From cw8738 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  1 19:41:01 2008
From: cw8738 at yahoo.com (Brent Dowell)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] [C28738] Chasing Barometer Calculation
Message-ID: <530894.13848.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

So,  My Barometer calcs had been tracking fine for quite a while.  I hadn't even checked them for a while.  A couple of days ago I checked and the QC Check was giving me two thumbs down and indicating that I was consistently high...  Very consistently.

Weird, I thought.  But ok, for whatever reason, something happened.  Maybe my sensor, maybe a new station cropped up nearby.

So the last few days I've been trying to tweak my settings to get back on track.

I'm just wondering if it's worth it.  Should I just put it back to where it was?  

Should I keep trying to chase the analysis?

Thanks in advance for your advice.




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From philip at gladstonefamily.net  Tue Apr  1 20:31:26 2008
From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:31:26 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] [C28738] Chasing Barometer Calculation
In-Reply-To: <530894.13848.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <530894.13848.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47F2E1EE.8060309@gladstonefamily.net>

Brent

If you compare your readings with KRNO -- the nearest 'reliable' source, 
then it is a long way away from your readings, so I don't think that the 
'new station in your area' is the answer.

If you look at http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C8738?days=182 
then you can see that your pressure tracked nicely until early feb, when 
it started to diverge significantly. I have no idea what happened at 
that point. Maybe device failure. Maybe a temperature change where the 
pressure sensor is located, and it is more sensitive than it ought to be.

Philip

Brent Dowell wrote:
> So,  My Barometer calcs had been tracking fine for quite a while.  I 
> hadn't even checked them for a while.  A couple of days ago I checked 
> and the QC Check was giving me two thumbs down and indicating that I was 
> consistently high...  Very consistently.
> 
> Weird, I thought.  But ok, for whatever reason, something happened.  
> Maybe my sensor, maybe a new station cropped up nearby.
> 
> So the last few days I've been trying to tweak my settings to get back 
> on track.
> 
> I'm just wondering if it's worth it.  Should I just put it back to where 
> it was? 
> 
> Should I keep trying to chase the analysis?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
> 
> 
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From cw8738 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  1 22:06:03 2008
From: cw8738 at yahoo.com (Brent Dowell)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:06:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] [C28738] Chasing Barometer Calculation
Message-ID: <888242.99156.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Philip,

Thanks for the reply, and the tip to check against KRNO.

>From the graphs, it just looked to me like it had been consistently high since Feb.

With the WMR968, the pressure sensor is located inside, so maybe that's it. 

Heck, I never even look at the inside readings, so maybe I should put everything back to normal and stick the pressure sensor outside.

I think I'll just reset the offset I've been using, and put the pressure sensor outside and see what happens for a few days.

Thanks again!

Brent




----- Original Message ----
From: Philip Gladstone <philip at gladstonefamily.net>
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:31:26 PM
Subject: Re: [wxqc] [C28738] Chasing Barometer Calculation

Brent

If you compare your readings with KRNO -- the nearest 'reliable' source, 
then it is a long way away from your readings, so I don't think that the 
'new station in your area' is the answer.

If you look at http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C8738?days=182 
then you can see that your pressure tracked nicely until early feb, when 
it started to diverge significantly. I have no idea what happened at 
that point. Maybe device failure. Maybe a temperature change where the 
pressure sensor is located, and it is more sensitive than it ought to be.

Philip

Brent Dowell wrote:
> So,  My Barometer calcs had been tracking fine for quite a while.  I 
> hadn't even checked them for a while.  A couple of days ago I checked 
> and the QC Check was giving me two thumbs down and indicating that I was 
> consistently high...  Very consistently.
> 
> Weird, I thought.  But ok, for whatever reason, something happened.  
> Maybe my sensor, maybe a new station cropped up nearby.
> 
> So the last few days I've been trying to tweak my settings to get back 
> on track.
> 
> I'm just wondering if it's worth it.  Should I just put it back to where 
> it was? 
> 
> Should I keep trying to chase the analysis?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
> 
> 






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From kyrrin at bluefeathertech.com  Tue Apr  1 23:48:35 2008
From: kyrrin at bluefeathertech.com (Bruce Lane)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:48:35 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] AS712: Experiencing sensor problems
Message-ID: <200804012148350318.357935CE@192.168.42.129>

Fellow weather-watchers,

	I must apologize for the low quality of barometer and temp data from my station (AS712) over the past month or so. I've been tweaking calibration values all over the place, but I seem to be having little or no success correcting the problem.

	At this point, I'm suspecting sensor problems. I have contacted Rainwise support, and asked for warranty replacement of whatever parts will be needed to correct these issues.

	I will say that Rainwise recently sent me a replacement microcontroller, with updated station firmware, to correct a battery drain problem. The problems seem to have started within a week or two of my installing that chip, so I'm suspecting that there may have been other issues besides those associated with the battery.

	Please bear with me. I'm not sure how long it will take to get this corrected, but I'm not letting Rainwise worm out of their promised 5-year warranty even if I end up replacing the entire station! ;-)

	Thanks much.


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From SkyArcher at aol.com  Wed Apr  2 03:24:16 2008
From: SkyArcher at aol.com (SkyArcher at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 04:24:16 EDT
Subject: [wxqc] C4224 has had a similar problem...
Message-ID: <cd4.28f8b9c1.35249cb0@aol.com>

For some unknown reason, I have also had this recently happen as well. I am  
running Weatherlink 5.7.1 (Davis). If I reinstall the program and then  
re-configure that portion of the program going to CWOP, the data flow resumes. 
 
Al Mitleider 
C4224
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Wed Apr  2 08:46:46 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:46:46 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] C4224 has had a similar problem...
In-Reply-To: <cd4.28f8b9c1.35249cb0@aol.com>
References: <cd4.28f8b9c1.35249cb0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <47F38E46.6060607@tamu.edu>

Could you be a little more specific on what the problem was?

Thanks gerry

SkyArcher at aol.com wrote:
> For some unknown reason, I have also had this recently happen as well. I 
> am running Weatherlink 5.7.1 (Davis). If I reinstall the program and 
> then re-configure that portion of the program going to CWOP, the data 
> flow resumes.
>  
> Al Mitleider
> C4224
> Lutz, FL
> 
> 
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From mjkits at rit.edu  Wed Apr  2 09:11:22 2008
From: mjkits at rit.edu (Mark Kimble)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:11:22 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] precision, accuracy and statistics (oh My)
Message-ID: <6F61718F1AB1BC4486D7CA3429B3EDA3018788CF@svits26.main.ad.rit.edu>

HA.  I waited a long time to get a "weather station."  I'm not exactly
sure what the drive was, but it was always there.  I had to have one.
So finally I dropped down the bucks, took a few hours to install it  -
with its base station directly beneath my house's HVAC thermostat.  I
was immediately thrilled to actually KNOW the temp, wind, humidity, and
rainfall.  

 

Then I noticed that the indoor temperature reading was higher than the
house thermostat.  Having grown up with a father who kept our thermostat
OFF I was shocked that my house could be 68 degrees instead of the
luxurious 65 I keep it set at.  Shocked I tell you.  I mean, the new
"expensive" weather station MUST be the accurate temperature - right!?
So anyway, I started keeping paper records of temperature with four
different sensors and found that they actually tracked each other very
well with a total difference of 3 degrees.  Checking further I found
they all appeared to be operating within their particular specified
level of accuracy but I still had a problem.  I didn't know what the
temperature INSIDE my house was.

 

I started poking around the internet and found a site at an engineering
school that reminded me about precision and accuracy (and felt a little
better).  But then (after better than a week of obsessing with this) I
saw THIS on this same .edu site:  "Give a man a watch and he will always
know what time it is.  Give him two, and he'll never know for sure."  I
let out a deep sigh and gave up.

 

A few months later I registered my weather station with CWOP and within
a few days of QC I got the "dreaded" notice that my data (out door
temperature specifically) was "not within blah-blah-blah tolerances."  A
few minutes of examination I found that my outside temp TOO was about
three degrees above the three other temps I have around the yard.  

 

I made calibration changes to both my indoor and outdoor settings.  The
Davis Vantage Pro people may think I'm wrong to do it, but at least I'm
passing someone's scrutiny  (thanks, Philip et al)  But here's the
thing.  I still don't really know what the temperature is.  Sigh.

 

 

Mark Kimble

 

DW0129, KNYCHURC2 etc etc

 

 

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From jefcled at wildblue.net  Wed Apr  2 09:24:42 2008
From: jefcled at wildblue.net (Jeff Le Doux)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:24:42 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Dewpoint errors
Message-ID: <000601c894cd$67588480$6400a8c0@Godzilla>

 

In recent times I have been having some issues apparently with my Dewpoint
quality.  I am not sure why this is happening since I have been up and
running a La Crosse WS2308 for over 2 years with no problem there.  I have
had other problems with other parameters some due to solar heating with
temperature and others with pressure due to another station having issues.
Apparently there is a station affecting my readings for due point.  I
contacted them to no avail, and with no response.  Checking on the CWOP
information page for CW5246 I have 2 thumbs up and a green check right now,
yet I get the following notice:

   DATE     UTC   *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT *    DD    *    FF    

                  *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   (DEG)  *   (KNT)  

01-APR-2008 2042  *1004.(-0.3)*  42(2.34)*38.1(8.29)*   0(150.)*   0(1.23)

01-APR-2008 2101  *1003.(-0.7)*  42(3.12)*38.1(8.86)*   0(  13)*   0(0.39)

01-APR-2008 2119  *1003.(-0.4)*  42(3.12)*38.1(8.86)*   0(  13)*   0(0.39)

01-APR-2008 2128  *1003.(-0.4)*  43(2.12)*39.4(7.58)*   0(  13)*   0(0.39)

01-APR-2008 2146  *1003.(0.01)*  43(2.12)*39.7(7.29)*   0(  13)*   0(0.39)

01-APR-2008 2156  *1003.(-1.1)*  43(3.16)*  40(8.93)*   0(115.)*   0(1.76)

01-APR-2008 2214  *1002.(-0.8)*  42(3.07)*  39(9.91)*113.(39.9)*2.61(-0.8)

01-APR-2008 2232  *1002.(-0.8)*  43(3.16)*  40(8.93)*   0(118.)*   0(1.81)

01-APR-2008 2241  *1002.(-0.8)*  43(3.16)*  40(8.93)*   0(118.)*   0(1.81)

01-APR-2008 2251  *1002.(-0.9)*  42(4.72)*  39(9.45)*   0(174.)*   0(1.99)

01-APR-2008 Errs  *   0/93   *   0/93   *  12/93   *   0/93   *   0/93   

01-APR-2008 Smry  *-0.8(0.39)*0.79(1.12)*2.84( 2.8)*14.9(108.)*0.43(0.58)

Until I get some sort of response from AA1XD at yahoo.com indicating that he is
not my problem, or and indication from somewhere else that the problem is in
my station I am not going to make any changes.

