From dsscheibe at earthlink.net Wed Aug 1 02:20:31 2007 From: dsscheibe at earthlink.net (Scott Scheibe) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:20:31 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070801001454.00bb55d0@pop.earthlink.net> I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws and pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try the base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick and tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is shinning but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. D. Scott Scheibe From dburson at cox.net Wed Aug 1 04:11:09 2007 From: dburson at cox.net (Dustin S Burson) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:11:09 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20070801001454.00bb55d0@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000001c7d41b$e6c4c850$6c01a8c0@DUSTINLT> I contacted OSI (Oregon Scientific), and since my unit is still under warranty that I need to send the aneometer within 3 days of calling them and they will ship me out a new one. Of course that was only after waiting 20 minutes or so for a customer service rep to become available due to "high call volumes" At least I don't have to purchase a whole new anemeter. Dustin Wunderground KKSNEWTO2 CWOP AS619 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Scott Scheibe Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:21 AM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws and pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try the base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick and tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is shinning but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. D. Scott Scheibe _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From radiotech at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 1 05:18:29 2007 From: radiotech at bellsouth.net (Alan Alsobrook) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:18:29 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction In-Reply-To: <000201c7d3b1$c44a1510$6c01a8c0@DUSTINLT> References: <000201c7d3b1$c44a1510$6c01a8c0@DUSTINLT> Message-ID: <46B05DF5.1020302@bellsouth.net> I'm sorry I misunderstood your problem. I thought you had lost both wind speed and direction. The wind speed sensor is magnetic, but the direction sensor is a potentiometer (variable resistor) If it's stuck on North (guessing 000 deg) then I would guess the pot (or following circuitry) has gone open or shorted. Since OS is going to give you a new one under warranty lets not worry about which it really is. Side note: just in case everyone that has the OS unit hasn't figured this one out, you don't have to calibrate it to South (as per the directions) if it would work better in a different direction. Simply determine the direction you will be pointing it in and with the unit near the base station set the pot to give you the right reading and then slip the pointer on and tighten the screw. Dustin S Burson wrote: > Okay, we tried to reset the sensor by pushing the button inside the > solar panel.. Still shows wind from north, and not updating.. wind > SPEED still works though. -- Alan Alsobrook CSRE AMD CBNT St. Augustine Fl. 32086 904-829-8885 aalso at Bellsouth.net From ASchw at att.net Wed Aug 1 14:20:53 2007 From: ASchw at att.net (ASchw at att.net) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:20:53 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction Message-ID: <080120071920.23783.46B0DD14000A8D6800005CE7216028130299080CACBE@att.net> I've had my anemometer installed over 7 years and never had to climb up to do any repairs on it. I have the small size solar cell on it and no extra batteries in it. It has lost communications maybe once or twice a year but I was always able to get it back by resetting the base station. Not that I'm overly impressed by OSI's quality or service but I consider myself lucky on that one. Armin. -------------- Original message from Scott Scheibe : -------------- > I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the > ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws and > pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try the > base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick and > tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is shinning > but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. > > > > > D. Scott Scheibe > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/50f6f58f/attachment.htm From ikishk+wxqc at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 14:28:37 2007 From: ikishk+wxqc at gmail.com (Isaac Kishk (CW6261)) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:28:37 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction In-Reply-To: <080120071920.23783.46B0DD14000A8D6800005CE7216028130299080CACBE@att.net> References: <080120071920.23783.46B0DD14000A8D6800005CE7216028130299080CACBE@att.net> Message-ID: recent area lightning has made mine not report speed or direction. little red light still blinks :) and various resets didnt fix it. I'm actually kinda glad, i HATE this OSWMR968, I needed a reason to upgrade to something better. On 8/1/07, ASchw at att.net wrote: > > > > > I've had my anemometer installed over 7 years and never had to climb up to > do any repairs on it. I have the small size solar cell on it and no extra > batteries in it. It has lost communications maybe once or twice a year but I > was always able to get it back by resetting the base station. Not that I'm > overly impressed by OSI's quality or service but I consider myself lucky on > that one. > > > > Armin. > > > > -------------- Original message from Scott Scheibe > : -------------- > > > > I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the > > ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws and > > pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try the > > base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick and > > tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is shinning > > but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. > > > > > > > > > > D. Scott Scheibe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- www.kishk.org www.poutcarriers.com From sunflowerpixels at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 16:15:12 2007 From: sunflowerpixels at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:15:12 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction References: <080120071920.23783.46B0DD14000A8D6800005CE7216028130299080CACBE@att.net> Message-ID: <00f501c7d481$0c8b6480$6700a8c0@anonymous> Yes Isaac, this about the upteenth time you've had something derogatory to say about WMR-968 and you definitely ought to pursue another brand and while you're at, maybe you can adjust the server to collects your CWOP data. I've had my 968 going on three years and the only flaw I've experienced has been the software I was using. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Kishk (CW6261)" To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction > recent area lightning has made mine not report speed or direction. > little red light still blinks :) and various resets didnt fix it. I'm > actually kinda glad, i HATE this OSWMR968, I needed a reason to > upgrade to something better. > > On 8/1/07, ASchw at att.net wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I've had my anemometer installed over 7 years and never had to climb up >> to >> do any repairs on it. I have the small size solar cell on it and no extra >> batteries in it. It has lost communications maybe once or twice a year >> but I >> was always able to get it back by resetting the base station. Not that >> I'm >> overly impressed by OSI's quality or service but I consider myself lucky >> on >> that one. >> >> >> >> Armin. >> >> >> >> -------------- Original message from Scott Scheibe >> : -------------- >> >> >> > I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the >> > ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws >> > and >> > pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try >> > the >> > base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick >> > and >> > tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is >> > shinning >> > but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > D. Scott Scheibe >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > wxqc mailing list >> > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> > >> > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > > > -- > www.kishk.org > www.poutcarriers.com > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From ikishk+wxqc at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 16:19:54 2007 From: ikishk+wxqc at gmail.com (Isaac Kishk (CW6261)) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:19:54 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction In-Reply-To: <00f501c7d481$0c8b6480$6700a8c0@anonymous> References: <080120071920.23783.46B0DD14000A8D6800005CE7216028130299080CACBE@att.net> <00f501c7d481$0c8b6480$6700a8c0@anonymous> Message-ID: isnt even a software thing w/ these. the "bad" data is on the console. I used to love this device, until various modules just stopped working :) I've mentioned exact details on my issues, so i'm not just blatanly putting it down. Its just not a "pro-sumer" product, its more like a casual toy. btw, I use wx200d on linux and it's been flawless. On 8/1/07, Don Palmer wrote: > Yes Isaac, this about the upteenth time you've had something derogatory to > say about WMR-968 and you definitely ought to pursue another brand and while > you're at, maybe you can adjust the server to collects your CWOP data. I've > had my 968 going on three years and the only flaw I've experienced has been > the software I was using. