug 2 12:01:21 2008 From: w_smith at compusmiths.com (William P.N. Smith) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:01:21 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <489492E1.5010505@compusmiths.com> Thanks for the reminder, I had left a different program connected, which blocked my publishing! Anyway, mine's working now... Wayne Thomas wrote: > I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had > not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a > difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about > the server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From brewmaster2 at charter.net Sat Aug 2 12:01:32 2008 From: brewmaster2 at charter.net (Jim & Karen Stuntz) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:01:32 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <000301c8f4c1$6a7b4c70$3f71e550$@net> Same here at CW5302... -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:56 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? I am experiencing the same issues today. When I noticed it hadn't updated in 15+ minutes, I hit the manual button to issue an update. It hesitated a couple times and then went through. So I checked what was online, and it appears that quite a few data points are missing today. My other feeds to other locations don't have a single miss. Victor On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Wayne Thomas wrote: > I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had not > updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a > difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about the > server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From w_smith at compusmiths.com Sat Aug 2 12:08:21 2008 From: w_smith at compusmiths.com (William P.N. Smith) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Wind Gust reporting Message-ID: <48949485.5090807@compusmiths.com> I had an idea about how to simplify my reporting of wind gusts. Is it acceptable to report the highest wind recorded during the last hour (between noon and 1PM) at my first reporting interval (in my case, on the 8's), or do I have to report the highest wind gust recorded between 12:07PM and 1:08PM? I'm also assuming it's OK to report the highest wind speed reported in any 10-second sampling interval, rather than the meteorological "sustained for a certain amount of time" wind gust... Does that make any sense? Thanks! Willie Smith DW0758 From wayne at smythweather.net Sat Aug 2 12:43:51 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:43:51 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <48949CD7.3090901@smythweather.net> Thanks Ted! Everything looked OK on this end so that was all left to suspect :-) I did upgrade to the latest version of VWS APRS I don't know that has any different handling of a downed server but we'll see shortly. Been one storm after another here today so I hope I don't end up with more serious troubles. Wayne CW8217 www.smythweather.net Ted Lum wrote: > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > -Ted- > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM From brewmaster2 at charter.net Sat Aug 2 13:11:42 2008 From: brewmaster2 at charter.net (Jim & Karen Stuntz) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:11:42 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48949CD7.3090901@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> <48949CD7.3090901@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <000401c8f4cb$382e8390$a88b8ab0$@net> Looking good here after a restart of WL. -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:44 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? Thanks Ted! Everything looked OK on this end so that was all left to suspect :-) I did upgrade to the latest version of VWS APRS I don't know that has any different handling of a downed server but we'll see shortly. Been one storm after another here today so I hope I don't end up with more serious troubles. Wayne CW8217 www.smythweather.net Ted Lum wrote: > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > -Ted- > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com Sat Aug 2 13:44:26 2008 From: gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com (Ted Lum) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:44:26 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <48949188.6060109@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <4894AB0A.40507@tedworld.com> CWOP-2 is back as-of 18:01 GMT. -Ted- Ted Lum wrote: > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > -Ted- > > Wayne Thomas wrote: >> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had >> not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make >> a difference >> as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated >> normally for a few minutes then dropped again. >> >> All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious >> about the server conditions. >> >> Wayne Thomas >> www.smythweather.net >> CW8217 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >> Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Scidig at aol.com Sat Aug 2 14:08:57 2008 From: Scidig at aol.com (Scidig at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:08:57 EDT Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? Message-ID: looks like cw2404 lost a few hours of data . Don't if it was a problem with WL or the server. Wunderground seemed to keep the data, though. In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:45:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com writes: CWOP-2 is back as-of 18:01 GMT. -Ted- Ted Lum wrote: > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > -Ted- > > Wayne Thomas wrote: >> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had >> not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make >> a difference >> as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated >> normally for a few minutes then dropped again. >> >> All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious >> about the server conditions. >> >> Wayne Thomas >> www.smythweather.net >> CW8217 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >> Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tjl at me.com Sat Aug 2 14:59:18 2008 From: tjl at me.com (Tim Laduca) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:59:18 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CFA1657-781F-4031-9ACA-5AE1F635C936@me.com> I didn't lose any data. If anyone is running a mac, there is new software called lightsoft weather center. I am very happy with it and the developer is quick to fix bugs, also free while in beta. It handled the outage flawlessly. Regards, Tim email: tjl at me.com CW8595 On Aug 2, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Scidig at aol.com wrote: > looks like cw2404 lost a few hours of data . Don't if it was a > problem with WL or the server. Wunderground seemed to keep the data, > though. > > In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:45:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com > writes: > CWOP-2 is back as-of 18:01 GMT. > > -Ted- > > Ted Lum wrote: > > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > > > -Ted- > > > > Wayne Thomas wrote: > >> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP > had > >> not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to > make > >> a difference > >> as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it > updated > >> normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > >> > >> All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious > >> about the server conditions. > >> > >> Wayne Thomas > >> www.smythweather.net > >> CW8217 > >> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus > >> Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wxqc mailing list > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> To search the archives: > >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > >> > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL Autos. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gw33340 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 2 16:51:03 2008 From: gw33340 at yahoo.com (Greggo) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <5CFA1657-781F-4031-9ACA-5AE1F635C936@me.com> Message-ID: <199043.73865.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> It seems my cranky old desktop and FreeWX-Wi kept chugging right along without any human intervention. (it's nice when things work like they're supposed to!) Tim Laduca wrote: I didn't lose any data. If anyone is running a mac, there is new software called lightsoft weather center. I am very happy with it and the developer is quick to fix bugs, also free while in beta. It handled the outage flawlessly. Regards, Tim email: tjl at me.com CW8595 On Aug 2, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Scidig at aol.com wrote: looks like cw2404 lost a few hours of data . Don't if it was a problem with WL or the server. Wunderground seemed to keep the data, though. In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:45:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com writes: CWOP-2 is back as-of 18:01 GMT. -Ted- Ted Lum wrote: > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > -Ted- > > Wayne Thomas wrote: >> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had >> not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make >> a difference >> as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated >> normally for a few minutes then dropped again. >> >> All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious >> about the server conditions. >> >> Wayne Thomas >> www.smythweather.net >> CW8217 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus >> Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. --------------------------------- Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? 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URL: From jhlists at earthlink.net Sat Aug 2 18:17:04 2008 From: jhlists at earthlink.net (Radiocatus) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:17:04 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] CORE-2 having problems? In-Reply-To: <199043.73865.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <199043.73865.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4894EAF0.3070705@earthlink.net> Looks like CWOP2 has been working the last few hours, but now CORE-2 appears to be intermittently unreachable. Jay W6SZE-9/AS789 From wayne at smythweather.net Sat Aug 2 21:25:58 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:25:58 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <199043.73865.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <199043.73865.qm@web65403.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48951736.4020304@smythweather.net> Well... I wish I had been that lucky! My internet connection as usual went down shortly after I left this afternoon at 3Pm. And has been off line for several hours now so I don't look for me to get back with data anytime soon being out that long. More than likely I am locked out of everything again. We did have some rather intense storms go through here on and off most of the day..but my dsl connection craps out on a sunny day for no reason at all. The phone co has no idea whats wrong all they want to do is cut the speed back which is not an alternative to actually fix anything anyway About all that would do is take me all day to send an update if I am ever able to get back on the servers anyway LOL! Glad everyone else faired well though! Wayne www.smythweather.net cw-8217 Although not active I am guessing Greggo wrote: > It seems my cranky old desktop and FreeWX-Wi kept chugging right along > without any human intervention. > > (it's nice when things work like they're supposed to!) > > */Tim Laduca /* wrote: From gw33340 at yahoo.com Sat Aug 2 23:40:29 2008 From: gw33340 at yahoo.com (Greggo) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48951736.4020304@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <934691.82578.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Well, with 26.4 dialup, I can't tell if I'm getting bad service or not! :) Wayne Thomas wrote: Well... I wish I had been that lucky! My internet connection as usual went down shortly after I left this afternoon at 3Pm. And has been off line for several hours now so I don't look for me to get back with data anytime soon being out that long. More than likely I am locked out of everything again. We did have some rather intense storms go through here on and off most of the day..but my dsl connection craps out on a sunny day for no reason at all. The phone co has no idea whats wrong all they want to do is cut the speed back which is not an alternative to actually fix anything anyway About all that would do is take me all day to send an update if I am ever able to get back on the servers anyway LOL! Glad everyone else faired well though! Wayne www.smythweather.net cw-8217 Although not active I am guessing Greggo wrote: > It seems my cranky old desktop and FreeWX-Wi kept chugging right along > without any human intervention. > > (it's nice when things work like they're supposed to!) > > */Tim Laduca /* wrote: _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimwc at frontiernet.net Sun Aug 3 09:22:53 2008 From: jimwc at frontiernet.net (Jim Crumly) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:22:53 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] position error Message-ID: <000001c8f574$6bbfea10$433fbe30$@net> To any one that can help I have noticed on the near by activity page on the FINDU report for my station that there is a station CW0310 about 6 or 8 miles from my station. With some investigation I have found that the station is in Lakeport , CA. I am in Bullhead, AZ a few hundred miles away. Is this stations information being used for my QA. I have tried to contact this person via Email and the Email address is bad. So if this information is being used in my QA what do I do to correct the situation. Jim CW4367 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Sun Aug 3 10:00:04 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:00:04 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <4895C7F4.2000703@tamu.edu> We had a couple of problems that I'm working to resolve. CWOP1 was offline several times over the course of an hour in the early morning for campus network hardware updates. CWOP2 was down for an extended time for unknown reasons. We're working to determine the reasons. What server(s) are you entering in your config, please? gerry Wayne Thomas wrote: > I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that CWOP had > not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to make a > difference > as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it updated > normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > > All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious about > the server conditions. > > Wayne Thomas > www.smythweather.net > CW8217 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From wayne at smythweather.net Sun Aug 3 10:29:20 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:29:20 