Jeff Le Doux

CW5246

 

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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Thu Apr  3 12:37:38 2008
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:37:38 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Where Did This Bad Data Come From?
In-Reply-To: <6F61718F1AB1BC4486D7CA3429B3EDA3018788CF@svits26.main.ad.rit.edu>
References: <6F61718F1AB1BC4486D7CA3429B3EDA3018788CF@svits26.main.ad.rit.edu>
Message-ID: <00fe01c895b1$6a2ca580$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>

Noticed a recent spike in my graphs on FindU that does not show up locally 

Station: WX2CHS (AP536)...
 
It's a steady light rain and stagnant temp, so this anomoly was obvious:
 
Note the 20080403171815 observation
 
20080403173055  46  65  2.0  4.0 0.03 0.16 0.16 92 1010.7 
20080403172622  46  80  0.0  2.0 0.05 0.16 0.16 92 1010.9 
20080403172133  46  75  1.0  3.0 0.05 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0 
20080403171815  48  158  1.0  4.0 0.00 0.00 0.00 69 1016.8 
20080403171559  46  34  1.0  3.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0 
20080403171102  46  61  0.0  4.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0 
20080403170606  46  40  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.5 
20080403170103  46  79  0.0  3.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.2 
20080403165626  46  96  2.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1010.9 
20080403165107  46  92  2.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.1 
20080403164605  46  107  1.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.5 
20080403164137  46  96  1.0  3.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.6 
20080403163635  46  108  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.14 0.14 92 1011.9 
20080403163121  46  111  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.14 0.14 92 1011.5 

Now, when I view the raw data:
 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031646z3854.60N/09419.45W_107/001g004t046r007P
015p015h92b10115VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031651z3854.60N/09419.45W_092/002g004t046r007P
015p015h92b10111VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031656z3854.60N/09419.45W_096/002g004t046r007
P015p015h92b10109VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031701z3854.60N/09419.45W_079/000g003t046r007
P015p015h92b10112VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031706z3854.60N/09419.45W_040/001g004t046r006
P015p015h92b10115VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031711z3854.60N/09419.45W_061/000g004t046r006
P015p015h92b10110VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031716z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g003t046r006P
015p015h92b10110VL1112
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@030830z3854.60N/09419.45W_158/001g004t048r000P
000p000h69b10168VL1112
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031721z3854.60N/09419.45W_075/001g003t046r005
P015p015h92b10110VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031726z3854.60N/09419.45W_080/000g002t046r005
P016p016h92b10109VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-2:@031731z3854.60N/09419.45W_065/002g004t046r003
P016p016h92b10107VL1112 
 
Note the 4th from the bottom, there's an observation from 030830z. 
 
Where did that come from? Why does the graph and weather data link think
it's from 031718Z instead of the time included in the observation? Can
someone please purchase this from the system?
 
Evan
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Thu Apr  3 14:40:35 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:40:35 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Where Did This Bad Data Come From?
In-Reply-To: <00fe01c895b1$6a2ca580$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>
References: <6F61718F1AB1BC4486D7CA3429B3EDA3018788CF@svits26.main.ad.rit.edu>
	<00fe01c895b1$6a2ca580$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>
Message-ID: <47F532B3.8050202@tamu.edu>

Evan, I cannot speak to the cause of the long-delayed report, but it is 
timestamped when it hits the servers.  In the case cited, T2PSR somehow 
introduced old data... or incorrectly timestamped it.  I'll discuss this 
with the various involved folk in the server world.  The raw packet data 
  as seen on FindU display the data added by the server... in this case 
T2PSR.

Regardless of when your console might timestamp a packet, the system is 
going to relabel it with a time-received-on-the-server timestamp.  This 
is a protocol legacy issue.

ON another issue though:  WX2CHS is an Amateur Radio station.  If you 
want it to be seen on local tactical displays, please make sure you're 
using either rotate.aprs.net or rotate.aprs2.net.  If you do not want it 
available to the ham community for tactical display then using 
cwop.aprs.net is appropriate.

Switching between the two types of rotate DNS entry-sets will result in 
schizophrenia with regard to local Amateur Radio tactical displays... 
but will not adversely affect (we believe) CWOP's pickup of the data. 
The gotcha is when we see something like this.

gerry

Evan Bookbinder wrote:
> Noticed a recent spike in my graphs on FindU that does not show up locally
> 
> Station: WX2CHS (AP536)...
>  
> It's a steady light rain and stagnant temp, so this anomoly was obvious:
>  
> Note the 20080403171815 observation
>  
> 20080403173055  46  65  2.0  4.0 0.03 0.16 0.16 92 1010.7
> 20080403172622  46  80  0.0  2.0 0.05 0.16 0.16 92 1010.9
> 20080403172133  46  75  1.0  3.0 0.05 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0
> 20080403171815  48  158  1.0  4.0 0.00 0.00 0.00 69 1016.8
> 20080403171559  46  34  1.0  3.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0
> 20080403171102  46  61  0.0  4.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.0
> 20080403170606  46  40  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.15 0.15 92 1011.5
> 20080403170103  46  79  0.0  3.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.2
> 20080403165626  46  96  2.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1010.9
> 20080403165107  46  92  2.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.1
> 20080403164605  46  107  1.0  4.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.5
> 20080403164137  46  96  1.0  3.0 0.07 0.15 0.15 92 1011.6
> 20080403163635  46  108  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.14 0.14 92 1011.9
> 20080403163121  46  111  1.0  4.0 0.06 0.14 0.14 92 1011.5
> Now, when I view the raw data:
>  
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031646z3854.60N/09419.45W_107/001g004t046r007P015p015h92b10115VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031651z3854.60N/09419.45W_092/002g004t046r007P015p015h92b10111VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031656z3854.60N/09419.45W_096/002g004t046r007P015p015h92b10109VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031701z3854.60N/09419.45W_079/000g003t046r007P015p015h92b10112VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031706z3854.60N/09419.45W_040/001g004t046r006P015p015h92b10115VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031711z3854.60N/09419.45W_061/000g004t046r006P015p015h92b10110VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@031716z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g003t046r006P015p015h92b10110VL1112
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@030830z3854.60N/09419.45W_158/001g004t048r000P000p000h69b10168VL1112
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@031721z3854.60N/09419.45W_075/001g003t046r005P015p015h92b10110VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@031726z3854.60N/09419.45W_080/000g002t046r005P016p016h92b10109VL1112 
> 
> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-2:@031731z3854.60N/09419.45W_065/002g004t046r003P016p016h92b10107VL1112 
> 
>  
> Note the 4th from the bottom, there's an observation from 030830z.
>  
> Where did that come from? Why does the graph and weather data link think 
> it's from 031718Z instead of the time included in the observation? Can 
> someone please purchase this from the system?
>  
> Evan
> 
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From eholmes at aeneas.net  Sat Apr  5 07:40:51 2008
From: eholmes at aeneas.net (Eddie Holmes)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:40:51 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] No Data Received
Message-ID: <000c01c8971a$48ac62a0$0201a8c0@EDDIESPC>

Today marks the second time this week that data is not reaching the server.
On 4/3 it was interrupted for several hours.  I did nothing and it resumed.
Today at the time of writing I?m into 4 hours of interrupted data getting to
the server.  I?ve checked all settings to make sure everything on my end is
correct.  It appears to be.  

 

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Thanks for your help in advance! 

 

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From: ed at gilbertazwx.com (ed at gilbertazwx.com)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:48:38 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] No Data Received
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sat Apr  5 10:38:54 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:38:54 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] No Data Received
In-Reply-To: <20080405074838.4dc4e85d122b6a01777bd2b343ee229e.cfdc59654e.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
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Investigating the problem with cwop-2 now.  What is the latest version 
of WL?