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Isaac Kishk (CW6261)" > To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [wxqc] WMR-968 wind direction > > > > recent area lightning has made mine not report speed or direction. > > little red light still blinks :) and various resets didnt fix it. I'm > > actually kinda glad, i HATE this OSWMR968, I needed a reason to > > upgrade to something better. > > > > On 8/1/07, ASchw at att.net wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I've had my anemometer installed over 7 years and never had to climb up > >> to > >> do any repairs on it. I have the small size solar cell on it and no extra > >> batteries in it. It has lost communications maybe once or twice a year > >> but I > >> was always able to get it back by resetting the base station. Not that > >> I'm > >> overly impressed by OSI's quality or service but I consider myself lucky > >> on > >> that one. > >> > >> > >> > >> Armin. > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- Original message from Scott Scheibe > >> : -------------- > >> > >> > >> > I always have to reset the sending unit which entails dragging the > >> > ladder out of the garage climbing up there removing the 6 small screws > >> > and > >> > pushing the recessed reset button. I'm tired of doing it. I always try > >> > the > >> > base station but doing so has never worked that I can recall. I'm sick > >> > and > >> > tired of having to mess with it. I works ok as long as the sun is > >> > shinning > >> > but seems to always quit when a storm comes up. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > D. Scott Scheibe > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > wxqc mailing list > >> > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> > > >> > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wxqc mailing list > >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >> > >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > >> > > > > > > -- > > www.kishk.org > > www.poutcarriers.com > > _______________________________________________ > > wxqc mailing list > > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- www.kishk.org www.poutcarriers.com From Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com Wed Aug 1 17:28:49 2007 From: Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com (Don Jeerings) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:28:49 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings Message-ID: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> I went through a similar situation with LeCrosse equipment. It gave me so much trouble that I considered it a piece of junk and lost all faith in it. I went to a Davis unit that is doing a pretty good job except that I am a radio amateur radio operator and would like to put in on APRS. After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to spend an additional $195 to replace an data logging device to put the data into a APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this becomes an additional expendure of over $220 I am looking at the Peet system is pretty high quality and no special equipment is required. I am not mad at the Davis equipment performance but very angry with the manufacture, They have not acknowledged my E -mails, At this time I am frustrated and want a new system. I know how your feel. let us know what you decide to but... Snakers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/5c3b6a89/attachment.htm From brillig at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 18:11:42 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:11:42 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings In-Reply-To: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: I don't understand what you were expecting from the Davis unit that you didn't get. On 8/1/07, Don Jeerings wrote: > > > I went through a similar situation with LeCrosse equipment. It gave me so > much trouble that I considered it a piece of junk and lost all faith in it. > > I went to a Davis unit that is doing a pretty good job except that I am a > radio amateur radio operator and would like to put in on APRS. > After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to spend > an additional $195 to replace an data logging device to put the data into a > APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the > literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this > becomes an additional expendure of over $220 > > I am looking at the Peet system is pretty high quality and no special > equipment is required. > > I am not mad at the Davis equipment performance but very angry with the > manufacture, They have not acknowledged my E -mails, At this time I am > frustrated and want a new system. I know how your feel. > > let us know what you decide to but... > > Snakers > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com Wed Aug 1 18:43:31 2007 From: Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com (Don Jeerings) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:43:31 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] frustrations Message-ID: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> It's as simple as this... The Davis unit requires a 6540 weatherlink for APRS at $195 I bought a Davis (wired) Vantage pro II that came with a 6510Ser unit that I paid $165 extra for that will not work with the BYONICS Tiny Trak3 or any other TNC (terminal node controller) that I can find. When I purchased the Davis unit, there was no mention of the need and availably of the 6540 unit for APRS transmissions. This has become a big issue with at least 60 SKYWARN Florida Radio operators in the hurricane prone central Florida area and is a major subject on the weekly SKYWARN net operated by volunteers with the National Weather Service. I am frustrated and feel that I have been taken advantage of. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/6cf905fd/attachment.htm From bbeeman at beemangroup.com Wed Aug 1 18:45:43 2007 From: bbeeman at beemangroup.com (Bill Beeman) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:45:43 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings In-Reply-To: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <00e801c7d496$1af9a620$50ecf260$@com> >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:29 PM >Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings > >I went through a similar situation with LeCrosse equipment. It gave me so much trouble that I considered it a piece of junk? and lost all faith in >it. >? >I went to a Davis unit that is doing a pretty good job except that?I am a radio amateur radio operator and would like to put in on APRS.? >After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to?spend??an additional $195 to replace an?data logging device to put the?data into >a APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this >becomes an additional expendure of over $220 I must be missing something here...I've got one of the original Vantage Pro (with the older style radios) and the original data logger. It has been reporting in APRS format since day one, using the Davis Weatherlink software, although I believe there is other software (including, if I remember correctly) some freeware, or low cost shareware. You don't need the fancy new interface, if you are willing to run the data through logging software. Regards, Bill, KB0RF From steve at softwx.com Wed Aug 1 18:54:34 2007 From: steve at softwx.com (Steve Hatchett) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:54:34 