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <4895C7F4.2000703@tamu.edu> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <4895C7F4.2000703@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <4895CED0.20806@smythweather.net> I am using the latest version on VWS APRS which is supposed to have the auto sense feature that rolls over to the next server in the list if it can't negotiate a connection with the currently picked server. It is supposed to use CWOP 1 , CWOP 2 CWOP 3 servers exclusively. When I last checked my packet data it looked like it was switching amongst all three during a given period. I have been off line since roughly 9am today with network troubles here so I may not even be transmitting updates yet ..but should be very soon I hope Wayne Thomas CW8217 Gerry Creager wrote: > We had a couple of problems that I'm working to resolve. > > CWOP1 was offline several times over the course of an hour in the > early morning for campus network hardware updates. > > CWOP2 was down for an extended time for unknown reasons. We're > working to determine the reasons. > > What server(s) are you entering in your config, please? > > gerry > > -- Find Weather Conditions For Any Location ! www.smythweather.net From wayne at smythweather.net Sun Aug 3 10:23:33 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:23:33 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <934691.82578.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <934691.82578.qm@web65414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4895CD75.2070003@smythweather.net> I know what you mean on that! When I was on dial up I just wished I could get that fast. About 19 something was as good as I could get. My DSL connection here works great until it decides to go on strike then it takes a congressional act to get it back up. Local phone co says that they have done all they know to do. If you notice the downstream noise margin getting bad get ready for an outage! It's been a mad house around here this weekend with DSL problem Thermo/Hygro sensor problems! I am so far behind I'll probably never see a green check mark on anything again LOL! Wayne CW8217 Greggo wrote: > Well, with 26.4 dialup, I can't tell if I'm getting bad service or > not! :) > > *//* From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Sun Aug 3 11:01:15 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:01:15 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4895D64B.5020405@tamu.edu> All, It appears that there remains some misunderstanding about how Wsome of the software, and how Windows, handle DNS lookups. There's often also an issue with howw ISPs handle DNS in an attempt to reduce their bandwidth and "improve" service. Over the last several years, we've been working with software authors to improve how they handle the DNS lookup for Round Robin DNS. The concept is that a client should look at the host address returned by the DNS lookup each time it's time to send data, then use that one. This should result in either a normal rotation of servers or a random rotation, depending on timing and OS operation. Some software simply does the lookup at program startup and grads ONE address, and lives with it. If that server were to drop, that software keeps trying. And failing. This appears to have been the case yesterday. Older versions of Windows, and XP, pre-SP2, often cached addresses as a "service" in violation of good internet practice. SP2, and, I'm told, Vista, have fixed this, as have the various Server offerings. Some ISPs cache DNS hits longer than the published timeouts for a variety of reasons that often reflect a misunderstanding of the Domain Name Resolution system. This, too can cause problems. IF your software allows only one entry for server(s), you could be hosed when we have one go down. Our rotation system is based on geographical diversity as well as strength in numbers (for a small set of numbers). Software should be able to do a request each time it goes out to a server, for that server's IP address rather than thinking it should store the data forever. IF your software supports multiple server entries, I suggest that you consider the following: cwop.aprs.net port 14580 cwop1.aprs.net port 14580 cwop3.aprs.net port 14580 The basis for this is the following: In a historical review of traffic on the APRS and CWOP servers, we've seen that for 'n' servers in the Round Robin DNS rotation, server 'n-1' routinely gets ~20% more traffic than the remaining servers. In concrete terms, we employ three servers. CWOP2 routinely gets 20% more reports/connections than CWOP1 or CWOP3. This appears to be an artifact of RR-DNS and one we cannot get around as long as we use it. I suspect WUnderground uses a high-availability server cluster at one site to acquire their data. We are looking at this, and other load-balancing solutions for CWOP to reduce the problem we're seeing now, where a single server goes down and your reports drop off into the dust. Just to recap: The Round Robin DNS solution isn't a random choice. It's the same method Google and CNN, to name two, use so that you'll distribute well. It works pretty well, but not every OS installation handles DNS right, not every application does, and sometimes your ISP is not your friend. If you can configure multiple serves, the list above is my current recommendation and request. Please let me know of server problems. We're trying to minimize them. Gerry Scidig at aol.com wrote: > looks like cw2404 lost a few hours of data . Don't if it was a problem > with WL or the server. Wunderground seemed to keep the data, though. > > In a message dated 8/2/2008 2:45:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com writes: > > CWOP-2 is back as-of 18:01 GMT. > > -Ted- > > Ted Lum wrote: > > CWOP-1 experienced brief intermittent problems earlier this morning > > that could have hung vulnerable software, but would not cause a > > wide-spread, long-term outage. CWOP-2 has been down now for 3 hours, > > 40 minutes, ETA unknown. > > > > -Ted- > > > > Wayne Thomas wrote: > >> I just done my mid day check just before noon and found that > CWOP had > >> not updated for several minutes . Restarting VWS didn't seem to > make > >> a difference > >> as well as restarting VWS APRS. I restarted the server and it > updated > >> normally for a few minutes then dropped again. > >> > >> All my other services seem to be updating normally. Just curious > >> about the server conditions. > >> > >> Wayne Thomas > >> www.smythweather.net > >> CW8217 > >> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus > >> Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wxqc mailing list > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> To search the archives: > >> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > >> > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL Autos > . > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From ed at gilbertazwx.com Sun Aug 3 11:23:52 2008 From: ed at gilbertazwx.com (ed at gilbertazwx.com) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:23:52 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] position error Message-ID: <20080803092352.4dc4e85d122b6a01777bd2b343ee229e.56ec2d76d2.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Jim, It seems the registered station location that Philip has for CW0310 (http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C0310#themap) appears correct. Maybe it just the FindU database that contains the error. Have you tried to contact Steve Dimse (steve at dimse.com) to let him know? I'm not sure if you've tried this avenue. One encouraging thing is that CW0310 does not appear on the bottom of your 'CWOP Information for CW4367' page under Neighboring Stations ;-) Good Luck, Ed Taggard CW6490 (CWOP) KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground) www.gilbertazwx.