From DeerTrail131 at aol.com Thu Nov 1 11:13:58 2007 From: DeerTrail131 at aol.com (DeerTrail131 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:13:58 EDT Subject: [wxqc] CWOP AS619 / KB0FRI Message-ID: Dustin Burson: You are having problems with Windows Vista or the XP Home Edition Media? CWOP AS619 / kb0fri will be offline tonight starting from 2 am until 7 am. All I have to say is VISTA?. Or the removal of Vista replaced by XP Media Center Edition. Wish me luck. Dustin Burson Ron wd0bdq _wd0bdq at aol.com_ (mailto:wd0bdq at aol.com) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All I have to say is VISTA.. Or the removal of Vista replaced by XP Media Center Edition. Wish me luck. Dustin Burson Ron wd0bdq wd0bdq at aol.com _____ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071102/38ceff6a/attachment.html From ejcobb at bellsouth.net Sun Nov 4 06:56:26 2007 From: ejcobb at bellsouth.net (ejcobb at bellsouth.net) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:56:26 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 Message-ID: <110420071256.19919.472DC17A00037A0500004DCF22218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> All night the temp and dewpoint were falling smoothly but at a decreasing rate. About 3 AM both start to bump up about a degree and a half or 2 then begin falling again. No wind, no bumps in pressure and the dewpoint was in parallel the whole time. You can see it here http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTNEADS2 Just curious what might cause this. It was clear when I went to bed and clear this morning with a little bit of ground fog. The previous nights' graphs were smooth under similiar conditions except overall a little cooler. Thanks John CW6973 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071104/1228760d/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 08:24:15 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 09:24:15 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 In-Reply-To: <110420071256.19919.472DC17A00037A0500004DCF22218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> References: <110420071256.19919.472DC17A00037A0500004DCF22218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> Message-ID: I think I would first question your assumptions. When you say there is no wind, what you really mean is that whatever wind there is is below the threshold of your instrument at that level of the atmosphere. Curious, I looked at the neighboring stations to yours. The Farmington station is one of your closest neighbors and does show wind at the time, roughly easterly, so it must have come from your general area. Even without any wind at ground level, there could still be wind at upper levels, and with that, cloud cover. There could be warming associated with increased cloud cover. What was the cloud cover like during this time? On 11/4/07, ejcobb at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > All night the temp and dewpoint were falling smoothly but at a decreasing > rate. About 3 AM both start to bump up about a degree and a half or 2 then > begin falling again. No wind, no bumps in pressure and the dewpoint was in > parallel the whole time. You can see it here > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTNEADS2 > > Just curious what might cause this. It was clear when I went to bed and > clear this morning with a little bit of ground fog. The previous nights' > graphs were smooth under similiar conditions except overall a little cooler. > > Thanks > > John > CW6973 > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From ejcobb at bellsouth.net Sun Nov 4 09:43:27 2007 From: ejcobb at bellsouth.net (ejcobb at bellsouth.net) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:43:27 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 Message-ID: <110420071543.12659.472DE89F00073E7F0000317322243429029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> As you said, there must have been some kind of mixing at the level of the temp gauge. My anenometer didn't pick it up but it is about 15 ft higher than the temp sensor and about 100 ft away. As far as clouds are concerned, it was clear about 2100 and clear this morning at about 0630. Guess it's possible there were some clouds overhead during the night but I don't know. John CW6973 -------------- Original message from "Victor Engel" : -------------- > I think I would first question your assumptions. When you say there is > no wind, what you really mean is that whatever wind there is is below > the threshold of your instrument at that level of the atmosphere. > Curious, I looked at the neighboring stations to yours. The Farmington > station is one of your closest neighbors and does show wind at the > time, roughly easterly, so it must have come from your general area. > > Even without any wind at ground level, there could still be wind at > upper levels, and with that, cloud cover. There could be warming > associated with increased cloud cover. What was the cloud cover like > during this time? > > On 11/4/07, ejcobb at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > > > All night the temp and dewpoint were falling smoothly but at a decreasing > > rate. About 3 AM both start to bump up about a degree and a half or 2 then > > begin falling again. No wind, no bumps in pressure and the dewpoint was in > > parallel the whole time. You can see it here > > > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTNEADS2 > > > > Just curious what might cause this. It was clear when I went to bed and > > clear this morning with a little bit of ground fog. The previous nights' > > graphs were smooth under similiar conditions except overall a little cooler. > > > > Thanks > > > > John > > CW6973 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071104/9f706348/attachment.html From webmaster at memphisweather.net Sun Nov 4 14:16:57 2007 From: webmaster at memphisweather.net (Erik Proseus) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:16:57 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 In-Reply-To: <110420071543.12659.472DE89F00073E7F0000317322243429029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> References: <110420071543.12659.472DE89F00073E7F0000317322243429029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> Message-ID: <909784B07B534016A18D9D8BDA0FC427@HOMEPC> Hi John, I'm northwest of you in northern Bartlett. My VP2 did the same thing (KTNBARTL6) only I did record wind (a couple of mph) at the same time. In addition, KMEM reported 250 FEW for cloud cover around that time. Synoptically, we were transitioning from a northwest wind yesterday to more southwesterly today as high pressure moves east and the temps all around the area stopped falling after midnight last night. The explanation lies there, even though you may not have actually recorded "wind." --Erik ------------------------------------------------------ Erik Proseus, Webmaster and Forecaster MemphisWeather.Net http://www.MemphisWeather.Net webmaster at MemphisWeather.Net _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of ejcobb at bellsouth.net Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:43 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 As you said, there must have been some kind of mixing at the level of the temp gauge. My anenometer didn't pick it up but it is about 15 ft higher than the temp sensor and about 100 ft away. As far as clouds are concerned, it was clear about 2100 and clear this morning at about 0630. Guess it's possible there were some clouds overhead during the night but I don't know. John CW6973 -------------- Original message from "Victor Engel" : -------------- > I think I would first question your assumptions. When you say there is > no wind, what you really mean is that whatever wind there is is below > the threshold of your instrument at that level of the atmosphere. > Curious, I looked at the neighboring stations to yours. The Farmington > station is one of your closest neighbors and does show wind at the > time, roughly easterly, so it must have come from your general area. > > Even without any wind at ground level, there could still be wind at > upper levels, and with that, cloud cover. There could be warming > associated with increased cloud cover. What was the cloud cover like > during this time? > > On 11/4/07, ejcobb at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > > > All night the temp and dewpoint were falling smoothly but at a decreasing > > rate. About 3 AM both start to bump up about a degree and a half or 2 then > > begin falling again. No wind, no bumps in pressure and the dewpoint was in > > parallel the whole time. You can see it here > > > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTNEADS2 > > > > Just curious what might cause this. It was clear when I went to bed and > > clear this morning with a little bit of ground fog. The previous nights' > > graphs were smooth under similiar conditions except overall a little cooler. > > > > Thanks > > > > John > > CW6973 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gla dstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071104/2fa2c2c5/attachment-0001.html From ejcobb at bellsouth.net Sun Nov 4 16:54:56 2007 From: ejcobb at bellsouth.net (ejcobb at bellsouth.net) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:54:56 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 Message-ID: <110420072254.24373.472E4DC00003C64600005F3522230682329B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> Thanks for the explanation. I should have thought to look at the KMEM sequence reports. Regards John CW6973 -------------- Original message from "Erik Proseus" : -------------- Hi John, I'm northwest of you in northern Bartlett. My VP2 did the same thing (KTNBARTL6) only I did record wind (a couple of mph) at the same time. In addition, KMEM reported 250 FEW for cloud cover around that time. Synoptically, we were transitioning from a northwest wind yesterday to more southwesterly today as high pressure moves east and the temps all around the area stopped falling after midnight last night. The explanation lies there, even though you may not have actually recorded "wind." --Erik ------------------------------------------------------ Erik Proseus, Webmaster and Forecaster MemphisWeather.Net http://www.MemphisWeather.Net webmaster at MemphisWeather.Net