Also, please send me (off-list) the result from a command line of:
nslookup cwop.aprs.net

gerry

ed at gilbertazwx.com wrote:
> I experienced the same issue. From what I see, it wasn't anything we 
> have done. It appears that the CWOP-2 was down again. You can check the 
> server status at this page <http://www.wxqa.com/checkservers2.html>. I'm 
> sure the sysops will be able to supply a better answer.
> 
> The part I find interesting is that even though my WeatherLink 5.8.0 
> settings are configured to upload the APRS report data every 10 minutes 
> to cwop.aprs.net:14580 <http://cwop.aprs.net:14580>, I almost always 
> (about 99% of the time) seem to post to CWOP-2. When that server goes 
> down (and I receive a no socket error), I do not rotate to any other 
> server. I hope this helps.
> 
> Gerry, let me know if you need any further info for diagnosing.
> 
> Ed Taggard
> CW6490 (CWOP)
> KAZGILBE7 (Weather Underground)
> <http://www.gilbertazwx.com>www.gilbertazwx.com <http://www.gilbertazwx.com>
> 
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: [wxqc] No Data Received
>     From: "Eddie Holmes" <eholmes at aeneas.net>
>     Date: Sat, April 05, 2008 5:40 am
>     To: <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily <mailto:wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily>.net>
> 
>     Today marks the second time this week that data is not reaching the
>     server.  On 4/3 it was interrupted for several hours.  I did nothing
>     and it resumed.  Today at the time of writing I?m into 4 hours of
>     interrupted data getting to the server.  I?ve checked all settings
>     to make sure everything on my end is correct.  It appears to be. 
>      
>     <http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199>htt
>     p://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199
>     <http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199>
>      
>     Thanks for your help in advance!
>      
>     Eddie Holmes
>     Cw4199
>      
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From m.c.crockett at roadrunner.com  Sat Apr  5 12:42:43 2008
From: m.c.crockett at roadrunner.com (Merton Campbell Crockett)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:42:43 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] How are Station Analysis Graphs Derived?
Message-ID: <37D3349B-862D-43DC-BC0D-9898A044DC6E@roadrunner.com>

I received a Davis Vantage Pro2 for Christmas and began reporting  
weather observations to CWOP in late January.  I am still trying to  
understand the quality control information that is being presented.

The quality control link on a weather station's findu web page takes  
you to a page that displays charts for barometric pressure,  
temperature, dew point, and relative humidity.  Each of the charts  
contains a graph of the weather station's observations in blue and a  
station analysis graph in red.

How are the station analysis graphs derived?

Are they based on regional- or meso- weather models?  Are they based  
on some sliding average of observations reported by the weather  
station or by a group of nearby weather stations?

At one point, I thought a model was being used based on astronomical  
sunrise as the station analysis showed rising temperatures two hours  
before direct sunlight would start heating the ground at approximately  
0830 in the morning.  Recently, however, the station analysis graph  
has become more accurate and this has piqued my curiosity about how  
the graphs are derived.

Merton Campbell Crockett
m.c.crockett at roadrunner.com




From rboelling at sunflower.com  Sat Apr  5 19:14:42 2008
From: rboelling at sunflower.com (Ross Boelling)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:14:42 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1207099891.3075.wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Message-ID: <000001c8977b$36757ca0$6401a8c0@ross8cee5fd37c>

Help.... CW2795... 
Problems uploading today..
4/5 0327AM (cdt) -- uploaded OK
4/5 0357AM  -- 'error logging on to APRS host
4/5 0407 AM -- 'error opening APRS socket... same error thru
4/5 0357 PM uploaded OK
4/5 0407PM -- 'error opening APRS socket..  
rebooted software at 0645pm... 
same error since... 
I have been posting just fine to wunderground all day.. 
Is there a problem with the APRS-2? Which is where my data routinely goes...

I've got my davis 5.8 set up to CWOP.ARPS.net with correct port and nothing
else has changed on my computer or my configuration recently..
Suggestions??
Thanks
Ross Boelling 
Tonganoxie, KS CW2795

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From mitch56329 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  5 19:56:45 2008
From: mitch56329 at yahoo.com (Mitch Morberg)
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <000001c8977b$36757ca0$6401a8c0@ross8cee5fd37c>
Message-ID: <705391.49660.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ross,

CWOP2 has been down for what looks like a half day so far. I would switch to cwop1.tamu.edu
My ISP DNS lookup always points to CWOP2 so I upload to cwop1.tamu.edu If this is the case for you
thats probably why you are not able to upload.

Mitch CW0288

--- Ross Boelling <rboelling at sunflower.com> wrote:

> Help.... CW2795... 
> Problems uploading today..
> 4/5 0327AM (cdt) -- uploaded OK
> 4/5 0357AM  -- 'error logging on to APRS host
> 4/5 0407 AM -- 'error opening APRS socket... same error thru
> 4/5 0357 PM uploaded OK
> 4/5 0407PM -- 'error opening APRS socket..  
> rebooted software at 0645pm... 
> same error since... 
> I have been posting just fine to wunderground all day.. 
> Is there a problem with the APRS-2? Which is where my data routinely goes...
> 
> I've got my davis 5.8 set up to CWOP.ARPS.net with correct port and nothing
> else has changed on my computer or my configuration recently..
> Suggestions??
> Thanks
> Ross Boelling 
> Tonganoxie, KS CW2795
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sat Apr  5 21:46:53 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:46:53 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <000001c8977b$36757ca0$6401a8c0@ross8cee5fd37c>
References: <000001c8977b$36757ca0$6401a8c0@ross8cee5fd37c>
Message-ID: <47F8399D.9030606@tamu.edu>

There is a problem with cwop-2 and we're pulling it out of the rotation. 
  I'm troubleshooting things now.

gerry

Ross Boelling wrote:
> Help.... CW2795... 
> Problems uploading today..
> 4/5 0327AM (cdt) -- uploaded OK
> 4/5 0357AM  -- 'error logging on to APRS host
> 4/5 0407 AM -- 'error opening APRS socket... same error thru
> 4/5 0357 PM uploaded OK
> 4/5 0407PM -- 'error opening APRS socket..  
> rebooted software at 0645pm... 
> same error since... 
> I have been posting just fine to wunderground all day.. 
> Is there a problem with the APRS-2? Which is where my data routinely goes...
> 
> I've got my davis 5.8 set up to CWOP.ARPS.net with correct port and nothing
> else has changed on my computer or my configuration recently..
> Suggestions??
> Thanks
> Ross Boelling 
> Tonganoxie, KS CW2795
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From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com  Sat Apr  5 21:53:50 2008
From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:53:50 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
Message-ID: <F84ED903CE6E4B51832A9DDB0ED8D7F9@sauron>


...is Sunshine in watts/m^2?

Will this see some use someday?


Keith
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sat Apr  5 21:58:50 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:58:50 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <705391.49660.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <705391.49660.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47F83C6A.4030507@tamu.edu>

All,

We had a problem on cwop-2 today.  I've removed the server from the 
rotation, but it appears that DNS anomalies around the net are causing 
problems therein.

I'm now investigating some server-based redistribution mechanisms 
besides/beyond round-robin DNS.  More as that develops.

If you must hard-code specific addresses, feel free to use 
cwop1.tamu.edu (cwop-1) and sip-tssg.org (cwop-3).  cwop.fuller.net 
(cwop-2) will be back when we can figure out what happened.  A key 
suspect is Sun's latest version of Java...

gerry

Mitch Morberg wrote:
> Ross,
> 
> CWOP2 has been down for what looks like a half day so far. I would switch to cwop1.tamu.edu
> My ISP DNS lookup always points to CWOP2 so I upload to cwop1.tamu.edu If this is the case for you
> thats probably why you are not able to upload.
> 
> Mitch CW0288
> 
> --- Ross Boelling <rboelling at sunflower.com> wrote:
> 
>> Help.... CW2795... 
>> Problems uploading today..
>> 4/5 0327AM (cdt) -- uploaded OK
>> 4/5 0357AM  -- 'error logging on to APRS host
>> 4/5 0407 AM -- 'error opening APRS socket... same error thru
>> 4/5 0357 PM uploaded OK
>> 4/5 0407PM -- 'error opening APRS socket..  
>> rebooted software at 0645pm... 
>> same error since... 
>> I have been posting just fine to wunderground all day.. 
>> Is there a problem with the APRS-2? Which is where my data routinely goes...
>>
>> I've got my davis 5.8 set up to CWOP.ARPS.net with correct port and nothing
>> else has changed on my computer or my configuration recently..
>> Suggestions??
>> Thanks
>> Ross Boelling 
>> Tonganoxie, KS CW2795
>>
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From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov  Sun Apr  6 11:22:29 2008
From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:22:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
Message-ID: <caf88cbd93.cbd93caf88@noaa.gov>

Hi Keith,

The L and l parameters (solar insolation) provided for in the APRS
weather format and used by some weather stations is currently not stored
in the findU database (through which all CWOP data flows).  Currently,
only a small number of CWOP stations provide this information and to
include it in the findU database for only a small amount of data does
not seem worthwhile.  If and/or when more of this type of data is
available from CWOP stations, it might be included in findU and then
would be available to MADIS.  

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Miller <kdmiller at oldsgmail.com>
Date: Sunday, April 6, 2008 2:53 am
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...

> 
> ...is Sunshine in watts/m^2?
> 
> Will this see some use someday?
> 
> 
> Keith
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From mitch56329 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  6 19:04:44 2008
From: mitch56329 at yahoo.com (Mitch Morberg)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:04:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] Server Time Stamp
In-Reply-To: <47F83C6A.4030507@tamu.edu>
Message-ID: <911481.53209.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Gerry,

The time stamps from the server suddenly have strayed from the original time received. 062041z was
the last correct time stamp. I am still uploading at 11,26,41 & 56 minutes past the hour. 