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [wxqc] position error From: "Jim Crumly" Date: Sun, August 03, 2008 7:22 am To: To any one that can help I have noticed on the near by activity page on the FINDU report for my station that there is a station CW0310 about 6 or 8 miles from my station. With some investigation I have found that the station is in Lakeport , CA. I am in Bullhead, AZ a few hundred miles away. Is this stations information being used for my QA. I have tried to contact this person via Email and the Email address is bad. So if this information is being used in my QA what do I do to correct the situation. Jim CW4367 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From jimwc at frontiernet.net Sun Aug 3 17:47:32 2008 From: jimwc at frontiernet.net (Jim Crumly) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:47:32 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] position error In-Reply-To: <20080803092352.4dc4e85d122b6a01777bd2b343ee229e.56ec2d76d2.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080803092352.4dc4e85d122b6a01777bd2b343ee229e.56ec2d76d2.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <000301c8f5ba$ec9f6390$c5de2ab0$@net> Yes I noticed that. I just wanted to be sure that CW0310 was not being used in my QA. I think that the registered location is correct it just that CW0310 has his Lat & Long incorrectly entered in his soft ware. Jim CW4367 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of ed at gilbertazwx.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:24 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error Jim, It seems the registered station location that Philip has for CW0310 (http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C0310#themap) appears correct. Maybe it just the FindU database that contains the error. Have you tried to contact Steve Dimse (steve at dimse.com) to let him know? I'm not sure if you've tried this avenue. One encouraging thing is that CW0310 does not appear on the bottom of your 'CWOP Information for CW4367' page under Neighboring Stations ;-) Good Luck, Ed Taggard CW6490 (CWOP) KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground) www.gilbertazwx.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [wxqc] position error From: "Jim Crumly" Date: Sun, August 03, 2008 7:22 am To: To any one that can help I have noticed on the near by activity page on the FINDU report for my station that there is a station CW0310 about 6 or 8 miles from my station. With some investigation I have found that the station is in Lakeport , CA. I am in Bullhead, AZ a few hundred miles away. Is this stations information being used for my QA. I have tried to contact this person via Email and the Email address is bad. So if this information is being used in my QA what do I do to correct the situation. Jim CW4367 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From ed at gilbertazwx.com Sun Aug 3 18:36:31 2008 From: ed at gilbertazwx.com (ed at gilbertazwx.com) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:36:31 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] position error Message-ID: <20080803163631.4dc4e85d122b6a01777bd2b343ee229e.c405a09c60.wbe@email.secureserver.net> It looks like you're on the right track. CW0310 is still sending coordinates as if they are still your neighbor as seen from the raw data at http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=CW0310. It's unfortunate they haven't updated any contact info after they moved. Ed Taggard CW6490 (CWOP) KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground) www.gilbertazwx.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error From: "Jim Crumly" Date: Sun, August 03, 2008 3:47 pm To: "'Discussion of weather data quality issues'" Yes I noticed that. I just wanted to be sure that CW0310 was not being used in my QA. I think that the registered location is correct it just that CW0310 has his Lat & Long incorrectly entered in his soft ware. Jim CW4367 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of ed at gilbertazwx.com Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:24 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error Jim, It seems the registered station location that Philip has for CW0310 (http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C0310#themap) appears correct. Maybe it just the FindU database that contains the error. Have you tried to contact Steve Dimse (steve at dimse.com) to let him know? I'm not sure if you've tried this avenue. One encouraging thing is that CW0310 does not appear on the bottom of your 'CWOP Information for CW4367' page under Neighboring Stations ;-) Good Luck, Ed Taggard CW6490 (CWOP) KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground) www.gilbertazwx.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [wxqc] position error From: "Jim Crumly" Date: Sun, August 03, 2008 7:22 am To: To any one that can help I have noticed on the near by activity page on the FINDU report for my station that there is a station CW0310 about 6 or 8 miles from my station. With some investigation I have found that the station is in Lakeport , CA. I am in Bullhead, AZ a few hundred miles away. Is this stations information being used for my QA. I have tried to contact this person via Email and the Email address is bad. So if this information is being used in my QA what do I do to correct the situation. Jim CW4367 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Sun Aug 3 19:43:33 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:43:33 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <4895CED0.20806@smythweather.net> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <4895C7F4.2000703@tamu.edu> <4895CED0.20806@smythweather.net> Message-ID: <489650B5.6010905@tamu.edu> Your system is rotating through the list fine gerry Wayne Thomas wrote: > I am using the latest version on VWS APRS which is supposed to have the > auto sense feature that rolls over to the next server in the list if it > can't negotiate a connection with the > currently picked server. It is supposed to use CWOP 1 , CWOP 2 CWOP > 3 servers exclusively. When I last checked my packet data it looked like > it was switching amongst all > three during a given period. I have been off line since roughly 9am > today with network troubles here so I may not even be transmitting > updates yet ..but should be very soon I hope > > > Wayne Thomas > CW8217 > > > > > Gerry Creager wrote: >> We had a couple of problems that I'm working to resolve. >> >> CWOP1 was offline several times over the course of an hour in the >> early morning for campus network hardware updates. >> >> CWOP2 was down for an extended time for unknown reasons. We're >> working to determine the reasons. >> >> What server(s) are you entering in your config, please? >> >> gerry >> >> > > -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Sun Aug 3 21:17:44 2008 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:17:44 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] position error In-Reply-To: <000301c8f5ba$ec9f6390$c5de2ab0$@net> Message-ID: <016001c8f5d8$49d44bd0$6e01a8c0@sauron> > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Jim Crumly > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:48 PM > To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' > Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error > > > Yes I noticed that. I just wanted to be sure that CW0310 was > not being used in my QA. Unlikely as virutally all is failing the L2 check. More like your data is helping to fail their data. Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250 From wayne at smythweather.net Sun Aug 3 22:13:24 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:13:24 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Server Problems today?? In-Reply-To: <489650B5.6010905@tamu.edu> References: <48948E9E.3080504@smythweather.net> <4895C7F4.2000703@tamu.edu> <4895CED0.20806@smythweather.net> <489650B5.6010905@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <489673D4.6070709@smythweather.net> Thanks Gerry! Everything here seems to be fully back to normal server wise anyway. I have been up and down often today in an attempt to isolate some sensor faults and a few other problems.. I sincerely hope I have evened out a bit on this end as far as problems are concerned. Thanks for all the assistance and for keeping things running as smoothly as possible! Wayne Thomas www.smythweather.net CW8217 Gerry Creager wrote: > Your system is rotating through the list fine > > gerry > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 8/3/2008 1:00 PM From jimwc at frontiernet.net Sun Aug 3 22:22:28 2008 From: jimwc at frontiernet.net (Jim Crumly) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:22:28 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] position error In-Reply-To: <016001c8f5d8$49d44bd0$6e01a8c0@sauron> References: <000301c8f5ba$ec9f6390$c5de2ab0$@net> <016001c8f5d8$49d44bd0$6e01a8c0@sauron> Message-ID: <001601c8f5e1$543b5380$fcb1fa80$@net> Keith This has been going on for at least a month Thanks for your input Jim -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Keith Miller Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:18 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Jim Crumly > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:48 PM > To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' > Subject: Re: [wxqc] position error > > > Yes I noticed that. I just wanted to be sure that CW0310 was > not being used in my QA. Unlikely as virutally all is failing the L2 check. More like your data is helping to fail their data. Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From wayne at smythweather.net Mon Aug 4 22:13:04 2008 From: wayne at smythweather.net (Wayne Thomas) Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:13:04 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Time For recovery From Bad Data Message-ID: <4897C540.3060908@smythweather.net> I had a weekend full of troubles starting Friday with temp/rh sensor problem and progressed throughout the weekend with internet failures and another sensor drop out. So currently my QC is most likely the worst in the system mainly because of the prolonged malfunction on 8/1 Problem then was I was unable to get to the site or gain control of the server from work which allowed a prolonged period of uploaded junk. \ I was just curious as to how long it takes to recover from this providing I don't have a repeat of this weekend.. Hopefully keeping my dsl connection going will be the worst problem I have. Thanks! Wayne www.smythweather.net cw8217 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1591 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 7:23 PM From cowbuck at sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 5 13:00:53 2008 From: cowbuck at sbcglobal.net (cowbuck) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:00:53 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] WU Module V 1.15 for WeatherLink / WM II Message-ID: <000d01c8f725$34608310$9d218930$@net> RE: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WUndergroundModule-Readme.html Does anyone know if the "Weather Underground Expansion Module Version 1.15 for WeatherLink" will be updated soon to "fix rainfall with WMII stations"??? ~~~~ Rich DW0913 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There's got to be a better way. -- Tim McManus tim.mcmanus at mac.com From sam at wa4phy.net Wed Aug 6 07:41:54 2008 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:41:54 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: <48999C12.1090101@wa4phy.net> Tom, It sounds like you have some flakey software. If it can't handle a non-connect status, and is locking up, someone needs to write some better software. I use VWS and I have no problems at all if a server goes down. Sam From steve at softwx.com Wed Aug 6 08:14:20 2008 From: steve at softwx.com (Steve) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:14:20 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: I have a freeware program called VPLive http://www.softwx.com/weather/vplive.html that will work with the VP and VP2 (but not the WMII - I'm not sure which station you have). It sends to CWOP, correctly calculating and sending all data fields, including all three rain values and solar if you have it. It can be configured to periodically run WeatherLink briefly so WeatherLink can download archive data and keep the WLK files up to date. VPLive has been continuously running without any interruption on my weather PC for over 4 months (which is when I last manually rebooted). Steve SoftWx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim McManus" To: Sent: 08/06/2008 6:28 AM Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability > This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times > WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. I > could only collect three hours of data over the past two days because of > a down server. > > This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. > > We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of the > data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the > situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. > > > -- > Tim McManus > tim.mcmanus at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From cmowen at att.net Wed Aug 6 08:11:15 2008 From: cmowen at att.net (cmowen at att.net) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:11:15 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: <080620081311.20421.4899A2F300065C9E00004FC522230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net> The Davis people really need to fix this glitch in thier software. I am using the Weatherlink software with the VP2Pro. When I was using WUHU with my old station, I never had a lockup. I did have the problem with my Cable Router not rotating the DNS and would lock on a down server. I locked up at about 11 last night and will be down until I check it tonight most likely. Charles CW4870 PS: I still wish there was some provision for recapturing the data to NOAA/MADIS! -------------- Original message from Tim McManus : -------------- > This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times > WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. > I could only collect three hours of data over the past two days > because of a down server. > > This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. > > We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of > the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the > situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. > > > -- > Tim McManus > tim.mcmanus at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmowen at att.net Wed Aug 6 08:31:18 2008 From: cmowen at att.net (cmowen at att.net) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:31:18 