From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of ejcobb at bellsouth.net Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 9:43 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Bump in Temp/dewpoint @ CW6973 As you said, there must have been some kind of mixing at the level of the temp gauge. My anenometer didn't pick it up but it is about 15 ft higher than the temp sensor and about 100 ft away. As far as clouds are concerned, it was clear about 2100 and clear this morning at about 0630. Guess it's possible there were some clouds overhead during the night but I don't know. John CW6973 -------------- Original message from "Victor Engel" : -------------- > I think I would first question your assumptions. When you say there is > no wind, what you really mean is that whatever wind there is is below > the threshold of your instrument at that level of the atmosphere. > Curious, I looked at the neighboring stations to yours. The Farmington > station is one of your closest neighbors and does show wind at the > time, roughly easterly, so it must have come from your general area. > > Even without any wind at ground level, there could still be wind at > upper levels, and with that, cloud cover. There could be warming > associated with increased cloud cover. What was the cloud cover like > during this time? > > On 11/4/07, ejcobb at bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > > > All night the temp and dewpoint were falling smoothly but at a decreasing > > rate. About 3 AM both start to bump up about a degree and a half or 2 then > > begin falling again. No wind, no bumps in pressure and the dewpoint was in > > parallel the whole time. You can see it here > > > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTNEADS2 > > > > Just curious what might cause this. It was clear when I went to bed and > > clear this morning with a little bit of ground fog. The previous nights' > > graphs were smooth under similiar conditions except overall a little cooler. > > > > Thanks > > > > John > > CW6973 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gla dstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071104/33c724d5/attachment.html From Derek.deBastos at xmradio.com Mon Nov 5 10:17:22 2007 From: Derek.deBastos at xmradio.com (de Bastos, Derek) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:17:22 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Clogged Rain Gauge In-Reply-To: <47292F82.3030008@comcast.net> References: <47292F82.3030008@comcast.net> Message-ID: Dave Helms wrote: > I emailed the owner about the odd rainfall character; > he checked the gauge and found a feather in the rain > gauge funnel opening. Funny you should post this. That same storm had my wife questioning why our rain gauge was saying we got less rain than the news had her expecting. I also noticed that the bucket continued to tip a couple times a day in the days following the storm, the tail end of which can still be seen at: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW2463&units=nautical&last= 240 It wasn't until this weekend that I was home long enough to take a look at my funnel. Sure enough, a bird left his calling card, but in my case it was not a feather. From the looks of it, he had been eating very, very well prior to his visit. The evidence and the missing rainfall were all there. This is only the second time in four years I've had my gauge plug up; the first time the culprit was what looked exactly like a cumin seed. Derek CW2463 From shell at shellware.com Mon Nov 5 12:32:02 2007 From: shell at shellware.com (Shell Shrader) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:32:02 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Clogged Rain Gauge In-Reply-To: References: <47292F82.3030008@comcast.net>, Message-ID: <8C12C3D7-539B-4CCF-B7F6-0BF6FFA03FA6@mimectl> Interesting thread.... I've been procrastinating the past two-three weeks for getting on my roof (my stuff is a good 40' up) to determine why my rain gauge hasn't recorded rainfall the past couple storms we had here. The last time it quit working was because a bunch of wasps decided the inside of the bucket was a good place to set up shop. From: de Bastos, Derek Sent: Mon 11/5/2007 11:17 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Clogged Rain Gauge Dave Helms wrote: > I emailed the owner about the odd rainfall character; > he checked the gauge and found a feather in the rain > gauge funnel opening. Funny you should post this. That same storm had my wife questioning why our rain gauge was saying we got less rain than the news had her expecting. I also noticed that the bucket continued to tip a couple times a day in the days following the storm, the tail end of which can still be seen at: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW2463&units=nautical&last= 240 It wasn't until this weekend that I was home long enough to take a look at my funnel. Sure enough, a bird left his calling card, but in my case it was not a feather. From the looks of it, he had been eating very, very well prior to his visit. The evidence and the missing rainfall were all there. This is only the second time in four years I've had my gauge plug up; the first time the culprit was what looked exactly like a cumin seed. Derek CW2463 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071105/be31b601/attachment.html From ejcobb at bellsouth.net Mon Nov 5 12:50:18 2007 From: ejcobb at bellsouth.net (ejcobb at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:50:18 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Clogged Rain Gauge Message-ID: <110520071850.3364.472F65EA000414DB00000D2422193100029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0D0D010C060A@att.net> I clean mine once a week and almost always find gifts from the local bird community. ;) John -------------- Original message from "de Bastos, Derek" : -------------- > Dave Helms wrote: > > > I emailed the owner about the odd rainfall character; > > he checked the gauge and found a feather in the rain > > gauge funnel opening. > > Funny you should post this. > > That same storm had my wife questioning why our rain gauge was saying we > got less rain than the news had her expecting. I also noticed that the > bucket continued to tip a couple times a day in the days following the > storm, the tail end of which can still be seen at: > > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW2463&units=nautical&last= > 240 > > It wasn't until this weekend that I was home long enough to take a look > at my funnel. Sure enough, a bird left his calling card, but in my case > it was not a feather. From the looks of it, he had been eating very, > very well prior to his visit. The evidence and the missing rainfall > were all there. > > This is only the second time in four years I've had my gauge plug up; > the first time the culprit was what looked exactly like a cumin seed. > > Derek > CW2463 > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071105/3b2ed8c0/attachment.html From radiotech at bellsouth.net Mon Nov 5 23:15:54 2007 From: radiotech at bellsouth.net (Alan Alsobrook) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:15:54 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Clogged Rain Gauge In-Reply-To: References: <47292F82.3030008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <472FF88A.6030409@bellsouth.net> At one of the radio stations I take care of apparently we had birds using the rain gauge for target practice, and they were hitting the target! Now this wasn't a tip bucket gauge, this was the full blown "Official" 8" diameter 3' high, copper NWS rain gauge. Not only was it clogged it had a mound of bird poo blocking the funnel. Try explaining that to the NWS office on the morning call in. de Bastos, Derek wrote: > That same storm had my wife questioning why our rain gauge was saying we > got less rain than the news had her expecting. I also noticed that the > bucket continued to tip a couple times a day in the days following the > storm, the tail end of which can still be seen at: -- Alan Alsobrook CSRE AMD CBNT St. Augustine Fl. 32086 904-829-8885 aalso at Bellsouth.net From dsscheibe at earthlink.net Tue Nov 6 03:12:51 2007 From: dsscheibe at earthlink.net (Scott Scheibe) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:12:51 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] rain gauge Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20071106014837.031c2850@pop.earthlink.net> I probably should look at mine, I haven't had any trouble with it and the Davis twist off and is about 6 foot, just a little to tall for me to look in it. But then it hasn't rained signifigantly since early August or late July, nothing since 6/10''s in September. They are predicting a warm and dry La Nina winter. We have been breaking records or close to it for the last week or more. Hard to beleive it is fall when we've mostly been in the low 90's for the last month, there was like two days it dropped in to the 70's. Last year we had the coldest winter I remember since moving to Phoenix in 1986. It got down in the upper 20's for a few days around New Years (usually the coldest time of year here) and had broken pipes and lost trees and plants all over Phoenix. I have a manual gauge on the other side of the yard and it collects dead bugs and dirt mostly.. I have 7 little palm trees coming up around my elm tree from bird poop. Took me a while to figure out what they were, now I have to figure out what to do with them as I don't want any palm trees, nothing but trouble and a haven for scorpians. I once saw one hit by lightning spitting out flaming balls of pitch like a roman torch. I've had all kinds of weird plants coming up in the back yard this year. D. Scott Scheibe Scott's Home page Scott's Weather Page Citizen Weather Observer Program Quality reporting Weather Underground Member page From webmaster at farmingtonweather.com Wed Nov 7 11:35:54 2007 From: webmaster at farmingtonweather.com (webmaster) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:35:54 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] wxqc Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071107173558.3CAC3A0F62@relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net> Something like that happened to me recently. We were having a pretty good rainfall but after hours of rain the bucket only tipped