See Below,

CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061811z4554.10N/09351.02W_084/007g014t045r002p012P012b10060h82.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061826z4554.10N/09351.02W_086/007g013t044r003p013P013b10059h87.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061841z4554.10N/09351.02W_083/009g015t043r005p015P015b10058h89.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061856z4554.10N/09351.02W_104/012g018t042r006p017P017b10059h92.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061911z4554.10N/09351.02W_088/013g020t042r008p020P020b10056h95.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061926z4554.10N/09351.02W_096/014g021t041r008p021P021b10056h95.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061941z4554.10N/09351.02W_081/010g017t041r009p024P024b10053h96.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061956z4554.10N/09351.02W_074/007g018t040r009p026P026b10052h96.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062011z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/012g016t039r007p027P027b10048h97.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062026z4554.10N/09351.02W_105/012g017t039r007p028P028b10050h97.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062041z4554.10N/09351.02W_082/011g016t039r004p028P028b10052h97.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062058z4554.10N/09351.02W_077/009g012t039r003p028P028b10052h97.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062118z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/007g013t039r003p030P030b10051h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062128z4554.10N/09351.02W_051/007g014t039r005p032P032b10051h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062148z4554.10N/09351.02W_057/006g013t038r008p036P036b10049h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062158z4554.10N/09351.02W_060/009g015t038r010p038P038b10049h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062218z4554.10N/09351.02W_029/009g016t038r013p043P043b10048h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062228z4554.10N/09351.02W_055/006g015t037r013p045P045b10049h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062248z4554.10N/09351.02W_022/007g013t037r012p048P048b10049h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062258z4554.10N/09351.02W_043/010g014t037r012p050P050b10047h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062318z4554.10N/09351.02W_355/010g016t036r009p052P052b10048h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062328z4554.10N/09351.02W_039/014g018t035r008p053P053b10048h99.WD
31
CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062348z4554.10N/09351.02W_048/010g018t035r007p055P055b10048h99.WD
31

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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sun Apr  6 20:26:32 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:26:32 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Server Time Stamp
In-Reply-To: <911481.53209.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <911481.53209.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47F97848.5060206@tamu.edu>

Mitch, thanks for the heads-up.  I'm checking.

Gerry

Mitch Morberg wrote:
> Gerry,
> 
> The time stamps from the server suddenly have strayed from the original time received. 062041z was
> the last correct time stamp. I am still uploading at 11,26,41 & 56 minutes past the hour. 
> 
> See Below,
> 
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061811z4554.10N/09351.02W_084/007g014t045r002p012P012b10060h82.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061826z4554.10N/09351.02W_086/007g013t044r003p013P013b10059h87.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061841z4554.10N/09351.02W_083/009g015t043r005p015P015b10058h89.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061856z4554.10N/09351.02W_104/012g018t042r006p017P017b10059h92.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061911z4554.10N/09351.02W_088/013g020t042r008p020P020b10056h95.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061926z4554.10N/09351.02W_096/014g021t041r008p021P021b10056h95.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061941z4554.10N/09351.02W_081/010g017t041r009p024P024b10053h96.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061956z4554.10N/09351.02W_074/007g018t040r009p026P026b10052h96.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062011z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/012g016t039r007p027P027b10048h97.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062026z4554.10N/09351.02W_105/012g017t039r007p028P028b10050h97.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062041z4554.10N/09351.02W_082/011g016t039r004p028P028b10052h97.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062058z4554.10N/09351.02W_077/009g012t039r003p028P028b10052h97.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062118z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/007g013t039r003p030P030b10051h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062128z4554.10N/09351.02W_051/007g014t039r005p032P032b10051h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062148z4554.10N/09351.02W_057/006g013t038r008p036P036b10049h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062158z4554.10N/09351.02W_060/009g015t038r010p038P038b10049h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062218z4554.10N/09351.02W_029/009g016t038r013p043P043b10048h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062228z4554.10N/09351.02W_055/006g015t037r013p045P045b10049h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062248z4554.10N/09351.02W_022/007g013t037r012p048P048b10049h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062258z4554.10N/09351.02W_043/010g014t037r012p050P050b10047h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062318z4554.10N/09351.02W_355/010g016t036r009p052P052b10048h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062328z4554.10N/09351.02W_039/014g018t035r008p053P053b10048h99.WD
> 31
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062348z4554.10N/09351.02W_048/010g018t035r007p055P055b10048h99.WD
> 31
> 
> Mitch CW0288
> 
> 
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> http://www.mlmweather.com
> 
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From mitch56329 at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  6 21:33:53 2008
From: mitch56329 at yahoo.com (Mitch Morberg)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] Server Time Stamp
In-Reply-To: <47F97848.5060206@tamu.edu>
Message-ID: <787285.26628.qm@web50105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Gerry,

( False alarm ) I installed the latest version of WD which was ignoring my set upload times. I
reinstalled 10.37c all is normal now.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Mitch CW0288 

--- Gerry Creager <gerry.creager at tamu.edu> wrote:

> Mitch, thanks for the heads-up.  I'm checking.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> Mitch Morberg wrote:
> > Gerry,
> > 
> > The time stamps from the server suddenly have strayed from the original time received. 062041z
> was
> > the last correct time stamp. I am still uploading at 11,26,41 & 56 minutes past the hour. 
> > 
> > See Below,
> > 
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061811z4554.10N/09351.02W_084/007g014t045r002p012P012b10060h82.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061826z4554.10N/09351.02W_086/007g013t044r003p013P013b10059h87.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061841z4554.10N/09351.02W_083/009g015t043r005p015P015b10058h89.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061856z4554.10N/09351.02W_104/012g018t042r006p017P017b10059h92.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061911z4554.10N/09351.02W_088/013g020t042r008p020P020b10056h95.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061926z4554.10N/09351.02W_096/014g021t041r008p021P021b10056h95.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061941z4554.10N/09351.02W_081/010g017t041r009p024P024b10053h96.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061956z4554.10N/09351.02W_074/007g018t040r009p026P026b10052h96.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062011z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/012g016t039r007p027P027b10048h97.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062026z4554.10N/09351.02W_105/012g017t039r007p028P028b10050h97.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062041z4554.10N/09351.02W_082/011g016t039r004p028P028b10052h97.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062058z4554.10N/09351.02W_077/009g012t039r003p028P028b10052h97.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062118z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/007g013t039r003p030P030b10051h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062128z4554.10N/09351.02W_051/007g014t039r005p032P032b10051h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062148z4554.10N/09351.02W_057/006g013t038r008p036P036b10049h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062158z4554.10N/09351.02W_060/009g015t038r010p038P038b10049h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062218z4554.10N/09351.02W_029/009g016t038r013p043P043b10048h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062228z4554.10N/09351.02W_055/006g015t037r013p045P045b10049h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062248z4554.10N/09351.02W_022/007g013t037r012p048P048b10049h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062258z4554.10N/09351.02W_043/010g014t037r012p050P050b10047h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062318z4554.10N/09351.02W_355/010g016t036r009p052P052b10048h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062328z4554.10N/09351.02W_039/014g018t035r008p053P053b10048h99.WD
> > 31
> >
> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062348z4554.10N/09351.02W_048/010g018t035r007p055P055b10048h99.WD
> > 31
> > 
> > Mitch CW0288
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sun Apr  6 22:57:44 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:57:44 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Server Time Stamp
In-Reply-To: <787285.26628.qm@web50105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <787285.26628.qm@web50105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47F99BB8.3070303@tamu.edu>

Glad you got it fixed.  If it's any help, I did an OS update here the 
other day on Linux and all of a sudden, WView wouldn't work.  I had to 
recompile it and radlib to make 'em happy, because so many of the shared 
libraries had been updated and the old ones were gone...

I thought I'd lost my mind.

gerry

Mitch Morberg wrote:
> Gerry,
> 
> ( False alarm ) I installed the latest version of WD which was ignoring my set upload times. I
> reinstalled 10.37c all is normal now.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> Mitch CW0288 
> 
> --- Gerry Creager <gerry.creager at tamu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Mitch, thanks for the heads-up.  I'm checking.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> Mitch Morberg wrote:
>>> Gerry,
>>>
>>> The time stamps from the server suddenly have strayed from the original time received. 062041z
>> was
>>> the last correct time stamp. I am still uploading at 11,26,41 & 56 minutes past the hour. 
>>>
>>> See Below,
>>>
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061811z4554.10N/09351.02W_084/007g014t045r002p012P012b10060h82.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061826z4554.10N/09351.02W_086/007g013t044r003p013P013b10059h87.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061841z4554.10N/09351.02W_083/009g015t043r005p015P015b10058h89.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061856z4554.10N/09351.02W_104/012g018t042r006p017P017b10059h92.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061911z4554.10N/09351.02W_088/013g020t042r008p020P020b10056h95.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061926z4554.10N/09351.02W_096/014g021t041r008p021P021b10056h95.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061941z4554.10N/09351.02W_081/010g017t041r009p024P024b10053h96.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@061956z4554.10N/09351.02W_074/007g018t040r009p026P026b10052h96.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062011z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/012g016t039r007p027P027b10048h97.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062026z4554.10N/09351.02W_105/012g017t039r007p028P028b10050h97.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062041z4554.10N/09351.02W_082/011g016t039r004p028P028b10052h97.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062058z4554.10N/09351.02W_077/009g012t039r003p028P028b10052h97.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062118z4554.10N/09351.02W_064/007g013t039r003p030P030b10051h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062128z4554.10N/09351.02W_051/007g014t039r005p032P032b10051h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062148z4554.10N/09351.02W_057/006g013t038r008p036P036b10049h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062158z4554.10N/09351.02W_060/009g015t038r010p038P038b10049h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062218z4554.10N/09351.02W_029/009g016t038r013p043P043b10048h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062228z4554.10N/09351.02W_055/006g015t037r013p045P045b10049h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062248z4554.10N/09351.02W_022/007g013t037r012p048P048b10049h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062258z4554.10N/09351.02W_043/010g014t037r012p050P050b10047h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062318z4554.10N/09351.02W_355/010g016t036r009p052P052b10048h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062328z4554.10N/09351.02W_039/014g018t035r008p053P053b10048h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
>> CW0288>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@062348z4554.10N/09351.02W_048/010g018t035r007p055P055b10048h99.WD
>>> 31
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com  Sun Apr  6 23:11:01 2008
From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:11:01 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
In-Reply-To: <caf88cbd93.cbd93caf88@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <EB5EADEF57FB4AC49E7471E779565C4B@sauron>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of
> Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:22 PM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
> Subject: Re: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
> 
 > 

> The L and l parameters (solar insolation) provided for in the APRS
> weather format and used by some weather stations is currently 
> not stored in the findU database (through which all CWOP data
> flows).  Currently, only a small number of CWOP stations provide
> this information and to include it in the findU database for only
> a small amount of data does not seem worthwhile.  If and/or when
> more of this type of data is available from CWOP stations, it
> might be included in findU and then would be available to MADIS.
>

Thanks, I didn't see those in the FAQ and just did a software
version update, and noticed that was now there. I've seen some
attempts to use that to estimate cloud cover, so I was wondering.