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] frustrations In-Reply-To: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <002501c7d497$51cd0790$f56716b0$@com> I'm assuming the regular data logger is not desirable to you because of the need for a computer to run software that sends APRS/CWOP data, because there are several free programs for doing that. In that case, you could sell the data logger you have and get the APRS version. The data logger you have would be very easy to sell. Just put a post on one of the forums that cater to home weather station owners. You should be able to knock the price to $20 less than a new unit from a discount source and sell it quickly. See www.provantage.com for close to the cheapest prices on davis equipment (a fair amount below suggested retail price), and price accordingly. Steve -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: 08/01/2007 5:44 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] frustrations It's as simple as this... The Davis unit requires a 6540 weatherlink for APRS at $195 I bought a Davis (wired) Vantage pro II that came with a 6510Ser unit that I paid $165 extra for that will not work with the BYONICS Tiny Trak3 or any other TNC (terminal node controller) that I can find. When I purchased the Davis unit, there was no mention of the need and availably of the 6540 unit for APRS transmissions. This has become a big issue with at least 60 SKYWARN Florida Radio operators in the hurricane prone central Florida area and is a major subject on the weekly SKYWARN net operated by volunteers with the National Weather Service. I am frustrated and feel that I have been taken advantage of. From slottech at gbis.com Wed Aug 1 19:11:28 2007 From: slottech at gbis.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:11:28 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] frustrations In-Reply-To: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <065b01c7d499$ac6a7050$0501a8c0@Richardn> So you're angry with Davis because you didn't ask questions and research it before your purchase? Why not use the Weatherlink software and upload the aprs weather data through the internet? It works for me. Richard www.n7tgb.net _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:44 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] frustrations It's as simple as this... The Davis unit requires a 6540 weatherlink for APRS at $195 I bought a Davis (wired) Vantage pro II that came with a 6510Ser unit that I paid $165 extra for that will not work with the BYONICS Tiny Trak3 or any other TNC (terminal node controller) that I can find. When I purchased the Davis unit, there was no mention of the need and availably of the 6540 unit for APRS transmissions. This has become a big issue with at least 60 SKYWARN Florida Radio operators in the hurricane prone central Florida area and is a major subject on the weekly SKYWARN net operated by volunteers with the National Weather Service. I am frustrated and feel that I have been taken advantage of. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/4eed01b8/attachment.htm From Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com Wed Aug 1 19:17:04 2007 From: Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com (Don Jeerings) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:17:04 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated Message-ID: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> The computer is useless when the internet and/or the power goes down during a hurricane or local storm. The Radio link becomes the major means of communicating data to the weather service. 12 volts power for the radio and TNC is no problem. During a storm the computer has little purpose except to record what's happening for later analysis. The National Weather Service needs the data to be current. Today we had many local storms cross the state. The lightning strike counter has run continuously ( remember we are the second largest thunderstorm capitol in the word) Our 60 some SkyWarn storm spotters were active all day with direct communications to the Weather Service and the county EOC's . My cable connection only dropped out once today. This may be difficult to understand for you people that only have a few storms a year. Gentlemen, please forgive me for being so wound up, as I said, I am frustrated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/8d88d0d2/attachment.htm From shell at shellware.com Wed Aug 1 19:37:29 2007 From: shell at shellware.com (Shell Shrader) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:37:29 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated In-Reply-To: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <9E15EDC0-4308-4EEB-B9F1-EA800083FBB5@mimectl> Assuming your phone line / internet connection stays up during a power outage, you may find a mini-itx computer that meets your needs. I've got a very nice via mini-itx and case that has a 12V input... pulls all of maybe 10 amps... of course it's going to cost you a lot more than $165 to get it where it needs to be... the case alone costs that.... add a 900-1000W UPS to it and there's another $165. Sounds to me like the davis link is a bargain :) From: Don Jeerings Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 8:17 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] frustrated The computer is useless when the internet and/or the power goes down during a hurricane or local storm. The Radio link becomes the major means of communicating data to the weather service. 12 volts power for the radio and TNC is no problem. During a storm the computer has little purpose except to record what's happening for later analysis. The National Weather Service needs the data to be current. Today we had many local storms cross the state. The lightning strike counter has run continuously ( remember we are the second largest thunderstorm capitol in the word) Our 60 some SkyWarn storm spotters were active all day with direct communications to the Weather Service and the county EOC's . My cable connection only dropped out once today. This may be difficult to understand for you people that only have a few storms a year. Gentlemen, please forgive me for being so wound up, as I said, I am frustrated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/ec2e4515/attachment.htm From steve at softwx.com Wed Aug 1 19:38:27 2007 From: steve at softwx.com (Steve Hatchett) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:38:27 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated In-Reply-To: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <003201c7d49d$72fd37e0$58f7a7a0$@com> My APRS/CWOP data is generated by a dedicated older laptop that has a low power draw, its own internal battery, and is connected to a UPS as well. It also has all power settings set for minimal power usage (for example the screen shuts off after 1 minute of inactivity). It can run for quite a long time after the power goes out. I know that there are ham folks that submit via radio the data collected and formatted by software running on a computer. But if you really want the direct to radio from the data logger, look into the option of selling your current data logger and buying the one you wanted. It would be a lot less than buying a whole new weather station. Steve -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: 08/01/2007 6:17 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] frustrated The computer is useless when the internet and/or the power goes down during a hurricane or local storm. The Radio link becomes the major means of communicating data to the weather service. 12 volts power for the radio and TNC is no problem. During a storm the computer has little purpose except to record what's happening for later analysis. The National Weather Service needs the data to be current. Today we had many local storms cross the state. The lightning strike counter has run continuously ( remember we are the second largest thunderstorm capitol in the word) Our 60 some SkyWarn storm spotters were active all day with direct communications to the Weather Service and the county EOC's . My cable connection only dropped out once today. This may be difficult to understand for you people that only have a few storms a year. Gentlemen, please forgive me for being so wound up, as I said, I am frustrated. From jdotson at hughes.net Wed Aug 1 19:58:02 2007 From: jdotson at hughes.net (Jody Dotson) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:58:02 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated In-Reply-To: <003201c7d49d$72fd37e0$58f7a7a0$@com> References: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> <003201c7d49d$72fd37e0$58f7a7a0$@com> Message-ID: <46B12C1A.6030509@hughes.