once. I went out the next day to find the bucket almost full of water. It was blocked by a seed just big enough to plug the hole at the bottom. I wrote about it on the Weather-Watch forum and several people said they took care of the problem by adding a strainer to their bucket. I was disappointed that the Davis supplied strainer would allow a seed past it capable of blocking the hole. Doesn't make sense to have a strainer that allows things past big enough to block the hole at the bottom. They suggest using a sink drain strainer which I just put in there this week. I realize the screen mesh will hold some water, making my reading slightly light but that is better than having the bucket will with rain and splash out. Lew >It wasn't until this weekend that I was home long enough to take a look >at my funnel. Sure enough, a bird left his calling card, but in my case >it was not a feather. From the looks of it, he had been eating very, >very well prior to his visit. The evidence and the missing rainfall >were all there. > >This is only the second time in four years I've had my gauge plug up; >the first time the culprit was what looked exactly like a cumin seed. > >Derek >CW2463 ****************************************** Lew - Weathermaster lew at farmingtonweather.com Farmington Weather www.farmingtonweather.com Farmington, Minnesota, USA From cmowen at att.net Mon Nov 12 05:06:11 2007 From: cmowen at att.net (Charles M. Owen) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:06:11 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station Message-ID: I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best way to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns me. Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to the internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. Charles Owen CW4870 From plantlover at ntelos.net Mon Nov 12 06:06:17 2007 From: plantlover at ntelos.net (Michele Fletcher) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:06:17 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Charles, I got my Vantage Pro (older model not 2) from Davis Instruments. It's wireless from station to console. 2 might be wireless from console to computer as well, I can't remember. I also got Weatherlink software from them with data logger. It wasn't hard to set up with CWOP. (I'm new to all this.) CWOP folks have been very helpful Michele ------------------------------------------------------------- Skywarn spotter # 99-163-001 CW8902 Michele Fletcher, VSLD & VCH certified Landscape Design & Horticultural Consulting 890 Adair Hill Drive Rockbridge Baths, VA 24473-2518 540-464-1599 plantlover at ntelos.net For more landscape information go online to: http://www.vsld.org and http://www.virginiagardening.com -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Charles M. Owen Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best way to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns me. Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to the internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. Charles Owen CW4870 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071112/232e2f04/attachment.html From mtnguyz at msn.com Mon Nov 12 06:52:43 2007 From: mtnguyz at msn.com (GEORGE TATE) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:52:43 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Expansion_Module Directory Message-ID: I had a computer problem and had to reload all my program's. When I reloaded the weatherlink program I don't have the Expansion_Module Directory anymore. Does any one know I can create it? I Need it for weatherunderground. Thanks. George Tate CW4878 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071112/4b174eac/attachment.html From steve at softwx.com Mon Nov 12 08:54:38 2007 From: steve at softwx.com (Steve Hatchett) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:54:38 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01c8253b$f4d46ec0$de7d4c40$@com> You might want to wait on the IP portion. It looks like Ambient has their own little device http://www.ambientweather.com/amwestco.html that connects to the davis serial datalogger connection on the VP console (which you also have to buy to use the ambient IP device), and to an Ethernet network on the other side. But it appears to only send to wunderground. For the price, you could just buy a low power, low end PC, and then be able to use the data and send the data any way you want. Also, Davis is working on an IP weatherlink module themselves http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_product.asp?pnum=06555 that apparently will not have the limitations the Ambient device has. Unless you absolutely need to have a setup that doesn't include a PC, I would just go with the Davis station + the davis serial datalogger, and connect to your PC if you have one. Then you don't have any limitations. The Davis serial datalogger comes with Weatherlink software, which will send to CWOP, and Wunderground, as well as keep a long term archive the data on your computer. Steve -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Charles M. Owen Sent: 11/12/2007 4:06 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best way to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns me. Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to the internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. Charles Owen CW4870 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From emamatt at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 08:53:57 2007 From: emamatt at gmail.com (Matt McCracken) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:53:57 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22ae3cfe0711120653q2662e4f6i8956af7ba50db42a@mail.gmail.com> Cheapest place to get your Wx stations is http://www.provantage.com/davis-instruments-6152~7DAVS045.htm Matt On Nov 12, 2007 5:06 AM, Charles M. Owen wrote: > I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. > > I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best > way > to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns > me. > > Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to > the > internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station > Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" > database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. > > Charles Owen > CW4870 > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071112/7105febe/attachment-0001.html From plantlover at ntelos.net Mon Nov 12 13:23:39 2007 From: plantlover at ntelos.net (Michele Fletcher) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:23:39 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Expansion_Module Directory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: George, Have you tried uninstalling it and re-install to see if it'll show up? -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of GEORGE TATE Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 7:53 AM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Expansion_Module Directory I had a computer problem and had to reload all my program's. When I reloaded the weatherlink program I don't have the Expansion_Module Directory anymore. Does any one know I can create it? I Need it for weatherunderground. Thanks. George Tate CW4878 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071112/0f7a9ef5/attachment.html From weather at quinnco.net Mon Nov 12 06:26:13 2007 From: weather at quinnco.net (Weather) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:26:13 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <100b25220711120426l5936b315w1143768e5178447f@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like you want a wireless Vantage Pro2+ (6163) Vantage Pro2+ station ($810) and Weatherlink data logger ($119) from Provantage site. http://www.provantage.com/scripts/go.dll/quote/94518-fc_davs WeatherDisplay ($73.00) is also a nice option I highly recommend. http://www.weather-display.com/ If you get all of this you are set. Lee CW5376 weather at quinnco.net www.quinnco.net On Nov 12, 2007 7:06 AM, Michele Fletcher wrote: > > > > Hi Charles, > > I got my Vantage Pro (older model not 2) from Davis Instruments. It's > wireless from station to console. 2 might be wireless from console to > computer as well, I can't remember. I also got Weatherlink software from > them with data logger. It wasn't hard to set up with CWOP. (I'm new to all > this.) CWOP folks have been very helpful > Michele > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Skywarn spotter # 99-163-001 > > CW8902 > > Michele Fletcher, VSLD & VCH certified > > Landscape Design & Horticultural Consulting > > 890 Adair Hill Drive > Rockbridge Baths, VA 24473-2518 > 540-464-1599 > plantlover at ntelos.net > > > > For more landscape information go online to: http://www.vsld.org and > http://www.virginiagardening.com > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Charles M. > Owen > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:06 AM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station > > > I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. > > I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best way > to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns me. > > Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to the > internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station > Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" > database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. > > Charles Owen > CW4870 > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From edith.thornburg at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 19:27:30 2007 From: edith.thornburg at verizon.net (Edith) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:27:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: [wxqc] Expansion_Module Directory Message-ID: <31997021.5586411194917251097.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> http://wiki.wunderground.com/index.php/PWS_-_WeatherLink links to upload the module are on the page mentioned above. Description below. This may help? Edith Getting WeatherLink to send station observations to Weather Underground Requirements: you must have WeatherLink 5.5.1 or higher for Windows * Mac OSX WeatherLink is not supported at this time. There are other programs available for Mac OSX on this page: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp WeatherLink by itself does not send weather observations to Weather Underground. There is an "Expansion Module" written by Weather Underground that adds the Weather Underground upload feature to WeatherLink. To install this module: 1. Download WuiWlink_1.dll and save this file in a place you can retrieve it later. 