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: <080620081331.29069.4899A7A60006C7620000718D22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net> Steve, I have a file that uses the VP data variables that the weather link uploads for me to run my website display. Can it force the upload of one of these templates? I am uploading the graphics, but have decided that they are not that important to my "viewers" in general. Charles CW4870 -------------- Original message from "Steve" : -------------- > I have a freeware program called VPLive > http://www.softwx.com/weather/vplive.html that will work with the VP and VP2 > (but not the WMII - I'm not sure which station you have). It sends to CWOP, > correctly calculating and sending all data fields, including all three rain > values and solar if you have it. It can be configured to periodically run > WeatherLink briefly so WeatherLink can download archive data and keep the > WLK files up to date. VPLive has been continuously running without any > interruption on my weather PC for over 4 months (which is when I last > manually rebooted). > > Steve > SoftWx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim McManus" > To: > Sent: 08/06/2008 6:28 AM > Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability > > > > This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times > > WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. I > > could only collect three hours of data over the past two days because of > > a down server. > > > > This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. > > > > We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of the > > data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the > > situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. > > > > > > -- > > Tim McManus > > tim.mcmanus at mac.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > To search the archives: > > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From cowbuck at sbcglobal.net Wed Aug 6 07:49:46 2008 From: cowbuck at sbcglobal.net (cowbuck) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:49:46 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: <000901c8f7c2$e961dc80$bc259580$@net> Have you updated to the newest WeatherLink version 5.8.1? http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/software_sftwr.asp ~~~~ Rich -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Tim McManus Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:29 AM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. I could only collect three hours of data over the past two days because of a down server. This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. -- Tim McManus tim.mcmanus at mac.com _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From deviant at deviant.org Wed Aug 6 08:56:51 2008 From: deviant at deviant.org (The Deviant) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:56:51 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Lightning protection In-Reply-To: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> References: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am currently using a Tripp Lite DB9 Network Surge Suppressor on my serial ports. So far - no problems yet (knock on plastic), and we've had a few good lightning bouts lately. A friend who is using a similar set-up to mine gave me this one. I intend to get another when I add 1-wire to my station. http://www.tripplite.com/EN/products/product-series.cfm?txtSeriesID=112&CID=1 You can get them for under $15, if you look around... My station is also grounded (what I would call) extremely well, so that could be another factor... HTH -- James CW: C9249 WU: KMODESOT1 On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Robert Rogers wrote: > Hello all: > > I've been loosing computer serial ports after lighting storms... It seems > only to get the RX port on the serial port.... > > Anny suggestions... > > -- > Bob > n8fau15 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From jdotson at hughes.net Wed Aug 6 08:58:13 2008 From: jdotson at hughes.net (Jody Dotson) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:58:13 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <080620081311.20421.4899A2F300065C9E00004FC522230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> <080620081311.20421.4899A2F300065C9E00004FC522230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net> Message-ID: <4899ADF5.6000009@hughes.net> I don't have an answer to the problem but I installed the free version of Logmein software on all my PC's so I can remotely check the status of the computers if there is a reporting problem. It sure saves down time by allowing the problem to be corrected remotely or even a reboot if necessary without having to be in front of the machine. Two of the weather stations I maintain consist only of the PC tower and I log in remotely if I have to access the software or system. cmowen at att.net wrote: > The Davis people really need to fix this glitch in thier software. I > am using the Weatherlink software with the VP2Pro. When I was using > WUHU with my old station, I never had a lockup. I did have the problem > with my Cable Router not rotating the DNS and would lock on a down > server. I locked up at about 11 last night and will be down until I > check it tonight most likely. > > Charles > CW4870 > > PS: I still wish there was some provision for recapturing the data to > NOAA/MADIS! > > -------------- Original message from Tim McManus > : -------------- > > > > This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times > > WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes > down. > > I could only collect three hours of data over the past two days > > because of a down server. > > > > This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. > > > > We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent > any of > > the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP > because the > > situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. > > > > > > -- > > Tim McManus > > tim.mcmanus at mac.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To > search the archives: > > > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3332 (20080806) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com Wed Aug 6 10:38:54 2008 From: gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com (Ted Lum) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:38:54 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> Message-ID: <4899C58E.4040007@tedworld.com> Tim: The problem with WeatherLink hanging is a problem with WeatherLink. The software is badly designed and built. This is something that Davis needs to fix. There is another way. I now use Wview and I no longer have these problems. So, good software does work properly and good software companies do take your calls and answer your emails. Your alternative is to choose a software that does work correctly. I would suggest that you take your frustration out on Davis. Davis are the only ones that can fix your WeatherLink problems. Also, I notice that you are sending data every 5 minutes. The guideline is every 10 minutes, and for you, at 3 minutes after the ten minute mark since your station ends in 3. Running every 5 minutes doubles you exposure to a hang. -Ted- Tim McManus wrote: > This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times > WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. > I could only collect three hours of data over the past two days > because of a down server. > > This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. > > We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of > the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the > situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. > > > -- > Tim McManus > tim.mcmanus at mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com Wed Aug 6 11:04:02 2008 From: gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com (Ted Lum) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:04:02 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Lightning protection In-Reply-To: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> References: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4899CB72.8010703@tedworld.com> The best possible solution is to use an RF link from the station. The second best solution is to use an "opto-isolator" on the serial port. They will give around 2 to 8kV of isolation. The worst thing you can do is use a typical surge suppressor. These mickey mouse devices shunt the surge to ground and often start fires in the process. -Ted- Robert Rogers wrote: > Hello all: > > I've been loosing computer serial ports after lighting storms... It > seems only to get the RX port on the serial port.... > > Anny suggestions... > > -- > Bob > n8fau15 at gmail.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deviant at deviant.org Wed Aug 6 12:03:04 2008 From: deviant at deviant.org (The Deviant) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:03:04 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Lightning protection In-Reply-To: <4899CB72.8010703@tedworld.com> References: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> <4899CB72.8010703@tedworld.com> Message-ID: Ted is correct, however, be certain either you either use a powered optoisolator, or make sure your equipment can drive a port-powered optoisolator. If anyone out there is using one, please let us know what one(s) you are using, and any issues (if any) you've had... - James CW: C9249 WU: KMODESOT1 On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Ted Lum wrote: > The best possible solution is to use an RF link from the station. > > The second best solution is to use an "opto-isolator" on the serial port. > They will give around 2 to 8kV of isolation. > > The worst thing you can do is use a typical surge suppressor. These mickey > mouse devices shunt the surge to ground and often start fires in the > process. > > -Ted- > > Robert Rogers wrote: > > Hello all: > > I've been loosing computer serial ports after lighting storms... It seems > only to get the RX port on the serial port.... > > Anny suggestions... > > -- > Bob > n8fau15 at gmail.com > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com Wed Aug 6 12:27:19 2008 From: gladstonefamily.net at tedworld.com (Ted Lum) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:27:19 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Lightning protection In-Reply-To: References: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> <4899CB72.8010703@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <4899DEF7.50706@tedworld.com> BlackBox is a reputable company that sells them. BlackBox is also very expensive. www.blackbox.com/files/productdetails/15619.PDF There are less costly models available and these are such simple devices that there are some people who sell them out of their home. Port power models will usually work. These rely on the computers serial port to power them. However a model with a separate external power supply is a better, though more costly, option. -Ted- The Deviant wrote: > Ted is correct, however, be certain either you either use a powered > optoisolator, or make sure your equipment can drive a port-powered > optoisolator. > > If anyone out there is using one, please let us know what one(s) you > are using, and any issues (if any) you've had... > > - > James > CW: C9249 > WU: KMODESOT1 > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Ted Lum > wrote: > >> The best possible solution is to use an RF link from the station. >> >> The second best solution is to use an "opto-isolator" on the serial port. >> They will give around 2 to 8kV of isolation. >> >> The worst thing you can do is use a typical surge suppressor. These mickey >> mouse devices shunt the surge to ground and often start fires in the >> process. >> >> -Ted- >> >> Robert Rogers wrote: >> >> Hello all: >> >> I've been loosing computer serial ports after lighting storms... It seems >> only to get the RX port on the serial port.... >> >> Anny suggestions... >> >> -- >> Bob >> n8fau15 at gmail.com >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > To search the archives: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Wed Aug 6 13:55:47 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:55:47 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <4899C58E.4040007@tedworld.com> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> <4899C58E.4040007@tedworld.com> Message-ID: <4899F3B3.4010601@tamu.edu> I'm on a conference call now for a "paying program" at work, but I'm going to chat with Davis about this today. I'm also taking some steps to mitigate downed servers. Work keeps getting in the way of my CWOP efforts, especially when I spend more than 24 consecutive hours on work... Still, I'm trying to fix things as server availability is a major issue for me. While we are discussing this. I have not recently discouraged 5-min updates on CWOP servers. The problem with 5-min updates derived from the massive surge in hits on the APRS-IS servers and some of the adjunctive software that has to live on those servers. CWOP servers are not using the same software suite as the APRS-IS servers, but are using the same core engine. I need to see if the core engine is capable of handling the 5-min updates. To that end, I've been following stability of the servers knowing we've a fair number using 5-min updates, even now. So far, so good. Before I tell everyone they can go back to 5-min updates (and create a mass panic about another config change, I've wanted to get the latest changes over and done with. We still have a significant number of users trying to hit the APRS servers using unverified connections. I owe Russ a list of all these as soon as possible to see if we can get things sorted out, but we see significant numbers of returned e-mail when we sent targeted messages to these folks in the past. SUMMARY: If you're running 5-min updates AND you're pointed at cwop.aprs.net, you do not have to stop sending them at this time. I don't think we're ready for a sudden transition, though. Instability on cwop2 has been a problem of late and we're actively investigating it. All three servers are well-configured systems in stable, datacenter environs. Software and configs are common across all three. That one is having problems is an interesting issue. I'm also looking at a load balancing solution that'd allow a single (or two) addresses in DNS but would have the load balancer looking at server health and availability. This is easy if all the servers are in one data center, not as easy if they're distributed across the country and beyond. Real work continues to get in the way of this effort, too. Hope this is useful. Gerry CWOP servers Ted Lum wrote: > Tim: > > The problem with WeatherLink hanging is a problem with WeatherLink. The > software is badly designed and built. This is something that Davis needs > to fix. > > There is another way. I now use Wview and I no longer have these > problems. So, good software does work properly and good software > companies do take your calls and answer your emails. Your alternative is > to choose a software that does work correctly. > > I would suggest that you take your frustration out on Davis. Davis are > the only ones that can fix your WeatherLink problems. > > Also, I notice that you are sending data every 5 minutes. The guideline > is every 10 minutes, and for you, at 3 minutes after the ten minute mark > since your station ends in 3. Running every 5 minutes doubles you > exposure to a hang. > > -Ted- > > Tim McManus wrote: >> This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times >> WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes down. >> I could only collect three hours of data over the past two days >> because of a down server. >> >> This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. >> >> We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of >> the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because the >> situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. >> >> >> -- >> Tim McManus >> tim.mcmanus at mac.