Keith
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Sun Apr  6 23:23:19 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:23:19 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
In-Reply-To: <EB5EADEF57FB4AC49E7471E779565C4B@sauron>
References: <EB5EADEF57FB4AC49E7471E779565C4B@sauron>
Message-ID: <47F9A1B7.3080801@tamu.edu>

I'm actually interested in the inverse problem: With a satellite-based 
estimate of cloud cover (combined infrared, water vapor radiometry, and 
possibly some surrogate direct/diffuse solar by means of a separate 
temperature channel.

Several of us think we can then estimate evaptranspiration using a 
modified method...

gerry

Keith Miller wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of
>> Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov
>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:22 PM
>> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
>> Subject: Re: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
>>
>  > 
> 
>> The L and l parameters (solar insolation) provided for in the APRS
>> weather format and used by some weather stations is currently 
>> not stored in the findU database (through which all CWOP data
>> flows).  Currently, only a small number of CWOP stations provide
>> this information and to include it in the findU database for only
>> a small amount of data does not seem worthwhile.  If and/or when
>> more of this type of data is available from CWOP stations, it
>> might be included in findU and then would be available to MADIS.
>>
> 
> Thanks, I didn't see those in the FAQ and just did a software
> version update, and noticed that was now there. I've seen some
> attempts to use that to estimate cloud cover, so I was wondering.
> 
> 
> Keith
> --
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> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250
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From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com  Sun Apr  6 23:35:06 2008
From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:35:06 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
In-Reply-To: <47F9A1B7.3080801@tamu.edu>
Message-ID: <F2C4246C4ED2460BB57D78579245229F@sauron>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Gerry
> Creager
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:23 AM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
> Subject: Re: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
> 
> 
> I'm actually interested in the inverse problem: With a 
> satellite-based estimate of cloud cover (combined infrared,
> water vapor radiometry, and possibly some surrogate
> direct/diffuse solar by means of a separate temperature channel.
> 
> Several of us think we can then estimate evaptranspiration using a 
> modified method...
> 

I'm already generating a Evapotranspiration number...


Keith
--
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http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250


From edith.thornburg at verizon.net  Mon Apr  7 06:47:49 2008
From: edith.thornburg at verizon.net (Edith)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:47:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [wxqc] FindU
Message-ID: <12993464.2817901207568869422.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net>

I am not near my home computer, so can not check out what is going on, but when I check FindU from here, I keep getting error messages similar to "Last report from cw5985 received 1 hours 2 minutes 25 seconds ago."  It was over two hours yesterday when I had a chance to look.
At weatherunderground, however, I am still using rapid fire and updating every few seconds.  And, If I check back in a few hours, it will be fine.
I was going crazy, thinking it is me and there should be something I can do...

Edith
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw5985

From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Mon Apr  7 07:28:14 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:28:14 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
In-Reply-To: <F2C4246C4ED2460BB57D78579245229F@sauron>
References: <F2C4246C4ED2460BB57D78579245229F@sauron>
Message-ID: <47FA135E.5070202@tamu.edu>

There's still value in being able to estimate ET across large areas 
where direct and diffuse solar data are not available.  That's the 
problem I'm looking at.

gerry

Keith Miller wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Gerry
>> Creager
>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:23 AM
>> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
>> Subject: Re: [wxqc] L in APRS packet...
>>
>>
>> I'm actually interested in the inverse problem: With a 
>> satellite-based estimate of cloud cover (combined infrared,
>> water vapor radiometry, and possibly some surrogate
>> direct/diffuse solar by means of a separate temperature channel.
>>
>> Several of us think we can then estimate evaptranspiration using a 
>> modified method...
>>
> 
> I'm already generating a Evapotranspiration number...
> 
> 
> Keith
> --
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> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Mon Apr  7 08:27:48 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:27:48 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] FindU
In-Reply-To: <12993464.2817901207568869422.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <12993464.2817901207568869422.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <47FA2154.4070408@tamu.edu>

I'm seeing problems again this morning with cwop-2 and am working to 
resolve the issue.

This points again to potential problems with software not rotating 
appropriately when a failure to connect occurs.

gerry

Edith wrote:
> I am not near my home computer, so can not check out what is going on, but when I check FindU from here, I keep getting error messages similar to "Last report from cw5985 received 1 hours 2 minutes 25 seconds ago."  It was over two hours yesterday when I had a chance to look.
> At weatherunderground, however, I am still using rapid fire and updating every few seconds.  And, If I check back in a few hours, it will be fine.
> I was going crazy, thinking it is me and there should be something I can do...
> 
> Edith
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw5985
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From tim.mcmanus at mac.com  Mon Apr  7 09:22:33 2008
From: tim.mcmanus at mac.com (tim.mcmanus at mac.com)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:22:33 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] WL 5.7.1 locking up sending data to APRS
Message-ID: <F7FC6E77-2735-4134-A23B-D2CFB8C92A31@mac.com>

I am having a problem with WL 5.7.1 locking up when it's sending data  
to APRS.  It's not consistent and only happens in the early morning  
(12AM ET - 3AM ET).  It's only happened twice this weekend.  WL  
freezes on the Sending Data window right at APRS.  I need to force WL  
to quit because the app isn't responsive.

My settings are:

	Call sign:		CW4023
	Server/port:		cwop.aprs.net:14580
	Password:		-1 vers WL 5.7.1

Pretty simple.  Because the logs generated by WL are useless for  
troubleshooting, I can't offer anything more.  It's been working fine  
for years up until I changed the server I sent to (beginning of March  
I think).

I've made no changes to my router (Netgear FVS318) or the PC my  
weather station is connected to (IBM T41, WinXP w/all current updates).

Thoughts?

--
Tim McManus
tim.mcmanus at mac.com




From chinohillswx at verizon.net  Mon Apr  7 11:36:42 2008
From: chinohillswx at verizon.net (chinohillswx at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:36:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [wxqc] WL 5.7.1 locking up sending data to APRS
Message-ID: <7929049.1980461207586202324.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net>

I have that problem so I updated the firmware and software, (which I though was suppose to fix the problem) to the latest and still have the problem.  Its intermitten.  It can go 2 weeks and not happen but then it can happen twice within the hour.

LeRoy
CW4803


From: tim.mcmanus at mac.com
Date: 2008/04/07 Mon AM 09:22:33 CDT
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] WL 5.7.1 locking up sending data to APRS

I am having a problem with WL 5.7.1 locking up when it's sending data  
to APRS.  It's not consistent and only happens in the early morning  
(12AM ET - 3AM ET).  It's only happened twice this weekend.  WL  
freezes on the Sending Data window right at APRS.  I need to force WL  
to quit because the app isn't responsive.

My settings are:

	Call sign:		CW4023
	Server/port:		cwop.aprs.net:14580
	Password:		-1 vers WL 5.7.1

Pretty simple.  Because the logs generated by WL are useless for  
troubleshooting, I can't offer anything more.  It's been working fine  
for years up until I changed the server I sent to (beginning of March  
I think).

I've made no changes to my router (Netgear FVS318) or the PC my  
weather station is connected to (IBM T41, WinXP w/all current updates).

Thoughts?

--
Tim McManus
tim.mcmanus at mac.com



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From cmowen at att.net  Mon Apr  7 13:27:12 2008
From: cmowen at att.net (cmowen at att.net)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:27:12 +0000
Subject: [wxqc] WL 5.7.1 locking up sending data to APRS
In-Reply-To: <F7FC6E77-2735-4134-A23B-D2CFB8C92A31@mac.com>
Message-ID: <040720081827.24799.47FA67800002E904000060DF22230647029B0A02D29B9B0EBF020A9901030C@att.net>

I too had this problem at 4:40 AM friday and 2:20 AM Saturday.
-------------- Original message from tim.mcmanus at mac.com: -------------- 


> I am having a problem with WL 5.7.1 locking up when it's sending data 
> to APRS. It's not consistent and only happens in the early morning 
> (12AM ET - 3AM ET). It's only happened twice this weekend. WL 
> freezes on the Sending Data window right at APRS. I need to force WL 
> to quit because the app isn't responsive. 
> 
> My settings are: 
> 
> Call sign: CW4023 
> Server/port: cwop.aprs.net:14580 
> Password: -1 vers WL 5.7.1 
> 
> Pretty simple. Because the logs generated by WL are useless for 
> troubleshooting, I can't offer anything more. It's been working fine 
> for years up until I changed the server I sent to (beginning of March 
> I think). 
> 
> I've made no changes to my router (Netgear FVS318) or the PC my 
> weather station is connected to (IBM T41, WinXP w/all current updates). 
> 
> Thoughts? 
> 
> -- 
> Tim McManus 
> tim.mcmanus at mac.com 
> 
> 
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From ebookbinder at interwarn.com  Mon Apr  7 14:56:19 2008
From: ebookbinder at interwarn.com (Storm Alert Inc.)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:56:19 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data
Message-ID: <000301c898e9$739cffd0$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>

Gerry, et. al.,
 
You can see there are two old observations once again inserted in my stream
(0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 CDT this morning. These
are coming from an unattended computer, and the VPLive software does not
archive data or have the ability to re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I
checked the logs from this program and my own Internet activity and there a
nothing but emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct transmissions
took place.
 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000
P000p000h50b10206VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P
000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>
-->
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P
000p001h46b10160VL1112 
-->
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P
000p001h45b10158VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000
P000p000h51b10205VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000
P000p000h53b10205VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P
000p000h55b10206VL1112 
WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P
000p000h49b10208VL1112 
 
I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier troubleshooting
among the CWOP folks and software developers back during the Winter server
loading issues. Nonetheless, I can't see how that would cause these old
observations to be recycled into my FindU data stream.
 
Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past week were
associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.
 
Thanks,
Evan
NWS Kansas City
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From steve at softwx.com  Mon Apr  7 15:34:51 2008
From: steve at softwx.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:34:51 -0600
Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data
In-Reply-To: <000301c898e9$739cffd0$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>
References: <000301c898e9$739cffd0$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>
Message-ID: <E2A1D563D66F437E95FEEE9CA1B1D5DE@shrek>

As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if its attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 having problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this fallback has been kicking in occasionally. Although not I understand it's not the recommended first choice, I was not aware of there being a problem sending to tier 2 as an alternative, and I think it was even mentioned on this forum once or twice.

I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data packet is constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet to the server pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, then VPLive tries to send the same packet to the tier 2 server.

With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with the CWOP servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The fallback strategy VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring the data gets through. When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive will not use tier2.

Steve
SoftWx
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Storm Alert Inc. 
  To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' 
  Sent: 04/07/2008 1:56 PM
  Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data


  Gerry, et. al.,

  You can see there are two old observations once again inserted in my stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 CDT this morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, and the VPLive software does not archive data or have the ability to re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs from this program and my own Internet activity and there a nothing but emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct transmissions took place.

  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112 
  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>
  --> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112 
  --> WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112 
  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112 
  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112 
  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112 
  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112 

  I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software developers back during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I can't see how that would cause these old observations to be recycled into my FindU data stream.

  Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past week were associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.

  Thanks,
  Evan
  NWS Kansas City


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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Mon Apr  7 17:07:17 2008
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:07:17 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data
In-Reply-To: <E2A1D563D66F437E95FEEE9CA1B1D5DE@shrek>
References: <000301c898e9$739cffd0$6901a8c0@stormalerthp>
	<E2A1D563D66F437E95FEEE9CA1B1D5DE@shrek>
Message-ID: <47FA9B15.7060400@tamu.edu>

Falling back to T2 is not a sustainable strategy, though.  It makes more 
sense to fail over to another CWOP-dedicated server.  Please consider 
this in the future.

It would make a LOT more sense to have the CWOP-dedicated servers listed 
than to arbitrarily fail over to a T2 server.

gerry

Steve wrote:
> As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if its 
> attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 having 
> problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this fallback has been 
> kicking in occasionally. Although not I understand it's not the 
> recommended first choice, I was not aware of there being a problem 
> sending to tier 2 as an alternative, and I think it was even mentioned 
> on this forum once or twice.
>  
> I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data packet is 
> constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet to the server 
> pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, then VPLive tries to 
> send the same packet to the tier 2 server.
>  
> With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with the CWOP 
> servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The fallback strategy 
> VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring the data gets through. 
> When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive will not use tier2.
>  
> Steve
> SoftWx
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Storm Alert Inc. <mailto:ebookbinder at interwarn.com>
>     *To:* 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
>     <mailto:wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
>     *Sent:* 04/07/2008 1:56 PM
>     *Subject:* [wxqc] Another set of old data
> 
>     Gerry, et. al.,
>      
>     You can see there are two old observations once again inserted in my
>     stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 CDT this
>     morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, and the
>     VPLive software does not archive data or have the ability to
>     re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs from this
>     program and my own Internet activity and there a nothing but
>     emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct transmissions
>     took place.
>      
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112
> 
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>
>     -->
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112
> 
>     -->
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112
> 
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112
> 
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112
> 
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112
> 
>     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112
> 
>      
>     I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier
>     troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software developers back
>     during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I can't see
>     how that would cause these old observations to be recycled into my
>     FindU data stream.
>      
>     Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past week were
>     associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.
>      
>     Thanks,
>     Evan
>     NWS Kansas City
> 
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From kyrrin at bluefeathertech.com  Tue Apr  8 19:45:05 2008
From: kyrrin at bluefeathertech.com (Bruce Lane)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:45:05 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] AS712 Update
Message-ID: <200804081745050893.58A708E4@192.168.42.129>

Fellow weather-watchers,

	I've spoken with the nice folk at Rainwise, and they are shipping me a replacement controller board for the station. Though it may be 'shotgun' troubleshooting at its finest, Tech Support is not certain where the problem lies (they think it's either firmware or the barometer sensor circuit itself), so they want to do some fault analysis with the original board.

	I should be sending accurate data again, pressure-wise, within a week or so.

	Keep the peace(es).


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"Quid Malmborg in Plano..."


From jdunaway at optonline.net  Tue Apr  8 21:07:11 2008
From: jdunaway at optonline.net (jdunaway at optonline.net)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:07:11 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems
Message-ID: <e49fa9ee1512.47fc24cf@optonline.net>

Hi, everyone.I have a problem with my barometer readings passing MADIS L2 statistical consistency check. Here's the link to my MADIS QC page.http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/D0173I'm at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an Oregon Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather display 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified at 1018', 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp reported by the software matches the bp reported by the station, which is very close to that reported by an airport 1-1/2 hours away.Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?Thanks in advance,JimDW0173 
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From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com  Tue Apr  8 21:54:14 2008
From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:54:14 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems
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Message-ID: <7F0995AD943E486D91DBD4BBA28EB975@sauron>

> -----Original Message-----
>From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of
jdunaway at optonline.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:07 PM
> To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems
>
>

> I'm at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an
> Oregon Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather
> display 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified
> at 1018', 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp
> reported by the software matches the bp reported by the
> station, which is very close to that reported by an airport
> 1-1/2 hours away.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
>

>From just a quick look, you're reporting 2mb more the KPOU.
I doubt that's the only issue, but that alone puts you pretty
close to exceding the 3mb target. And looking at the 3 day,
your error is -1.5, which means MADIS believes your barometer
is 1.5mb higher than expected.

What airport are you using? I can get to Poughkeepsie from
here in less than 1-1/2 hour, and you're just over 15 miles
away from it. :)


Keith
--
CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com
http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250


From pick95051 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  9 09:02:31 2008
From: pick95051 at sbcglobal.net (Robert Pick)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:02:31 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash
Message-ID: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0@pick1>

Six days ago when I checked the status of the local weather (my station). Windows had left a message that Weatherlink 5.7 had a fatal error and had to close. I've checked everything, even deleted the software, reloaded , rebuilt the station, checked the internet settings and still no go. This all happens when the program opens the window to show the progress of the download to aprs. and when it gets to the step "down load images" it freezes, and completely shuts down. My internet connection is working fine. The other programs I run all work fine. I do number crunching for BOINC ( Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing ) This program is moving data on and off my computer all day long and has been for longer than I've had my weather station. Everything has been working in fine harmony up until 6 days ago. I've been on the phone with Davis half a doz. times this week to no avail. Can anyone help or suggest where I can get some.
Respectfully, Robert Pick
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From brillig at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 09:27:49 2008
From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:27:49 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash
In-Reply-To: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0@pick1>
References: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0@pick1>
Message-ID: <e0e999680804090727q10a42596y2e7437dc8fa1ac28@mail.gmail.com>

This probably isn't going to help very much, but I had sporadic
problems with Weatherlink and Weather Display. I wound up trying out
Virtual Weather Station and have had almost no problems since. I also
run BOINC (SETI and Climate Prediction).

Victor

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Robert Pick <pick95051 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> Six days ago when I checked the status of the local weather (my station).
> Windows had left a message that Weatherlink 5.7 had a fatal error and had to
> close. I've checked everything, even deleted the software, reloaded ,
> rebuilt the station, checked the internet settings and still no go. This all
> happens when the program opens the window to show the progress of the
> download to aprs. and when it gets to the step "down load images" it
> freezes, and completely shuts down. My internet connection is working fine.
> The other programs I run all work fine. I do number crunching for BOINC (
> Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing ) This program is moving
> data on and off my computer all day long and has been for longer than I've
> had my weather station. Everything has been working in fine harmony up until
> 6 days ago. I've been on the phone with Davis half a doz. times this week to
> no avail. Can anyone help or suggest where I can get some.
> Respectfully, Robert Pick
> _______________________________________________
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From mjkits at rit.edu  Wed Apr  9 09:56:56 2008
From: mjkits at rit.edu (Mark Kimble)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:56:56 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash
In-Reply-To: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0@pick1>
References: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0@pick1>
Message-ID: <6F61718F1AB1BC4486D7CA3429B3EDA301878C1C@svits26.main.ad.rit.edu>

My davis' weatherlink SW crashed a bunch for a while.  I found the
firmware and drivers in need of an upgrade due to an UART issue.
Google.  Its out there.

 

Mark

 

________________________________

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Robert Pick
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:03 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash

 

Six days ago when I checked the status of the local weather (my
station). Windows had left a message that Weatherlink 5.7 had a fatal
error and had to close. I've checked everything, even deleted the
software, reloaded , rebuilt the station, checked the internet settings
and still no go. This all happens when the program opens the window to
show the progress of the download to aprs. and when it gets to the step
"down load images" it freezes, and completely shuts down. My internet
connection is working fine. The other programs I run all work fine. I do
number crunching for BOINC ( Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network
Computing ) This program is moving data on and off my computer all day
long and has been for longer than I've had my weather station.
Everything has been working in fine harmony up until 6 days ago. I've
been on the phone with Davis half a doz. times this week to no avail.
Can anyone help or suggest where I can get some.