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/3757cfc4/attachment.htm From paulgrace at lookoutranch.com Wed Aug 1 20:23:52 2007 From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com (Paul Grace) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:23:52 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated [OT] ISP idea In-Reply-To: <46B12C1A.6030509@hughes.net> References: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer><003201c7d49d$72fd37e0$58f7a7a0$@com> <46B12C1A.6030509@hughes.net> Message-ID: <002b01c7d4a3$c987b3a0$0200a8c0@dell1500> I had Hughes for 4 years, and tried Wildblue for 2 now. WB has been far better. Download and upload very near promised levels, very high uptime. Some have had bad luck with WB, others with HN, so your mileage may vary, but you might want to try WB for a month before your HN subscription ends to compare at your site. Dropping out of WB within a month is painless if it isn't better. _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Jody Dotson Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 17:58 To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] frustrated My biggest problem is the hughes.net satellite internet connection on my setup. I've been looking at setting up a 2 meter ham to avoid the blackouts during bad weather. UPS doesn't help when the internet connection is down for an hour at a time due to bad weather. Steve Hatchett wrote: My APRS/CWOP data is generated by a dedicated older laptop that has a low power draw, its own internal battery, and is connected to a UPS as well. It also has all power settings set for minimal power usage (for example the screen shuts off after 1 minute of inactivity). It can run for quite a long time after the power goes out. I know that there are ham folks that submit via radio the data collected and formatted by software running on a computer. But if you really want the direct to radio from the data logger, look into the option of selling your current data logger and buying the one you wanted. It would be a lot less than buying a whole new weather station. Steve -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: 08/01/2007 6:17 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] frustrated The computer is useless when the internet and/or the power goes down during a hurricane or local storm. The Radio link becomes the major means of communicating data to the weather service. 12 volts power for the radio and TNC is no problem. During a storm the computer has little purpose except to record what's happening for later analysis. The National Weather Service needs the data to be current. Today we had many local storms cross the state. The lightning strike counter has run continuously ( remember we are the second largest thunderstorm capitol in the word) Our 60 some SkyWarn storm spotters were active all day with direct communications to the Weather Service and the county EOC's . My cable connection only dropped out once today. This may be difficult to understand for you people that only have a few storms a year. Gentlemen, please forgive me for being so wound up, as I said, I am frustrated. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/9ab07edb/attachment.htm From kn4lf at earthlink.net Wed Aug 1 20:31:35 2007 From: kn4lf at earthlink.net (Thomas Giella KN4LF) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:31:35 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Frustrations Message-ID: <000701c7d4a4$de176a30$6401a8c0@thomas> You guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Don and I both use Weather Display software to put our weather data on the WWW via the APRS system to the NWS from our Davis VP2 weather stations. However that setup would be a useless during an emergency like a hurricane strike, as we found out during the 2004 hurricane season when power failed and cable and telephone service went out. Don and I had generators for local power backup but the cable and phone company's didn't so our weather stations were dead in the water as far as data transfer. APRS was invented by a ham radio operator and Don (KI4EFL) and I (KN4LF) are also ham radio operators and want to transmit our weather data to APRS via our 2 meter transceivers. We both purchased the data logger/PC/radio interfaces from Davis to do so but after spending allot of money for the interfaces we found out that we needed a different interface that costs even more $$$, to be able to interface our VP 2's with our 2 meter rigs. We did research the situation and were led to believe that we had purchased the correct interfaces only to find out otherwise. As an example Peet Brothers weather stations have the data logger/PC/radio interface built in with no accessory purchase necessary. I spent in excess of $1000 for my VP 2 weather station and it's irritating to see that Davis has no interest in making it clear in their literature and on their website as to which interface is necessary for interfacing a weather station to a 2 meter transceiver. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm From tim5719 at chartermi.net Wed Aug 1 21:42:14 2007 From: tim5719 at chartermi.net (Tim Crummel) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:42:14 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings In-Reply-To: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> References: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: <003101c7d4ae$bc2d6c80$6400a8c0@delld3000n> HI. I own a Peet Bros 2100 with all the new"pro" sensors. I am very happy with this unit and you could not ask for better support. If you have a problem with you unit and it is still in warranty the will ship you a new base unit with a RA # so that you can exchange your unit. They stand behind their equipment 100%. _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:29 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings I went through a similar situation with LeCrosse equipment. It gave me so much trouble that I considered it a piece of junk and lost all faith in it. I went to a Davis unit that is doing a pretty good job except that I am a radio amateur radio operator and would like to put in on APRS. After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to spend an additional $195 to replace an data logging device to put the data into a APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this becomes an additional expendure of over $220 I am looking at the Peet system is pretty high quality and no special equipment is required. I am not mad at the Davis equipment performance but very angry with the manufacture, They have not acknowledged my E -mails, At this time I am frustrated and want a new system. I know how your feel. let us know what you decide to but... Snakers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/db6cc7f9/attachment.htm From slottech at gbis.com Wed Aug 1 22:09:24 2007 From: slottech at gbis.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:09:24 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings In-Reply-To: <003101c7d4ae$bc2d6c80$6400a8c0@delld3000n> References: <001201c7d48b$55292150$6401a8c0@donscomputer> <003101c7d4ae$bc2d6c80$6400a8c0@delld3000n> Message-ID: <004501c7d4b2$87a62bb0$0501a8c0@Richardn> I have a Davis VantagePro2 and I know they will stand behind their products also. When I had a problem with my ISS, I was able to talk to a real technician, and we managed, over several phone calls, to find and fix the problem. Richard www.n7tgb.net _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Tim Crummel Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 7:42 PM To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings HI. I own a Peet Bros 2100 with all the new"pro" sensors. I am very happy with this unit and you could not ask for better support. If you have a problem with you unit and it is still in warranty the will ship you a new base unit with a RA # so that you can exchange your unit. They stand behind their equipment 100%. _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:29 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings I went through a similar situation with LeCrosse equipment. It gave me so much trouble that I considered it a piece of junk and lost all faith in it. I went to a Davis unit that is doing a pretty good job except that I am a radio amateur radio operator and would like to put in on APRS. After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to spend an additional $195 to replace an data logging device to put the data into a APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this becomes an additional expendure of over $220 I am looking at the Peet system