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> To search the archives: >> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Wed Aug 6 17:22:15 2008 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:22:15 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CWOP Server Availability In-Reply-To: <4899F3B3.4010601@tamu.edu> References: <5BFEB49E-7853-4CBD-ABCB-410A2334035C@mac.com> <4899C58E.4040007@tedworld.com> <4899F3B3.4010601@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <489A2417.2030803@tamu.edu> I hate getting behind on e-mail but between a pop-up tropical cyclone that was little more than an named thunderstorm after landfall (despite our best predictions!), and hardware failures, thelast several days haven't been good for me. HOWEVER, they've been worse for the host of CWOP2, who's been off and on commercial power and battery backup, while being in a wildfire area. Among all that, they changed the server out because of intermittent performance (for the last month, CWOP2 has "only" provided 96.9% service). We're getting things normalized again but I ask for your patience. And I want to thank Jim Fuller and his crew personally for doing this when things have been so crazy for them over the last week. gerry Gerry Creager wrote: > I'm on a conference call now for a "paying program" at work, but I'm > going to chat with Davis about this today. I'm also taking some steps > to mitigate downed servers. Work keeps getting in the way of my CWOP > efforts, especially when I spend more than 24 consecutive hours on > work... Still, I'm trying to fix things as server availability is a > major issue for me. > > While we are discussing this. I have not recently discouraged 5-min > updates on CWOP servers. The problem with 5-min updates derived from the > massive surge in hits on the APRS-IS servers and some of the adjunctive > software that has to live on those servers. > > CWOP servers are not using the same software suite as the APRS-IS > servers, but are using the same core engine. I need to see if the core > engine is capable of handling the 5-min updates. To that end, I've been > following stability of the servers knowing we've a fair number using > 5-min updates, even now. So far, so good. > > Before I tell everyone they can go back to 5-min updates (and create a > mass panic about another config change, I've wanted to get the latest > changes over and done with. We still have a significant number of users > trying to hit the APRS servers using unverified connections. I owe Russ > a list of all these as soon as possible to see if we can get things > sorted out, but we see significant numbers of returned e-mail when we > sent targeted messages to these folks in the past. > > SUMMARY: If you're running 5-min updates AND you're pointed at > cwop.aprs.net, you do not have to stop sending them at this time. I > don't think we're ready for a sudden transition, though. > > Instability on cwop2 has been a problem of late and we're actively > investigating it. All three servers are well-configured systems in > stable, datacenter environs. Software and configs are common across all > three. That one is having problems is an interesting issue. > > I'm also looking at a load balancing solution that'd allow a single (or > two) addresses in DNS but would have the load balancer looking at server > health and availability. This is easy if all the servers are in one > data center, not as easy if they're distributed across the country and > beyond. Real work continues to get in the way of this effort, too. > > Hope this is useful. > Gerry > CWOP servers > > Ted Lum wrote: >> Tim: >> >> The problem with WeatherLink hanging is a problem with WeatherLink. >> The software is badly designed and built. This is something that Davis >> needs to fix. >> >> There is another way. I now use Wview and I no longer have these >> problems. So, good software does work properly and good software >> companies do take your calls and answer your emails. Your alternative >> is to choose a software that does work correctly. >> >> I would suggest that you take your frustration out on Davis. Davis are >> the only ones that can fix your WeatherLink problems. >> >> Also, I notice that you are sending data every 5 minutes. The >> guideline is every 10 minutes, and for you, at 3 minutes after the ten >> minute mark since your station ends in 3. Running every 5 minutes >> doubles you exposure to a hang. >> >> -Ted- >> >> Tim McManus wrote: >>> This is the worst I've ever seen it. I cannot count how many times >>> WeatherLink has locked up on me this year because a server goes >>> down. I could only collect three hours of data over the past two >>> days because of a down server. >>> >>> This became a problem once the CWOP servers were segregated out. >>> >>> We had a significant rain event this morning and I didn't sent any of >>> the data. I am very close to ceasing sending data to CWOP because >>> the situation is becoming intolerable. There's got to be a better way. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tim McManus >>> tim.mcmanus at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> To search the archives: >>> http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >> >> > -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From dmcintyre at att.net Wed Aug 6 18:33:52 2008 From: dmcintyre at att.net (Dexter McIntyre W4DEX) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:33:52 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Lightning protection In-Reply-To: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> References: <6acdf8650808060644q50d076dg888fd34e0d0c5924@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <489A34E0.8000802@att.net> Had the same to recently happen to AS618. Thought at first the Peet 2100 was the problem but was glad to find it was the receive on the serial port. Since this serial port card is in a server we didn't want to shut down we just added a usb to serial adapter for the weather station data. I will probably build a protector with back to back 30 volt zener diodes from the data pins to a good ground. Or I may consider buying a RS323 protector like this: http://www.bb-elec.com/bb-elec/literature/232SP9_4402.pdf Link to a build it yourself protector: http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/rs232_protector.html 73, Dexter, W4DEX Robert Rogers wrote: > Hello all: > > I've been loosing computer serial ports after lighting storms... It > seems only to get the RX port on the serial port.... > > Anny suggestions... > > -- > Bob > n8fau15 at gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ______________________________________