Respectfully, Robert Pick

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From jdunaway at optonline.net  Wed Apr  9 10:41:29 2008
From: jdunaway at optonline.net (jdunaway at optonline.net)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:41:29 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [wxqc] barometer problems
In-Reply-To: <mailman.55.1207749803.3075.wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net>
References: <mailman.55.1207749803.3075.wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Message-ID: <f828873a78f5.47fce3a9@optonline.net>

The closest airport I was able to get weather data from is Laguardia in NYC.----- Original Message -----From: wxqc-request at lists.gladstonefamily.netDate: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:05 amSubject: wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 7To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Send wxqc mailing list submissions to> 	wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> 	http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> 	wxqc-request at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > You can reach the person managing the list at> 	wxqc-owner at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of wxqc digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> >   1. Re: Another set of old data (Steve)>   2. Re: Another set of old data (Gerry Creager)>   3. AS712 Update (Bruce Lane)>   4. Barometer problems (jdunaway at optonline.net)>   5. Re: Barometer problems (Keith Miller)>   6. Weather station crash (Robert Pick)> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------> -----> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:34:51 -0600> From: "Steve" > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Another set of old data> To: , "Discussion of weather data quality> 	issues"	> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if > its attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 > having problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this > fallback has been kicking in occasionally. Although not I > understand it's not the recommended first choice, I was not > aware of there being a problem sending to tier 2 as an > alternative, and I think it was even mentioned on this forum > once or twice.> > I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data > packet is constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet > to the server pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, > then VPLive tries to send the same packet to the tier 2 server.> > With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with the > CWOP servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The > fallback strategy VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring > the data gets through. When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive > will not use tier2.> > Steve> SoftWx>  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: Storm Alert Inc. >  To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' >  Sent: 04/07/2008 1:56 PM>  Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data> > >  Gerry, et. al.,> >  You can see there are two old observations once again inserted > in my stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 > CDT this morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, > and the VPLive software does not archive data or have the > ability to re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs > from this program and my own Internet activity and there a > nothing but emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct > transmissions took place.> >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>>  --> > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112 >  --> > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112 >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112 >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112 > >  I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier > troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software developers > back during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I > can't see how that would cause these old observations to be > recycled into my FindU data stream.> >  Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past week > were associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.> >  Thanks,>  Evan>  NWS Kansas City> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > >  _______________________________________________>  wxqc mailing list>  Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>  To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:>  http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc>  To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u>  The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author.> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080407/07d8e4ec/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:07:17 -0500> From: Gerry Creager > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Another set of old data> To: Steve , Discussion of weather data quality> 	issues	> Message-ID: <47FA9B15.7060400 at tamu.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Falling back to T2 is not a sustainable strategy, though.  It > makes more > sense to fail over to another CWOP-dedicated server.  Please > consider > this in the future.> > It would make a LOT more sense to have the CWOP-dedicated > servers listed > than to arbitrarily fail over to a T2 server.> > gerry> > Steve wrote:> > As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if > its > > attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 > having > > problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this fallback > has been > > kicking in occasionally. Although not I understand it's not > the > > recommended first choice, I was not aware of there being a > problem > > sending to tier 2 as an alternative, and I think it was even > mentioned > > on this forum once or twice.> >  > > I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data > packet is > > constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet to the > server > > pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, then VPLive > tries to > > send the same packet to the tier 2 server.> >  > > With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with > the CWOP > > servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The fallback > strategy > > VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring the data gets > through. > > When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive will not use tier2.> >  > > Steve> > SoftWx> > > >     ----- Original Message -----> >     *From:* Storm Alert Inc. > >     *To:* 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'> >     > >     *Sent:* 04/07/2008 1:56 PM> >     *Subject:* [wxqc] Another set of old data> > > >     Gerry, et. al.,> >      > >     You can see there are two old observations once again > inserted in my> >     stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 > CDT this> >     morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, and the> >     VPLive software does not archive data or have the ability to> >     re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs from this> >     program and my own Internet activity and there a nothing but> >     emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct transmissions> >     took place.> >      > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>> >     -->> >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112> > >     -->> >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112> > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112> > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112> > >      > >     I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier> >     troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software > developers back> >     during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I > can't see> >     how that would cause these old observations to be recycled > into my> >     FindU data stream.> >      > >     Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past > week were> >     associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.> >      > >     Thanks,> >     Evan> >     NWS Kansas City> > > >     -----------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > > >     _______________________________________________> >     wxqc mailing list> >     Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> >     To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:> >     http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> >     To search the archives:> >     > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u> > >     The contents of this message are the responsibility of the > author.> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------> ---------> > > > _______________________________________________> > wxqc mailing list> > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:> > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u> > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author.> > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu> Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:45:05 -0700> From: "Bruce Lane" > Subject: [wxqc] AS712 Update> To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: <200804081745050893.58A708E4 at 192.168.42.129>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > Fellow weather-watchers,> > 	I've spoken with the nice folk at Rainwise, and they are > shipping me a replacement controller board for the station. > Though it may be 'shotgun' troubleshooting at its finest, Tech > Support is not certain where the problem lies (they think it's > either firmware or the barometer sensor circuit itself), so they > want to do some fault analysis with the original board.> > 	I should be sending accurate data again, pressure-wise, within > a week or so.> > 	Keep the peace(es).> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,> Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com> kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m> "Quid Malmborg in Plano..."> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:07:11 +0000 (GMT)> From: jdunaway at optonline.net> Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems> To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hi, everyone.I have a problem with my barometer readings passing > MADIS L2 statistical consistency check. Here's the link to my > MADIS QC page.http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/D0173I'm > at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an Oregon > Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather display > 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified at 1018', > 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp reported by > the software matches the bp reported by the station, which is > very close to that reported by an airport 1-1/2 hours > away.Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this > problem?Thanks in advance,JimDW0173 > -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080409/66bcaa36/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:54:14 -0400> From: Keith Miller > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Barometer problems> To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'> 	> Message-ID: <7F0995AD943E486D91DBD4BBA28EB975 at sauron>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > > -----Original Message-----> >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of> jdunaway at optonline.net> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:07 PM> > To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems> >> >> > > I'm at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an> > Oregon Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather> > display 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified> > at 1018', 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp> > reported by the software matches the bp reported by the> > station, which is very close to that reported by an airport> > 1-1/2 hours away.> >> > Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?> >> > >From just a quick look, you're reporting 2mb more the KPOU.> I doubt that's the only issue, but that alone puts you pretty> close to exceding the 3mb target. And looking at the 3 day,> your error is -1.5, which means MADIS believes your barometer> is 1.5mb higher than expected.> > What airport are you using? I can get to Poughkeepsie from> here in less than 1-1/2 hour, and you're just over 15 miles> away from it. :)> > > Keith> --> CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:02:31 -0700> From: "Robert Pick" > Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash> To: > Message-ID: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0 at pick1>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Six days ago when I checked the status of the local weather (my > station). Windows had left a message that Weatherlink 5.7 had a > fatal error and had to close. I've checked everything, even > deleted the software, reloaded , rebuilt the station, checked > the internet settings and still no go. This all happens when the > program opens the window to show the progress of the download to > aprs. and when it gets to the step "down load images" it > freezes, and completely shuts down. My internet connection is > working fine. The other programs I run all work fine. I do > number crunching for BOINC ( Berkeley Open Infrastructure for > Network Computing ) This program is moving data on and off my > computer all day long and has been for longer than I've had my > weather station. Everything has been working in fine harmony up > until 6 days ago. I've been on the phone with Davis half a doz. > times this week to no avail. Can anyone help or suggest where I > can get some.> Respectfully, Robert Pick> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080409/f3ad3a3d/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> wxqc mailing list> Send messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> To unsubscribe or change options, please go to:> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> > The contents of these messages are the responsibility of the > author(s).> > End of wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 7> ***********************************> 
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From jdunaway at optonline.net  Wed Apr  9 10:46:43 2008
From: jdunaway at optonline.net (jdunaway at optonline.net)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:46:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [wxqc] barometer problems
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Keith,I just did a search on KPOU and found their data. Their pressure reading (50 minutes ago) was 30.25, whereas mine reads 30.30. Their altitude is 164', whereas mine (verfiied) is 1018 feet as I'm up on top of a mountain. Is the .05 variance enough for the station to fail the MADIS QC checks?Thanks,Jim----- Original Message -----From: wxqc-request at lists.gladstonefamily.netDate: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:05 amSubject: wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 7To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Send wxqc mailing list submissions to> 	wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> 	http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> 	wxqc-request at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > You can reach the person managing the list at> 	wxqc-owner at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of wxqc digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> >   1. Re: Another set of old data (Steve)>   2. Re: Another set of old data (Gerry Creager)>   3. AS712 Update (Bruce Lane)>   4. Barometer problems (jdunaway at optonline.net)>   5. Re: Barometer problems (Keith Miller)>   6. Weather station crash (Robert Pick)> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------> -----> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:34:51 -0600> From: "Steve" > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Another set of old data> To: , "Discussion of weather data quality> 	issues"	> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if > its attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 > having problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this > fallback has been kicking in occasionally. Although not I > understand it's not the recommended first choice, I was not > aware of there being a problem sending to tier 2 as an > alternative, and I think it was even mentioned on this forum > once or twice.> > I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data > packet is constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet > to the server pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, > then VPLive tries to send the same packet to the tier 2 server.> > With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with the > CWOP servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The > fallback strategy VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring > the data gets through. When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive > will not use tier2.> > Steve> SoftWx>  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: Storm Alert Inc. >  To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' >  Sent: 04/07/2008 1:56 PM>  Subject: [wxqc] Another set of old data> > >  Gerry, et. al.,> >  You can see there are two old observations once again inserted > in my stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 > CDT this morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, > and the VPLive software does not archive data or have the > ability to re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs > from this program and my own Internet activity and there a > nothing but emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct > transmissions took place.> >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>>  --> > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112 >  --> > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112 >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112 >  WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112 >  > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112 > >  I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier > troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software developers > back during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I > can't see how that would cause these old observations to be > recycled into my FindU data stream.> >  Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past week > were associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.> >  Thanks,>  Evan>  NWS Kansas City> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > >  _______________________________________________>  wxqc mailing list>  Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>  To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:>  http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc>  To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u>  The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author.> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080407/07d8e4ec/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:07:17 -0500> From: Gerry Creager > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Another set of old data> To: Steve , Discussion of weather data quality> 	issues	> Message-ID: <47FA9B15.7060400 at tamu.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Falling back to T2 is not a sustainable strategy, though.  It > makes more > sense to fail over to another CWOP-dedicated server.  Please > consider > this in the future.> > It would make a LOT more sense to have the CWOP-dedicated > servers listed > than to arbitrarily fail over to a T2 server.> > gerry> > Steve wrote:> > As a fallback, VPLive tries to send data to tier 2 servers if > its > > attempt at sending to the CWOP rotation fails. With CWOP-2 > having > > problems lately, but remaining in the rotation, this fallback > has been > > kicking in occasionally. Although not I understand it's not > the > > recommended first choice, I was not aware of there being a > problem > > sending to tier 2 as an alternative, and I think it was even > mentioned > > on this forum once or twice.> >  > > I don't think the time issue is in VPLive because the data > packet is > > constructed first. Then it tries to send that packet to the > server > > pointed to by the CWOP rotation. If that fails, then VPLive > tries to > > send the same packet to the tier 2 server.> >  > > With the data now being sent less frequently, problems with > the CWOP > > servers can result in some big gaps in the data. The fallback > strategy > > VPLive uses seemed like a good way of insuring the data gets > through. > > When the CWOP rotation is working, VPLive will not use tier2.> >  > > Steve> > SoftWx> > > >     ----- Original Message -----> >     *From:* Storm Alert Inc. > >     *To:* 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'> >     > >     *Sent:* 04/07/2008 1:56 PM> >     *Subject:* [wxqc] Another set of old data> > > >     Gerry, et. al.,> >      > >     You can see there are two old observations once again > inserted in my> >     stream (0631Z and 0616Z) that occurred shortly after 11:15 > CDT this> >     morning. These are coming from an unattended computer, and the> >     VPLive software does not archive data or have the ability to> >     re-transmit old data. Nonetheless, I checked the logs from this> >     program and my own Internet activity and there a nothing but> >     emptiness between 1616Z and 1621Z when two correct transmissions> >     took place.> >      > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 1:@071611z3854.60N/09419.45W_037/002g004t048r000P000p000h50b10206VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071616z3854.60N/09419.45W_034/001g004t048r000P000p000h51b10206VL1112 ->>> >     -->> >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@070631z3854.60N/09419.45W_352/002g009t047r000P000p001h46b10160VL1112> > >     -->> >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2SGX:@070616z3854.60N/09419.45W_346/000g004t047r000P000p001h45b10158VL1112> > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071621z3854.60N/09419.45W_058/002g004t047r000P000p000h51b10205VL1112> > >     WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,CWOP-> 3:@071626z3854.60N/09419.45W_053/003g005t047r000P000p000h53b10205VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071631z3854.60N/09419.45W_036/001g005t048r000P000p000h55b10206VL1112> > >     > WX2CHS>APRS,TCPXX*,qAX,T2PSR:@071636z3854.60N/09419.45W_288/002g005t049r000P000p000h49b10208VL1112> > >      > >     I had been running on CWOP rotate to assist in some earlier> >     troubleshooting among the CWOP folks and software > developers back> >     during the Winter server loading issues. Nonetheless, I > can't see> >     how that would cause these old observations to be recycled > into my> >     FindU data stream.> >      > >     Any ideas? Both instances I've observed this in the past > week were> >     associated with a T2xxx server, if that makes any difference.> >      > >     Thanks,> >     Evan> >     NWS Kansas City> > > >     -----------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > > >     _______________________________________________> >     wxqc mailing list> >     Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> >     To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:> >     http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> >     To search the archives:> >     > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u> > >     The contents of this message are the responsibility of the > author.> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------> ---------> > > > _______________________________________________> > wxqc mailing list> > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to:> > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> > To search the archives: > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008314629403309390388%3Aknlfnptih9u> > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author.> > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu> Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:45:05 -0700> From: "Bruce Lane" > Subject: [wxqc] AS712 Update> To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: <200804081745050893.58A708E4 at 192.168.42.129>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"> > Fellow weather-watchers,> > 	I've spoken with the nice folk at Rainwise, and they are > shipping me a replacement controller board for the station. > Though it may be 'shotgun' troubleshooting at its finest, Tech > Support is not certain where the problem lies (they think it's > either firmware or the barometer sensor circuit itself), so they > want to do some fault analysis with the original board.> > 	I should be sending accurate data again, pressure-wise, within > a week or so.> > 	Keep the peace(es).> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-> Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,> Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com> kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m> "Quid Malmborg in Plano..."> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:07:11 +0000 (GMT)> From: jdunaway at optonline.net> Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems> To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hi, everyone.I have a problem with my barometer readings passing > MADIS L2 statistical consistency check. Here's the link to my > MADIS QC page.http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/D0173I'm > at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an Oregon > Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather display > 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified at 1018', > 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp reported by > the software matches the bp reported by the station, which is > very close to that reported by an airport 1-1/2 hours > away.Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this > problem?Thanks in advance,JimDW0173 > -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080409/66bcaa36/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:54:14 -0400> From: Keith Miller > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Barometer problems> To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'> 	> Message-ID: <7F0995AD943E486D91DBD4BBA28EB975 at sauron>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > > -----Original Message-----> >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of> jdunaway at optonline.net> > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:07 PM> > To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> > Subject: [wxqc] Barometer problems> >> >> > > I'm at a loss as to how to correct the problem. I have an> > Oregon Scientific WMR200a station and am running Weather> > display 10.27i. I have reset and reset the altitude (verified> > at 1018', 320m) and setup the software offset so that the bp> > reported by the software matches the bp reported by the> > station, which is very close to that reported by an airport> > 1-1/2 hours away.> >> > Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem?> >> > >From just a quick look, you're reporting 2mb more the KPOU.> I doubt that's the only issue, but that alone puts you pretty> close to exceding the 3mb target. And looking at the 3 day,> your error is -1.5, which means MADIS believes your barometer> is 1.5mb higher than expected.> > What airport are you using? I can get to Poughkeepsie from> here in less than 1-1/2 hour, and you're just over 15 miles> away from it. :)> > > Keith> --> CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5250> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:02:31 -0700> From: "Robert Pick" > Subject: [wxqc] Weather station crash> To: > Message-ID: <000701c89a4a$5b126a10$6501a8c0 at pick1>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Six days ago when I checked the status of the local weather (my > station). Windows had left a message that Weatherlink 5.7 had a > fatal error and had to close. I've checked everything, even > deleted the software, reloaded , rebuilt the station, checked > the internet settings and still no go. This all happens when the > program opens the window to show the progress of the download to > aprs. and when it gets to the step "down load images" it > freezes, and completely shuts down. My internet connection is > working fine. The other programs I run all work fine. I do > number crunching for BOINC ( Berkeley Open Infrastructure for > Network Computing ) This program is moving data on and off my > computer all day long and has been for longer than I've had my > weather station. Everything has been working in fine harmony up > until 6 days ago. I've been on the phone with Davis half a doz. > times this week to no avail. Can anyone help or suggest where I > can get some.> Respectfully, Robert Pick> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20080409/f3ad3a3d/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> wxqc mailing list> Send messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net> To unsubscribe or change options, please go to:> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc> > The contents of these messages are the responsibility of the > author(s).> > End of wxqc Digest, Vol 42, Issue 7> ***********************************> 
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From CAL at sysmanint.com  Wed Apr  9 10:55:56 2008
From: CAL at sysmanint.com (Carol A Locke)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:55:56 -0600
Subject: [wxqc] Weathlink Crashing
Message-ID: <000001c89a5a$32e85440$98b8fcc0$@com>