is pretty high quality and no special equipment is required. I am not mad at the Davis equipment performance but very angry with the manufacture, They have not acknowledged my E -mails, At this time I am frustrated and want a new system. I know how your feel. let us know what you decide to but... Snakers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/aa26a6ba/attachment-0001.htm From support at never-enuff.net Wed Aug 1 22:21:12 2007 From: support at never-enuff.net (Customer Care) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:21:12 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Frustrations In-Reply-To: <000701c7d4a4$de176a30$6401a8c0@thomas> Message-ID: One item you might want to look into is a getting a cheap tracfone(or any other cell phone) that has the ability to connect to a pc via an inexpensive interface cable then create a script that pings your normal isp and if/when it fails it can dialup via the tracfone to a backup dialup account that you may have. Being a ISP I use this method at home and if my home has a power outage or bad weather takes down my data lines to my house, my computer tells the cell phone to dialup and creates a dialup link that then emails my pager and regular cell phone, then hangs up to help save minutes, this could also be done to upload weatherstation data as well. Some of the new cellphones even have internet capabilities for a few bux more a month. Cheap insurance to keep the data flowing. Just my thought of the day. Dickie Bradford Never-Enuff Technologies 961 9th Street P.O.Box 426 Colver, Pennsylvania -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.never-enuff.net email: support at never-enuff.net Phone: 800-647-3145 Fax: 814-569-1934 -------------------------------------------------------------- (A)bort, (R)etry, (S)mack the @#$&*~ thing! -------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Thomas Giella KN4LF Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:32 PM To: a WXQC e-List Subject: Re: [wxqc] Frustrations You guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Don and I both use Weather Display software to put our weather data on the WWW via the APRS system to the NWS from our Davis VP2 weather stations. However that setup would be a useless during an emergency like a hurricane strike, as we found out during the 2004 hurricane season when power failed and cable and telephone service went out. Don and I had generators for local power backup but the cable and phone company's didn't so our weather stations were dead in the water as far as data transfer. APRS was invented by a ham radio operator and Don (KI4EFL) and I (KN4LF) are also ham radio operators and want to transmit our weather data to APRS via our 2 meter transceivers. We both purchased the data logger/PC/radio interfaces from Davis to do so but after spending allot of money for the interfaces we found out that we needed a different interface that costs even more $$$, to be able to interface our VP 2's with our 2 meter rigs. We did research the situation and were led to believe that we had purchased the correct interfaces only to find out otherwise. As an example Peet Brothers weather stations have the data logger/PC/radio interface built in with no accessory purchase necessary. I spent in excess of $1000 for my VP 2 weather station and it's irritating to see that Davis has no interest in making it clear in their literature and on their website as to which interface is necessary for interfacing a weather station to a 2 meter transceiver. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM From jrobinson at emwin.hcad.org Wed Aug 1 22:33:06 2007 From: jrobinson at emwin.hcad.org (Jim Robinson) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:33:06 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] frustrated [OT] ISP idea In-Reply-To: <002b01c7d4a3$c987b3a0$0200a8c0@dell1500> References: <001a01c7d49a$74b4b340$6401a8c0@donscomputer> <003201c7d49d$72fd37e0$58f7a7a0$@com> <46B12C1A.6030509@hughes.net> <002b01c7d4a3$c987b3a0$0200a8c0@dell1500> Message-ID: I've been using a computer and APC Back-UPS XS 1000 with my Davis VantagePro II to transmit to CWOP via the Wildblue satellite for nearly 2 years. Both the computer and Wildblue modem are powered through the XS 1000. This combination gives me about 2 hours of run time in the event of a general power failure. Jim Robinson, K5PNV CWOP AS158 At 08:23 PM 8/1/2007, you wrote: >I had Hughes for 4 years, and tried Wildblue for 2 now. WB has been >far better. Download and upload very near promised levels, very >high uptime. Some have had bad luck with WB, others with HN, so >your mileage may vary, but you might want to try WB for a month >before your HN subscription ends to compare at your site. Dropping >out of WB within a month is painless if it isn't better. > > >---------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070801/ee4e6a85/attachment.htm From bryce at azlab.net Wed Aug 1 22:37:10 2007 From: bryce at azlab.net (Bryce Alexander) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:37:10 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] CW7166 off the air (for now) Message-ID: <025401c7d4b6$6b80d490$03371e0a@Artemis> I am getting spikes of erroneous data, the last two nights I got gusts of wind at 61, and 62mph respectively. Problem is that it didn't really happen; I think I would have noticed a gust like that when the ambient wind was less than 20mph. In the past some of my temp and dew point readings have had similar anomalous spikes (such as a moment of freezing temperature in June in Arizona). I just figure that if I cannot send reliable data, then it is safer to send no data at all. I am posting this just in case someone tries to interpret these last two gusts as real (there were thunderstorms in the area). My recent data should be rejected as untrustworthy. I am in the middle of building my own station using one-wire technology, so I will be back on line as my hobby time permits. From brillig at gmail.com Wed Aug 1 22:40:08 2007 From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:40:08 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CW7166 off the air (for now) In-Reply-To: <025401c7d4b6$6b80d490$03371e0a@Artemis> References: <025401c7d4b6$6b80d490$03371e0a@Artemis> Message-ID: I wish my neighbor would do the same. Frankly, I'm tired of his obviously bad data showing up on weatherunderground. It really does nobody any good. Currently, he'd producing a lot of bad temperature and humidity data. His wind tends to spike in rainy weather, too. http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTXAUSTI4 He's two doors down from me, so I could walk over and chat with him. What would you guys do in my situation? http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTXAUSTI48 (mine, for comparison) Victor On 8/1/07, Bryce Alexander wrote: > I am getting spikes of erroneous data, the last two nights I got gusts of > wind at 61, and 62mph respectively. Problem is that it didn't really happen; > I think I would have noticed a gust like that when the ambient wind was less > than 20mph. > > In the past some of my temp and dew point readings have had similar > anomalous spikes (such as a moment of freezing temperature in June in > Arizona). > > I just figure that if I cannot send reliable data, then it is safer to send > no data at all. > > I am posting this just in case someone tries to interpret these last two > gusts as real (there were thunderstorms in the area). My recent data should > be rejected as untrustworthy. > > I am in the middle of building my own station using one-wire technology, so > I will be back on line as my hobby time permits. > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com Wed Aug 1 22:42:11 2007 From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (Keith Miller) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:42:11 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] frustrations In-Reply-To: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Message-ID: >-----Original Message----- >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Don Jeerings >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 7:44 PM >To: Discussion of weather data quality issues >Subject: [wxqc] frustrations > > When I purchased the Davis unit, there was no mention of the > need and availably of the 6540 unit for APRS transmissions. > In a way, I do have to agree, one really has to dig through the documentation to figure out that the "Weatherlink for APRS" is intended to be connected to a TNC. I spent much time trying figure out what the difference was. But I tend to read every manual before I decide what to buy. And Davis support