2. View the ReadMe file: Installation Instructions IMPORTANT Note If you own a Weather Monitor II station, you should use the older WeatherLink Weather Underground module written by Davis Instruments: 1. Download and run WeatherLinkModule.exe. 2. ReadMe: Installation Instructions From edith.thornburg at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 20:58:18 2007 From: edith.thornburg at verizon.net (Edith) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:58:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station Message-ID: <7927097.9863851194922699012.JavaMail.root@vms062.mailsrvcs.net> Are you saying that I can upload to the internet without my (currently dead)computer? I'm going through withdrawl here - it's been over a month now :( Edith ===================== From: Steve Hatchett Date: 2007/11/12 Mon AM 08:54:38 CST To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] Upgrading my station You might want to wait on the IP portion. It looks like Ambient has their own little device http://www.ambientweather.com/amwestco.html that connects to the davis serial datalogger connection on the VP console (which you also have to buy to use the ambient IP device), and to an Ethernet network on the other side. But it appears to only send to wunderground. For the price, you could just buy a low power, low end PC, and then be able to use the data and send the data any way you want. Also, Davis is working on an IP weatherlink module themselves http://www.davisnet.com/weather/products/weather_product.asp?pnum=06555 that apparently will not have the limitations the Ambient device has. Unless you absolutely need to have a setup that doesn't include a PC, I would just go with the Davis station + the davis serial datalogger, and connect to your PC if you have one. Then you don't have any limitations. The Davis serial datalogger comes with Weatherlink software, which will send to CWOP, and Wunderground, as well as keep a long term archive the data on your computer. Steve -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Charles M. Owen Sent: 11/12/2007 4:06 AM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] Upgrading my station I am thinking of upgrading my station to the "big Magilla" by Christmas. I am thinking of a Vantage Pro2 with UV and Solar etc. What is the best way to get it to CWOP? I think that WU and any others are secondary concerns me. Is there a good place to get it as a complete wireless station to get to the internet? Again, Ambient Weather AmbientIP IP Ethernet Weather Station Console it seems is set to go only to WU and I want to get to the "real" database of CWOP/Madis/NOAA. Charles Owen CW4870 _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From demljh at frontiernet.net Wed Nov 14 14:32:51 2007 From: demljh at frontiernet.net (demljh) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:32:51 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CW6848 Message-ID: <008401c826fd$87e23770$01fea8c0@LOFTPC> CW 6848 will be off the air from 1700Z 16 November until 1700Z 25 November Darrell Murray & Laurie Holdridge e-mail: demljh at frontiernet.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071114/3a1a200c/attachment.html From twv60s at hughes.net Thu Nov 15 08:42:44 2007 From: twv60s at hughes.net (Thomas L Orgill II) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:42:44 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CW3072 Status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010601c82795$cd064650$6401a8c0@orgill> Gentlemen, CW3072 is now back on line. Disruption was due to a lightning strike. Weather Station had to go back to Davis Instruments for repair and calibration. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you, Thomas Orgill From wxw0lta at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 11:09:51 2007 From: wxw0lta at gmail.com (Rick Patterson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:09:51 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Test Message-ID: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Is it awfully quite over on this list or is my ISP blocking? Thanks Rick Patterson w0lta / ar797 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071127/16d95420/attachment.html From ibbrunnie at comcast.net Tue Nov 27 12:32:29 2007 From: ibbrunnie at comcast.net (Rich Brunnworth) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:32:29 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> References: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474C62BD.5050608@comcast.net> It's been quiet. Rick Patterson wrote: > Is it awfully quite over on this list or is my ISP blocking? > -- Rich From plantlover at ntelos.net Tue Nov 27 12:37:39 2007 From: plantlover at ntelos.net (Michele Fletcher) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:39 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: been very quiet........ Michele 8902 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Rick Patterson Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:10 PM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Test Is it awfully quite over on this list or is my ISP blocking? Thanks Rick Patterson w0lta / ar797 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071127/6371ae24/attachment-0001.html From brillig at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 12:21:57 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:21:57 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> References: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OK, I have something. Some months ago, I noticed that the barometric pressure reported by KAUS and KATT started reporting higher than my station and the closest station to me. That station and mine had been essentially in lock step together until I made an adjustment to mine to be in sync with these two official stations. I was suspicious at the time that ours were accurate and theres were actually in error. After a discussion here, I decided to adjust my station. Now, they're back to where they were before, leaving my station the odd man out. Apparently, a calibration took place between the 21st and 22nd of this month. See http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C6155?date=20071123&addnl=AS425&addnl=KATT&addnl=KAUS and go ahead or behind in time to see what I mean. AS425 and my station C6155 have always tracked each other +/- small variations and whatever adjustment I made. Now it looks like I need to made an adjustment again. But if I do, then I think I never should have adjusted upward in the first place, and I conclude that the official stations must have been off in the interim. Given the data, how likely does that scenario seem to you? Victor From geraldschoenfeld at yahoo.com Tue Nov 27 14:53:42 2007 From: geraldschoenfeld at yahoo.com (Gerald Schoenfeld) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:53:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <733040.22697.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I am not sure how to reply. I notified weather underground about the failure of the PWS in Owings Mills, MD, reporting that for 2 days (11/21-23) all readings remained unchanging. I rec'd the wxqc address, which I signed on to, assuming that it would lead to some explanation or at least a correction of the station. Whether or not my notice played a part, that PWS is back in working state. In the meanwhile, I have been checking the temp readings (the only one I am interested in) from three stations all within 5 miles of my home. (I do not have my own PWS). I use the figures to plan the setting for the humidifier I have. The 3 figures I get for the overnight low temp so far have a spread of up to 5 degrees from each other, which I find puzzling since I would not expect that there would be that much difference between 3 stations in the near vicinity. Is that a believable event? I do have an indoor/outdoor thermometer, whose outside reading are almost always several degrees higher than even the highest of the 3 readings from the PWS's. I have long been suspicious that my unit lacks precision. Victor Engel wrote: OK, I have something. Some months ago, I noticed that the barometric pressure reported by KAUS and KATT started reporting higher than my station and the closest station to me. That station and mine had been essentially in lock step together until I made an adjustment to mine to be in sync with these two official stations. I was suspicious at the time that ours were accurate and theres were actually in error. After a discussion here, I decided to adjust my station. Now, they're back to where they were before, leaving my station the odd man out. Apparently, a calibration took place between the 21st and 22nd of this month. See http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C6155?date=20071123&addnl=AS425&addnl=KATT&addnl=KAUS and go ahead or behind in time to see what I mean. AS425 and my station C6155 have always tracked each other +/- small variations and whatever adjustment I made. Now it looks like I need to made an adjustment again. But if I do, then I think I never should have adjusted upward in the first place, and I conclude that the official stations must have been off in the interim. Given the data, how likely does that scenario seem to you? Victor _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071127/ae951f96/attachment.html From ibbrunnie at comcast.net Tue Nov 27 16:19:55 2007 From: ibbrunnie at comcast.net (Rich Brunnworth) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:19:55 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <733040.22697.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <733040.22697.