 

Would Mark Kimble please submit more information on the UART update issue?
I have been crashing and freezing for 3 months now.  I have also completely
uninstalled 3 times and I still am crashing.  I have installed the Serial to
USB several times, gone onto the internet through "update driver' and come
up with nothing.

 

Carol

CWOP 4498

 

Carol A Locke

Systems/Management Integration, Inc

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From mjkits at rit.edu  Wed Apr  9 13:09:14 2008
From: mjkits at rit.edu (Mark Kimble)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:09:14 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Weathlink Crashing
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Mark Kimble will take it unto consideration and poke around and re-find
aforementioned files.

 

Mark Kimble

 

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[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Carol A
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Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Weathlink Crashing

 

Would Mark Kimble please submit more information on the UART update
issue?  I have been crashing and freezing for 3 months now.  I have also
completely uninstalled 3 times and I still am crashing.  I have
installed the Serial to USB several times, gone onto the internet
through "update driver' and come up with nothing.

 

Carol

CWOP 4498

 

Carol A Locke

Systems/Management Integration, Inc

Tele:  (719) 599-9197

Fax:    (719) 599-9198

email: CAL at sysmanint.com

Web Site:  sysmanint.com

 

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From mjkits at rit.edu  Wed Apr  9 13:16:27 2008
From: mjkits at rit.edu (Mark Kimble)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:16:27 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Weathlink Crashing
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http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?showtopic=2918&st=20&start=20

 

 

read this - its in there somewhere.  ;)

 

Mark

 

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From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Carol A
Locke
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:56 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Weathlink Crashing

 

Would Mark Kimble please submit more information on the UART update
issue?  I have been crashing and freezing for 3 months now.  I have also
co