can get to be strange if you ask them a question they didn't expect. I once asked for clearification about how ID's are assigned *if* I added another station. The reply was to call so they could review my setup?!?!?!?! Keith -- CW5250 => http://weather.stadhaugh.com From bryce at azlab.net Wed Aug 1 22:51:47 2007 From: bryce at azlab.net (Bryce Alexander) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:51:47 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Frustrations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <025501c7d4b8$76733080$03371e0a@Artemis> I wouldn't recommend falling back to a cell phone in a hurricane area, the local cell towers and their connection to the local phone carriers are just as susceptible to outages as the regular phones and the power. APRS is the only way to go during a true disaster. Oh, and thanks from the heart for those of you who have shouldered the additional cost to get the data out. -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Customer Care Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:21 PM To: Discussion of weather data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Frustrations One item you might want to look into is a getting a cheap tracfone(or any other cell phone) that has the ability to connect to a pc via an inexpensive interface cable then create a script that pings your normal isp and if/when it fails it can dialup via the tracfone to a backup dialup account that you may have. Being a ISP I use this method at home and if my home has a power outage or bad weather takes down my data lines to my house, my computer tells the cell phone to dialup and creates a dialup link that then emails my pager and regular cell phone, then hangs up to help save minutes, this could also be done to upload weatherstation data as well. Some of the new cellphones even have internet capabilities for a few bux more a month. Cheap insurance to keep the data flowing. Just my thought of the day. Dickie Bradford Never-Enuff Technologies 961 9th Street P.O.Box 426 Colver, Pennsylvania -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.never-enuff.net email: support at never-enuff.net Phone: 800-647-3145 Fax: 814-569-1934 -------------------------------------------------------------- (A)bort, (R)etry, (S)mack the @#$&*~ thing! -------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Thomas Giella KN4LF Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:32 PM To: a WXQC e-List Subject: Re: [wxqc] Frustrations You guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Don and I both use Weather Display software to put our weather data on the WWW via the APRS system to the NWS from our Davis VP2 weather stations. However that setup would be a useless during an emergency like a hurricane strike, as we found out during the 2004 hurricane season when power failed and cable and telephone service went out. Don and I had generators for local power backup but the cable and phone company's didn't so our weather stations were dead in the water as far as data transfer. APRS was invented by a ham radio operator and Don (KI4EFL) and I (KN4LF) are also ham radio operators and want to transmit our weather data to APRS via our 2 meter transceivers. We both purchased the data logger/PC/radio interfaces from Davis to do so but after spending allot of money for the interfaces we found out that we needed a different interface that costs even more $$$, to be able to interface our VP 2's with our 2 meter rigs. We did research the situation and were led to believe that we had purchased the correct interfaces only to find out otherwise. As an example Peet Brothers weather stations have the data logger/PC/radio interface built in with no accessory purchase necessary. I spent in excess of $1000 for my VP 2 weather station and it's irritating to see that Davis has no interest in making it clear in their literature and on their website as to which interface is necessary for interfacing a weather station to a 2 meter transceiver. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From steve at softwx.com Wed Aug 1 22:54:34 2007 From: steve at softwx.com (Steve Hatchett) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:54:34 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Frustrations In-Reply-To: <000701c7d4a4$de176a30$6401a8c0@thomas> References: <000701c7d4a4$de176a30$6401a8c0@thomas> Message-ID: <005201c7d4b8$d8755e70$89601b50$@com> I understand there is a difference between radio vs. internet transmission. I was just putting out there that there is a solution where a standard VP data logger can be used to transmit via radio if there is a PC in the mix. You can use software (WD, VPLive, and others) to generate the wxnow.txt file that can then be transmitted via radio, not the internet, using various APRS software packages such as ui-view. I'm no ham expert, but it was my understanding that at least some people are doing it this way, since it was a ham that asked me to add wxnow.txt generation to VPLive. Maybe I'm missing something. Steve SoftWx -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giella KN4LF Sent: 08/01/2007 7:32 PM To: a WXQC e-List Subject: Re: [wxqc] Frustrations You guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Don and I both use Weather Display software to put our weather data on the WWW via the APRS system to the NWS from our Davis VP2 weather stations. However that setup would be a useless during an emergency like a hurricane strike, as we found out during the 2004 hurricane season when power failed and cable and telephone service went out. Don and I had generators for local power backup but the cable and phone company's didn't so our weather stations were dead in the water as far as data transfer. APRS was invented by a ham radio operator and Don (KI4EFL) and I (KN4LF) are also ham radio operators and want to transmit our weather data to APRS via our 2 meter transceivers. We both purchased the data logger/PC/radio interfaces from Davis to do so but after spending allot of money for the interfaces we found out that we needed a different interface that costs even more $$$, to be able to interface our VP 2's with our 2 meter rigs. We did research the situation and were led to believe that we had purchased the correct interfaces only to find out otherwise. As an example Peet Brothers weather stations have the data logger/PC/radio interface built in with no accessory purchase necessary. I spent in excess of $1000 for my VP 2 weather station and it's irritating to see that Davis has no interest in making it clear in their literature and on their website as to which interface is necessary for interfacing a weather station to a 2 meter transceiver. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From webmaster at saratoga-weather.org Wed Aug 1 23:15:28 2007 From: webmaster at saratoga-weather.org (Ken True) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:15:28 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] CW7166 off the air (for now) In-Reply-To: References: <025401c7d4b6$6b80d490$03371e0a@Artemis> Message-ID: <46B15A60.5080308@saratoga-weather.org> I had spikes in wind on my Davis VP (cabled) until I'd put an opto-isolator on the DB-9 serial interface to the computer. Probably had a ground-loop that really only showed up when it rained. I used the B&B Electronics 9POP4 isolator ( http://www.bb-elec.com/product_family.asp?FamilyId=1&Trail=4&TrailType=Main ) and it cured the wind-spike problem. Ken True CW1792 http://saratoga-weather.org/ Victor Engel wrote: > I wish my neighbor would do the same. Frankly, I'm tired of his > obviously bad data showing up on weatherunderground. It really does > nobody any good. Currently, he'd producing a lot of bad temperature > and humidity data. His wind tends to spike in rainy weather, too. > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTXAUSTI4 > > He's two doors down from me, so I could walk over and chat with him. > What would you guys do in my situation? > > http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KTXAUSTI48 > (mine, for comparison) > > Victor > > On 8/1/07, Bryce Alexander wrote: > >> I am getting spikes of erroneous data, the last two nights I got gusts of >> wind at 61, and 62mph respectively. Problem is that it didn't really happen; >> I think I would have noticed a gust like that when the ambient wind was less >> than 20mph. >> >> In the past some of my temp and dew point readings have had similar >> anomalous spikes (such as a moment of freezing temperature in June in >> Arizona). >> >> I just figure that if I cannot send reliable data, then it is safer to send >> no data at all. >> >> I am posting this just in case someone tries to interpret these last two >> gusts as real (there were thunderstorms in the area). My recent data should >> be rejected as untrustworthy. >> >> I am in the middle of building my own station using one-wire technology, so >> I will be back on line as my hobby time permits. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > From dsscheibe at earthlink.net Thu Aug 2 01:54:24 2007 From: dsscheibe at earthlink.net (Scott Scheibe) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:54:24 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Davis 6162C Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070801232230.00c3b630@pop.earthlink.net> I want to sincerely thank the person who suggested ProVantage. I just bought a Davis 6162C, daytime aspirated fan kit and a weather link for $126 + tax lower than the "low price quote" from Ambient and would have had to pay tax on an order from Ambient since they are local to me. That is about another $73 dollars saved. The person who was defending Oregon Scientific WMR, I've had mine for 5 years and in that time I've had the rain gauge (part of the plastic degraded and a 1 inch SQ opening over the circuit board so when it rained it would quit working..), 2 solar sensors and multiple batteries go bad. I could not tell you how many times I've had to climb up the ladder to reset the sensors, but probably on the order of at least once a month in the summer (6 months long in Phoenix..) for the last 5 years. If you look up the weather station photos for my system you will see the ladder in one of the photos. You may not have had problems but those of us in more extreme climates like Phoenix do, and you probably will. I probably have spend as much on the initial prices of the WMR and keeping it working for 5 years as it would have cost me to buy the Davis then. Right now the anemometer sensor is down again which it does a lot when it storms and it is monsoon season so a storm about a daily occurrence. >After I bought it, I found out that it was no problem if I wanted to spend >an additional $195 to replace an data logging device to put the data into a >APRS format. I feel that I was cheated, there was no information in the >literature at the time of my purchase. No credit for the old device. (this >becomes an additional expendure of over $220 (sorry I get the digest so I don't have your names readily handy) The guy in Florida if you are talking about the Weather Link for APRS 6540, ProVantage has it on their email price quote for $126.95. They had the 6510SER for $14.94 which is $33 less than Ambient did, and were $134 less on the 6162C station, $4 less on the fan aspirated shield kit. D. Scott Scheibe From dsscheibe at earthlink.net Thu Aug 2 02:04:39 2007 From: dsscheibe at earthlink.net (Scott Scheibe) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:04:39 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Mounting Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20070802000100.00bb3250@pop.earthlink.net> Can someone point out a resource for mounting the Davis sensor pack, how far above the roof line and far away should it be? From clarej at hbci.com Thu Aug 2 07:30:32 2007 From: clarej at hbci.com (Clare Jarvis) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:30:32 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] frustrations In-Reply-To: <002501c7d497$51cd0790$f56716b0$@com> References: <000a01c7d495$c4cca4f0$6401a8c0@donscomputer> <002501c7d497$51cd0790$f56716b0$@com> Message-ID: <200708020730.32234.clarej@hbci.com> Please visit aprsworld.com. The data logger is reliable and has a aprs interface built right in. It will hook directly to your TNC so no computer is required. It may not be for everybody, but it does a fine job for me. Clare Jarvis de K0NY On Wednesday 01 August 2007 18:54, Steve Hatchett wrote: > I'm assuming the regular data logger is not desirable to you because of the > need for a computer to run software that sends APRS/CWOP data, because > there are several free programs for doing that. > > In that case, you could sell the data logger you have and get the APRS > version. The data logger you have would be very easy to sell. Just put a > post on one of the forums that cater to home weather station owners. You > should be able to knock the price to $20 less than a new unit from a > discount source and sell it quickly. See www.provantage.com for close to > the cheapest prices on davis equipment (a fair amount below suggested > retail price), and price accordingly. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Don Jeerings > Sent: 08/01/2007 5:44 PM > To: Discussion of weather data quality issues > Subject: [wxqc] frustrations > > It's as simple as this... > > The Davis unit requires a 6540 weatherlink for APRS at $195 > > I bought a Davis (wired) Vantage pro II that came with a 6510Ser unit that > I paid $165 extra for that will not work with the BYONICS Tiny Trak3 or any > other TNC (terminal node controller) that I can find. > > When I purchased the Davis unit, there was no mention of the need and > availably of the 6540 unit for APRS transmissions. > > This has become a big issue with at least 60 SKYWARN Florida Radio > operators in the hurricane prone central Florida area and is a major > subject on the weekly SKYWARN net operated by volunteers with the National > Weather Service. > > > I am frustrated and feel that I have been taken advantage of. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From eholmes at aeneas.net Thu Aug 2 07:47:42 2007 From: eholmes at aeneas.net (Eddie Holmes) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:47:42 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Channel & Current Conditions Message-ID: <005901c7d503$51daf230$0201a8c0@EDDIESPC> The Weather Channel reports current conditions in communities on cable, on the web and the software is available for "Real Time" weather on one's desktop. My guess is that they do this purely by interpolation. Does anyone know of documentation where it states how they are able to do this? Eddie Holmes Meteorologist C.B.M.TM WEST TENNESSEE WEATHER ONLINE 226 Maddox Drive Jackson, TN 38305 www.jacksonweather.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070802/1e1ef009/attachment.htm From jbdash at clearwire.net Thu Aug 2 08:04:05 2007 From: jbdash at clearwire.net (Joe B. Dorn) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:04:05 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings In-Reply-To: <003101c7d4ae$bc2d6c80$6400a8c0@delld3000n> Message-ID: <200708021304.l72D44UY007858@mail804.megamailservers.com> I have also had very positive support with Peet Brothers during the ten or so years I have had their units. My initial choice was made primarily on the Peet's APRS without computer capabilities. I currently have two 2100 units, one rigged as a portable using a Byonics WXTrak ( http://www.byonics.com/wxtrak/ ). I have had a couple of problems that were very tough nuts but I sent the unit and sensors to Peet. The problems were resolved. The president of the company made one call to me to assure my satisfaction. One caveat, this is consumer level equipment, (as is Davis and the other units in this price range.) I do not recommend it for Antarctic expeditions. Also, I am not thrilled with their software and use Weather Display for local use, APRS is via Peet. Joe B. Dorn, W5VEX 7969 West FM 93 Belton, Texas 76513 Home (254) 939-5918 SKYPE name: 'joe.b.dorn.w5vex' Cell (254) 721-0829 _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Tim Crummel Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 21:42 To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' Subject: Re: [wxqc] My sentements. D Jeerings HI. I own a Peet Bros 2100 with all the new"pro" sensors. I am very happy with this unit and you could not ask for better support. If you have a problem with you unit and it is still in warranty the will ship you a new base unit with a RA # so that you can exchange your unit. They stand behind their equipment 100%. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My guess is that they do this purely by interpolation. > Does anyone know of documentation where it states how they are able to > do this? > > > > **Eddie Holmes** > > Meteorologist C.B.M.