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474C980B.50008@comcast.net> Why is a temp difference of several degrees, within a 5 mile radius, unbelievable? There is a PWS not more than 2 miles from me that is different from my readings by up to 10 degrees at time. The geography of the area plays a big part of temp readings. Roads emit heat at night, house do too. So I don't think you should believe that all stations in your area should have the same temp at the same time. JMHO..... Rich Gerald Schoenfeld wrote: > In the meanwhile, I have been checking the temp readings (the only one > I am interested in) from three stations all within 5 miles of my home. > (I do not have my own PWS). I use the figures to plan the setting for > the humidifier I have. The 3 figures I get for the overnight low temp > so far have a spread of up to 5 degrees from each other, which I find > puzzling since I would not expect that there would be that much > difference between 3 stations in the near vicinity. Is that a > believable event? I do have an indoor/outdoor thermometer, whose > outside reading are almost always several degrees higher than even the > highest of the 3 readings from the PWS's. I have long been suspicious > that my unit lacks precision. From brillig at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 12:07:50 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:07:50 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> References: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think it's just quiet. That's a good thing, right? On 11/27/07, Rick Patterson wrote: > Is it awfully quite over on this list or is my ISP blocking? > Thanks > Rick Patterson > w0lta / ar797 > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From brillig at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 16:20:19 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:20:19 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: <733040.22697.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <733040.22697.qm@web59210.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gerald, Since you don't have your own PWS, perhaps a bit of an explanation is in order. This list is completely unaffiliated with Weatherunderground as far as I know. Furthermore, Weatherunderground is a network of independent weather stations. In order for you to get a good feed from one of those stations, all items in a chain need to be functioning properly: * The personal weather station. This implies the sensors and all components of the weather station work properly. * The link from the PWS to Weatherunderground. In this case, it's likely to involve a computer connected to the internet, in which case: * Power must be on or backup power available. * ISP must be working. * Weatherunderground main computers are connected to the internet. * Weatherunderground database processing is active. * Weatherundergournd web services are running. * Your ISP is working, you have power, etc. If you see no data for a period of time on just a single weather station, it's likely something specific to that station. Yesterday, for example, my station was down for an hour during a power failure. When the power was restored, the weather station was automatically back on line but weatherunderground had a gap in the data. I fixed that by disconnecting the weather station from the computer, unloading the weather station software, waiting a while, reconnecting the station, then reloading the software. The software I have recognizes it was out of service for a while and reloads historical data since midnight to weatherunderground. If my computer, which was running on batteries during the power failure, had gone down, the station would have continued to store data for some period of time in its own database. OR... maybe the station was simply down for maintenance. As far as contacts go, I would contact the station owner directly if you have questions about its operation. As to the comment about temperature variation, something might be a miss, or you might simply be seeing microclimates. Try driving around on a still, clear night sometime with the window open and feel the temperature of the air. It varies quite a bit even when moving small distances. Victor On 11/27/07, Gerald Schoenfeld wrote: > I am not sure how to reply. I notified weather underground about the > failure of the PWS in Owings Mills, MD, reporting that for 2 days (11/21-23) > all readings remained unchanging. I rec'd the wxqc address, which I signed > on to, assuming that it would lead to some explanation or at least a > correction of the station. Whether or not my notice played a part, that PWS > is back in working state. > > In the meanwhile, I have been checking the temp readings (the only one I am > interested in) from three stations all within 5 miles of my home. (I do not > have my own PWS). I use the figures to plan the setting for the humidifier > I have. The 3 figures I get for the overnight low temp so far have a spread > of up to 5 degrees from each other, which I find puzzling since I would not > expect that there would be that much difference between 3 stations in the > near vicinity. Is that a believable event? I do have an indoor/outdoor > thermometer, whose outside reading are almost always several degrees higher > than even the highest of the 3 readings from the PWS's. I have long been > suspicious that my unit lacks precision. > > > Victor Engel wrote: > OK, I have something. Some months ago, I noticed that the barometric > pressure reported by KAUS and KATT started reporting higher than my > station and the closest station to me. That station and mine had been > essentially in lock step together until I made an adjustment to mine > to be in sync with these two official stations. I was suspicious at > the time that ours were accurate and theres were actually in error. > After a discussion here, I decided to adjust my station. > > Now, they're back to where they were before, leaving my station the > odd man out. Apparently, a calibration took place between the 21st and > 22nd of this month. See > http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C6155?date=20071123&addnl=AS425&addnl=KATT&addnl=KAUS > and go ahead or behind in time to see what I mean. > > AS425 and my station C6155 have always tracked each other +/- small > variations and whatever adjustment I made. Now it looks like I need to > made an adjustment again. But if I do, then I think I never should > have adjusted upward in the first place, and I conclude that the > official stations must have been off in the interim. > > Given the data, how likely does that scenario seem to you? > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > ________________________________ > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From plantlover at ntelos.net Wed Nov 28 09:17:42 2007 From: plantlover at ntelos.net (Michele Fletcher) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:17:42 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Help! It was suggested to me that because MADIS says my Barometer Sensor "fails L2 statistical consistency check." that I should change my barometer reading to one from a local airport. Well at 9:41 AM Nov. 28, the local Airport SHD about http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/KSHD.html shows a barometer reading of 30.44 inches and my barometer shows a reading of 30.401 inches. Is that so out of line? (I really don't know but it seems like hundredths isn't much dif.) Davis Instruments just re-calibrated everything on my Davis Pro in October. Also confusing to me is that my console says 30.401 but when I read the CWOPS info page it says 1028.1 mb.... shouldn't the barometer reading be the same here and on the internet site? Dewpoint and temp appear the same. This is my station info. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW8902&last=12 http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxnear.cgi?call=CW8902 lists other stations local to me. Could someone who is knowledgeable look this over and guide me? Also how do I make such a change on my Davis Pro? 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Victor From Weather at JaxWeather.net Wed Nov 28 16:20:32 2007 From: Weather at JaxWeather.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:20:32 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? http://www.weatherunderground.com -Bob On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071128/1558296b/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 18:28:23 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:28:23 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > -Bob > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > > > Victor > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From Weather at JaxWeather.net Wed Nov 28 19:13:55 2007 From: Weather at JaxWeather.net (Bob Johnson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:13:55 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well it appears there is daily data but for Metar stations only hourly... http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KAUS/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KATT/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html -Bob On Nov 28, 2007 7:28 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > > > -Bob > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > > couple of years? 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URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071128/9c8b274c/attachment.html From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Wed Nov 28 17:43:35 2007 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:43:35 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3CB78436945441E4AB17DFA65216F986@sauron> >-----Original Message----- >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Michele Fletcher >Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:18 AM >To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >Subject: [wxqc] questions > > Is that so out of line? (I really don't know but it seems > like hundredths isn't much dif.) Davis Instruments just > re-calibrated everything on my Davis Pro in October. I believe the allowed error is 3mb. > Also confusing to me is that my console says 30.401 but when > I read the CWOPS info page it says 1028.1 mb.... shouldn't > the barometer reading be the same here and on the internet > site? The console displays sea level reduced pressure, while CWOP is supposed to be getting altimeter pressure (same as what the airport is reporting). If you try to make the console read the same as the airport, you'll never get them to always be the same or close. Are you using a version of Weatherlink that sends altimeter pressure to CWOP? Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com From fcorey at monticelloweather.com Wed Nov 28 18:13:07 2007 From: fcorey at monticelloweather.com (Fred Corey) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:13:07 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data References: Message-ID: <161601c8321c$a204b630$9865fea9@D1GGTN71> WeatherUnderground has free data, although it varies in its frequency intervals from 5 minutes to 1 hour. You can access it at: http://www.wunderground.com. They do have comma delimited data files available (look at the historical data for the sites you are interested in). Hope this helps, Fred Corey. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Engel" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From slottech at gbis.com Wed Nov 28 20:16:35 2007 From: slottech at gbis.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:16:35 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> National Weather Service? Richard www.n7tgb.net -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > -Bob > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > > > Victor > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From charles at owentech.com Wed Nov 28 23:45:40 2007 From: charles at owentech.com (Charles Owen) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:45:40 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> Message-ID: It is not free, but the National Climatic Data Center in Ashville is fairly cheap. It's about 30 dollars per station and 500 dollars for all stations to get the daily records subscriptions... http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html examples: http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/images/199909BDL.txt http://www7.ncdc.noaa.gov/IPS/images/lcdsample.pdf Charles CW4870 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:17 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data National Weather Service? Richard www.n7tgb.net -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > -Bob > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > > > Victor > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Thu Nov 29 08:50:58 2007 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:50:58 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> Message-ID: <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. gerry Richard wrote: > National Weather Service? > > > Richard > www.n7tgb.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: >> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? >> >> http://www.weatherunderground.com >> >> -Bob >> >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, >>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past >>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. >>> >>> Victor >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >> >> >> -- >> JaxWeather.net >> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather >> http://JaxWeather.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From plantlover at ntelos.net Thu Nov 29 11:22:50 2007 From: plantlover at ntelos.net (Michele Fletcher) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:22:50 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] questions In-Reply-To: <3CB78436945441E4AB17DFA65216F986@sauron> Message-ID: Keith, Thank you. I don't know precisely what my weatherlink sends to CWOP. I had thought it sent what was on the console. Michele -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Keith Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:44 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] questions >-----Original Message----- >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Michele Fletcher >Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:18 AM >To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >Subject: [wxqc] questions > > Is that so out of line? (I really don't know but it seems > like hundredths isn't much dif.) Davis Instruments just > re-calibrated everything on my Davis Pro in October. I believe the allowed error is 3mb. > Also confusing to me is that my console says 30.401 but when > I read the CWOPS info page it says 1028.1 mb.... shouldn't > the barometer reading be the same here and on the internet > site? The console displays sea level reduced pressure, while CWOP is supposed to be getting altimeter pressure (same as what the airport is reporting). If you try to make the console read the same as the airport, you'll never get them to always be the same or close. Are you using a version of Weatherlink that sends altimeter pressure to CWOP? Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From brillig at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 13:50:16 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:50:16 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: When does 2007 data become available, or is it available at another link (I can't select 2007 in the query window)? On Nov 29, 2007 8:50 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: > I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet > (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific > requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. > > gerry > > > Richard wrote: > > National Weather Service? > > > > > > Richard > > www.n7tgb.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM > > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data > > > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > >> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > >> > >> http://www.weatherunderground.com > >> > >> -Bob > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > >>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > >>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > >>> > >>> Victor > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> wxqc mailing list > >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >>> > >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> JaxWeather.net > >> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > >> http://JaxWeather.net > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wxqc mailing list > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From brillig at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 15:38:36 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:38:36 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: Never mind. I see that it's possible to get 2007 weather by changing the URL. Perhaps the form just needs to be updated to include 2007. On 11/29/07, Victor Engel wrote: > When does 2007 data become available, or is it available at another > link (I can't select 2007 in the query window)? > > On Nov 29, 2007 8:50 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: > > I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet > > (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific > > requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. > > > > gerry > > > > > > Richard wrote: > > > National Weather Service? > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > www.n7tgb.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM > > > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > > > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data > > > > > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > > > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > > > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > > > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > > > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > > >> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > >> > > >> http://www.weatherunderground.com > > >> > > >> -Bob > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > >>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > >>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > >>> > > >>> Victor > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> wxqc mailing list > > >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > >>> > > >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> JaxWeather.net > > >> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > > >> http://JaxWeather.net > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> wxqc mailing list > > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > >> > > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wxqc mailing list > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wxqc mailing list > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > -- > > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu > > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > From brillig at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 16:12:36 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:12:36 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have tried to find such a link in weatherunderground. I suspected there was one but could never find it. How did you navigate there? On 11/28/07, Bob Johnson wrote: > Well it appears there is daily data but for Metar stations only hourly... > http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KAUS/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html > http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KATT/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html > > -Bob > > > On Nov 28, 2007 7:28 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson < Weather at jaxweather.net> wrote: > > > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > > > > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > > > > > -Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > > > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > wxqc mailing list > > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > JaxWeather.net > > > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > > > http://JaxWeather.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wxqc mailing list > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > -- > JaxFountain.com > Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain > http://JaxFountain.com > -- > WolfStalks Network Properties > http://WolfStalks.com > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From geraldschoenfeld at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 18:21:07 2007 From: geraldschoenfeld at yahoo.com (Gerald Schoenfeld) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:21:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <12759.67218.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I appreciate your several emails. I also had trouble finding a "contact us" link on weather underground's (WU) home page that met my needs--to report a problem with a PWS I was getting readings from. (The contact us link at the bottom of the page led to a list which did not seem to have a link to report a problem.) With no other choice, I sent an email to chuck at weatherunderground.com, who, as I recall, was the person handling advertising; I requested he forward my email to whoever was the appropriate party. The reply a got gave me the wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net site. I still have no idea what that list has to do with WU and has led to a number of emails from the list, which had nothing to do with the original email. I am going to unsubscribe from the list. Thanks for your advice & info. Victor Engel wrote: I have tried to find such a link in weatherunderground. I suspected there was one but could never find it. How did you navigate there? On 11/28/07, Bob Johnson wrote: > Well it appears there is daily data but for Metar stations only hourly... > http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KAUS/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html > http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KATT/2007/11/28/DailyHistory.html > > -Bob > > > On Nov 28, 2007 7:28 PM, Victor Engel wrote: > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson < Weather at jaxweather.net> wrote: > > > Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > > > > > > http://www.weatherunderground.com > > > > > > -Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > > > > and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > > > > couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > > > > > > > > Victor > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > wxqc mailing list > > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > JaxWeather.net > > > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > > > http://JaxWeather.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > wxqc mailing list > > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > -- > JaxWeather.net > Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > http://JaxWeather.net > -- > JaxFountain.com > Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain > http://JaxFountain.com > -- > WolfStalks Network Properties > http://WolfStalks.com > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071129/74b15f61/attachment.html From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Thu Nov 29 20:16:51 2007 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:16:51 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <308EE1DC2CE74FB8AD9FF96FD95C7C87@sauron> > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Michele > Fletcher > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:23 PM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: Re: [wxqc] questions > > > Keith, > Thank you. I don't know precisely what my weatherlink sends > to CWOP. I had thought it sent what was on the console. Whatever shows up on FindU is whats' being sent to CWOP, if you're using the latest version of Weatherlink that should be altimeter. I don't think that's an option, but maybe someone who is using Weatherlink can confirm that. If that's good, make sure the console is configured to the altitude of the console. Then on a day with reasonably stable pressure, undo any previous corrections (if any), then compare the FindU number to the airport. Preferably over a number of hours, or even days, to get a good idea of what (if any) correction is needed. Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com From john.neil.story at cmich.edu Thu Nov 29 21:16:52 2007 From: john.neil.story at cmich.edu (Neil Story) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:16:52 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] lost wind vane Message-ID: <7CDEB6CE-7ADD-4EE2-93AF-372AF2FEA88A@cmich.edu> I have an Oregon Scientific WMR968 wireless weather station using Ambient's Virtual Weather Station software, and VWSaprs for reporting station data. The anemometer has lost its wind vane. The cups are still ok and the wind speed reports are accurate, but the wind direction reports are simply frozen at the reading at the time the vane fell off. I must not have tightened the vane enough. The problem is that the anemometer is fastened at about the 55 foot level of a tip-up tower that will probably not be winched down again until next fall. My question is whether there is a way I can suppress the wind direction portion of the report transmitted by APRS, but leave the wind speed report intact. Any help will be appreciated. Neil CW8824 From dsscheibe at earthlink.net Thu Nov 29 22:36:40 2007 From: dsscheibe at earthlink.net (Scott Scheibe) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:36:40 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] archives Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20071129200247.00c44dc0@pop.earthlink.net> Weather underground looks like it has archives of the 3 years I've been a member. I was down for about two days last week end when the computer hung with an "explorer encountered an error" upon rebooting at midnight while I was on vacation. Never seems to fail something always happens when I'm gone and it goes down. D. Scott Scheibe Scott's Home page Scott's Weather Page Citizen Weather Observer Program Quality reporting Weather Underground Member page From Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov Fri Nov 30 10:15:57 2007 From: Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov (Mike Barth) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:15:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: <12759.67218.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <12759.67218.qm@web59206.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can also get data going back to July 2001 at: http://www.madis-fsl.org/public/sfcdumpguest.html Mike From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Fri Nov 30 10:47:56 2007 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:47:56 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <47503EBC.9000102@tamu.edu> Should be fixed now. Problem of having too many projects and not enough people or funding! Victor Engel wrote: > When does 2007 data become available, or is it available at another > link (I can't select 2007 in the query window)? > > On Nov 29, 2007 8:50 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: >> I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet >> (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific >> requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. >> >> gerry >> >> >> Richard wrote: >>> National Weather Service? >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> www.n7tgb.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM >>> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >>> Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data >>> >>> Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such >>> data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in >>> are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and >>> Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and >>> daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: >>>> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? >>>> >>>> http://www.weatherunderground.com >>>> >>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, >>>>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past >>>>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> wxqc mailing list >>>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>>> >>>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> JaxWeather.net >>>> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather >>>> http://JaxWeather.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> wxqc mailing list >>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>> >>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> -- >> Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu >> Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University >> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 >> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Fri Nov 30 10:50:44 2007 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:50:44 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Test In-Reply-To: References: <998e7b900711270909o31e1ea6aq3261de918a8c6289@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47503F64.1010900@tamu.edu> Got the following from a colleague in Austin who I consider authoritative on the matter: +++++ Gerry- I was with Bill Runyon (DAPM, WFO EWX) when I got your note today. There hasn't been any adjustments of the ASOS pressure sensors at either KATT and KAUS.. in fact, Bill points out that with the three ASOS closed pressure cells in each ASOS, all they do is readjust for the standard feet above sea level.. and then run comparisons twice annually for the official airport sites. At note.. on the afternoon of November 21at 2007z/2:07pm a strong cold front passed KATT.. the front then passed KAUS at about 2040z/2:40pm.. with substantial pressure rises following at both locations. There were no adjustments of the pressure cells at either location. Right now.. at 10pm on Wed/28Nov.. I'm looking at the following surface pressures at KATT and KAUS in comparison with surrounding locations... KATT... 30.20"/hg KAUS... 30.21"/hg KGTU... 30.20"/hg KHYI... 30.22"/hg KBAZ... 30.20"/hg KGYB... 30.22"/hg (all official locations within .02" of each other) +++++ Victor Engel wrote: > OK, I have something. Some months ago, I noticed that the barometric > pressure reported by KAUS and KATT started reporting higher than my > station and the closest station to me. That station and mine had been > essentially in lock step together until I made an adjustment to mine > to be in sync with these two official stations. I was suspicious at > the time that ours were accurate and theres were actually in error. > After a discussion here, I decided to adjust my station. > > Now, they're back to where they were before, leaving my station the > odd man out. Apparently, a calibration took place between the 21st and > 22nd of this month. See > http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C6155?date=20071123&addnl=AS425&addnl=KATT&addnl=KAUS > and go ahead or behind in time to see what I mean. > > AS425 and my station C6155 have always tracked each other +/- small > variations and whatever adjustment I made. Now it looks like I need to > made an adjustment again. But if I do, then I think I never should > have adjusted upward in the first place, and I conclude that the > official stations must have been off in the interim. > > Given the data, how likely does that scenario seem to you? > > Victor > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From webmaster at farmingtonweather.com Fri Nov 30 13:20:26 2007 From: webmaster at farmingtonweather.com (webmaster) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:20:26 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Rain gauge placement question and who becomes a NWS observer? Message-ID: <20071130192028.A3E68B4D8A@relay01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> I was checking out Minnesota's rain measurement program and found that Minnesota set a monthly and day record this past August. The observer was using a NWS-issued 8" diameter guage that can measure 23" of rain. Seems that when the guage was getting near full there would be splashing, reducing accuracy? Either way, his daily total exceeded 23" so he or she must have emptied it at least once during the day. The picture they show of the gauge makes me thing it is located too near a tree? http://climate.umn.edu/img/flash_floods/hokah_location.jpg Also, if you are supposed to be measuring rain at 2' above the ground, wouldn't a 23+" gauge be sitting on the ground? How is it determine who becomes a NWS observer? Is anyone else reporting to a state program in addition to CWOP, Wunderground, etc? Here is a link to Minnesota's program which uses the 4" guage that the CoCoRaHS program uses. http://climate.umn.edu/HIDENsityEdit/HIDENweb.htm Lew ****************************************** Lew - Weathermaster lew at farmingtonweather.com Farmington Weather www.farmingtonweather.com Farmington, Minnesota, USA From sooner44 at valornet.com Fri Nov 30 14:28:59 2007 From: sooner44 at valornet.com (Richard Engle) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:28:59 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Underground contact Message-ID: <001301c8338f$a3cadca0$a0381048@richardr55aq30> You all probably know this, but if you go to the bottom of your station page on WU, there is a "contact us".It will take you to a page where you can click on technical problems or membership problems. Don't do that. Go a further down to where it says if you need additional assistance, contact our support staff. It took me two clicks to get where I needed to be. Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20071130/8162157c/attachment.html From brillig at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 15:25:21 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:25:21 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: Thanks. Three seems to be something wrong with the data, however. For example, select KATT as the station, and select October 1-October 2 of this year for the date range. Now look at the temperature data. That's absurd. Apparently, there are two streams of data that got merged into the KATT data. One is in the range of 50F. The other (correct) is in the range of 80F. Do you have an explanation for this anomaly? Victor On 11/29/07, Gerry Creager wrote: > I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet > (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific > requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. > > gerry > > Richard wrote: > > National Weather Service? > > > > > > Richard > > www.n7tgb.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM > > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > > Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data > > > > Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such > > data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in > > are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and > > Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and > > daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: > >> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? > >> > >> http://www.weatherunderground.com > >> > >> -Bob > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, > >>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past > >>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. > >>> > >>> Victor > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> wxqc mailing list > >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >>> > >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> JaxWeather.net > >> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather > >> http://JaxWeather.net > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wxqc mailing list > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > -- > Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu > Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University > Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 > Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Fri Nov 30 16:04:08 2007 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:04:08 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <475088D8.5010003@tamu.edu> Lemme look at it. Working on about 3 things at once right now. At the least, thanks for helping identify a potential problem. gerry Victor Engel wrote: > Thanks. > > Three seems to be something wrong with the data, however. For example, > select KATT as the station, and select October 1-October 2 of this > year for the date range. Now look at the temperature data. That's > absurd. Apparently, there are two streams of data that got merged into > the KATT data. One is in the range of 50F. The other (correct) is in > the range of 80F. Do you have an explanation for this anomaly? > > Victor > > On 11/29/07, Gerry Creager wrote: >> I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet >> (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific >> requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. >> >> gerry >> >> Richard wrote: >>> National Weather Service? >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> www.n7tgb.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM >>> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >>> Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data >>> >>> Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such >>> data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in >>> are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and >>> Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and >>> daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: >>>> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? >>>> >>>> http://www.weatherunderground.com >>>> >>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brillig at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of a site that provides free temperature, humidity, >>>>> and barometer data at 15 minute or hourly intervals for the past >>>>> couple of years? I'm interested in 4 specific stations. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> wxqc mailing list >>>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>>> >>>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> JaxWeather.net >>>> Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather >>>> http://JaxWeather.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> wxqc mailing list >>>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>>> >>>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> -- >> Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu >> Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University >> Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 >> Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.862.3982 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 From gerry.creager at tamu.edu Fri Nov 30 16:13:26 2007 From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:13:26 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data In-Reply-To: References: <017001c8322d$de1f75e0$0501a8c0@Richardn> <474ED1D2.6040401@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <47508B06.3060308@tamu.edu> Interesting anomaly. I need to look at a couple of other neighboring sites. The way we get those data that shouldn't happen but I'll do some manual work on it and see if we can fix the problem. Thanks again for identifying a problem. Regards, Gerry Victor Engel wrote: > Thanks. > > Three seems to be something wrong with the data, however. For example, > select KATT as the station, and select October 1-October 2 of this > year for the date range. Now look at the temperature data. That's > absurd. Apparently, there are two streams of data that got merged into > the KATT data. One is in the range of 50F. The other (correct) is in > the range of 80F. Do you have an explanation for this anomaly? > > Victor > > On 11/29/07, Gerry Creager wrote: >> I will try to improve the archive interface for the Texas Mesonet >> (http://mesonet.tamu.edu/archives.php) but if there are specific >> requests, let me know and I'll try to accommodate them. >> >> gerry >> >> Richard wrote: >>> National Weather Service? >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> www.n7tgb.net >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:28 PM >>> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >>> Subject: Re: [wxqc] Historical Weather Data >>> >>> Unless I'm missing something, weatherunderground does not provide such >>> data for most official stations. Two of the stations I'm interested in >>> are the two official stations of Austin: Austin Bergstrom (KAUS) and >>> Camp Mabry (KATT). Weatherunderground has current data for them and >>> daily summaries and almanac information, but not much more. >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:20 PM, Bob Johnson wrote: >>>> Depending on what areas or stations have you tried WeatherUnderground? >>>> >>>> http://www.weatherunderground.com >>>> >>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 28, 2007 4:04 PM, Victor Engel < brilli