^TM ^ > > WEST TENNESSEE WEATHER ONLINE > > 226 Maddox Drive > > Jackson, TN 38305 > > www.jacksonweather.net > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- Gerry Creager -- gerry.creager at tamu.edu Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX 979.862.3983 MAIL: AATLT, 3139 TAMU Physical: 1700 Research Parkway, Suite 160, College Station, TX 77843-3139 From gary.oldham at adelphia.net Thu Aug 2 09:00:02 2007 From: gary.oldham at adelphia.net (Gary Oldham) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 9:00:02 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Mounting Message-ID: <3502145.1186063202275.JavaMail.root@web12.mail.adelphia.net> See the CWOP Instrument Siting Guide at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dshelms/CWOP_Guide.pdf Gary CW0146 ---- Scott Scheibe wrote: ============= Can someone point out a resource for mounting the Davis sensor pack, how far above the roof line and far away should it be? _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -- gary.oldham(at)adelphia.net From mddiehl at roadrunner.com Thu Aug 2 10:50:08 2007 From: mddiehl at roadrunner.com (Michael Diehl) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:50:08 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] CW7166 off the air (for now) In-Reply-To: <46B15A60.5080308@saratoga-weather.org> References: <025401c7d4b6$6b80d490$03371e0a@Artemis> <46B15A60.5080308@saratoga-weather.org> Message-ID: <005E1BAD-470A-47E7-B2D5-5655ACDECA7D@roadrunner.com> On Aug 2, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ken True wrote: > I had spikes in wind on my Davis VP (cabled) until I'd put an > opto-isolator on the DB-9 serial interface to the computer. Probably > had a ground-loop that really only showed up when it rained. I > used the > B&B Electronics 9POP4 isolator > ( > http://www.bb-elec.com/product_family.asp? > FamilyId=1&Trail=4&TrailType=Main > ) and it cured the wind-spike problem. > > Ken True > CW1792 > http://saratoga-weather.org/ > > Victor Engel wrote: >> I wish my neighbor would do the same. Frankly, I'm tired of his >> obviously bad data showing up on weatherunderground. It really does >> nobody any good. Currently, he'd producing a lot of bad temperature >> and humidity data. His wind tends to spike in rainy weather, too. >> >> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp? >> ID=KTXAUSTI4 >> >> He's two doors down from me, so I could walk over and chat with him. >> What would you guys do in my situation? >> >> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp? >> ID=KTXAUSTI48 >> (mine, for comparison) >> >> Victor >> >> On 8/1/07, Bryce Alexander wrote: >> >>> I am getting spikes of erroneous data, the last two nights I got >>> gusts of >>> wind at 61, and 62mph respectively. Problem is that it didn't >>> really happen; >>> I think I would have noticed a gust like that when the ambient >>> wind was less >>> than 20mph. >>> >>> In the past some of my temp and dew point readings have had similar >>> anomalous spikes (such as a moment of freezing temperature in >>> June in >>> Arizona). >>> >>> I just figure that if I cannot send reliable data, then it is >>> safer to send >>> no data at all. >>> >>> I am posting this just in case someone tries to interpret these >>> last two >>> gusts as real (there were thunderstorms in the area). My recent >>> data should >>> be rejected as untrustworthy. >>> >>> I am in the middle of building my own station using one-wire >>> technology, so >>> I will be back on line as my hobby time permits. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wxqc mailing list >>> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >>> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >>> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >>> >>> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> wxqc mailing list >> Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >> To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >> http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc >> >> The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. >> > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From dshelms at comcast.net Thu Aug 2 13:54:03 2007 From: dshelms at comcast.net (dshelms at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:54:03 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Channel & Current Conditions Message-ID: <080220071854.10959.46B2284B0007018700002ACF22007601809C03040A089C0B@comcast.net> Hi Eddie, The TWC folks call them "synthetic" observations and the analysis system called "HiRad". It depends on the local cable operator who receives these "observations". The points that COMCAST disseminates via my cable service in Maryland are somewhat bizarre, generally the same of more far to where I live than the original airport observations they once showed on the "8s" cycle, and not relevant to my location, or even the country where I live. Synthetic observations might be a good thing if the observation points were "localized" for the viewer, but this appears to be a challenge for TWC to actually know the location of the viewer and then send the appropriate "observation". Dave CW0351 More info: http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006/techprogram/paper_103622.htm http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/103622.pdf http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/103615.pdf http://www.clusterresources.com/media/Case%20Studies/WeatherChannel_CaseStudy_062507.pdf -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Eddie Holmes" > The Weather Channel reports current conditions in communities on cable, on > the web and the software is available for "Real Time" weather on one's > desktop. My guess is that they do this purely by interpolation. Does > anyone know of documentation where it states how they are able to do this? > > > > Eddie Holmes > > Meteorologist C.B.M.TM > > WEST TENNESSEE WEATHER ONLINE > > 226 Maddox Drive > > Jackson, TN 38305 > > www.jacksonweather.net > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Any > info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Please contact me off the forum at dburson at cox.net if this is off topic. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dustin Burson > > Weather underground ? KKSNEWTO2 > > CWOP AS619 > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net -- JaxFountain.com Dedicated to showcasing and preserving Friendship Fountain http://JaxFountain.com -- WolfStalks Network Properties http://WolfStalks.com From Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com Fri Aug 3 08:29:06 2007 From: Djeerings at tampabay.rr.com (Don Jeerings) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:29:06 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Useing a Davis 6540 weather link on a APRS radio link without computer support Message-ID: <003201c7d5d2$4485b410$6401a8c0@donscomputer> Re: Davis (wired) Vantage Pro II with 6540 APRS link.. Does anybody presently have an operating Davis 6540 APRS weather link reporting system that uses a 2 meter radio link and does not require computer support or special Davis software? (I need continuous streaming weather data in APRS format for the TNC. The TNC will add the Long / lat data and station identifier) This would be an unattended operating system that could work from a 12 volt battery and a Solar cell. (during a Florida Hurricane or severe storm) Could you describe the system configuration and equipment that you are using? The manual is not clear, the Davis people don't seem to understand the concept and I don't want to get burned again purchasing equipment that is not compatible. Don Jeerings KI4EFL CW4013 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Victor From sooner44 at valornet.com Fri Aug 10 08:16:05 2007 From: sooner44 at valornet.com (Richard Engle) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:16:05 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] cw4378 Message-ID: <001c01c7db50$9e636850$6400a8c0@richardr55aq30> CW4378 will be off line until Windstream decides to fix their internet equipment! Richard Engle CW4378 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070810/670676d4/attachment.htm From bvauter at naturalbridgecaverns.com Thu Aug 16 22:32:40 2007 From: bvauter at naturalbridgecaverns.com (Brian Vauter) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:32:40 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Tornado hits small Texas commercial cave Message-ID: We got word from the owner of Cave Without a Name, near Boerne, Texas, that a small tornado went over their property today. The tornado ripped off a porch on the front of their visitor center, tore off the roof to the entrance tunnel of the cave, and ripped up a juniper tree. A tour was inside the cave when the tornado crossed over the entrance. Visitors and the guide reported that the change in pressure caused everyone's ears to pop. There is an underground river which flows through the cave and it was also reported that a mist suddenly formed on the river and began to flow up through the cave. Thankfully, none of the guests or employees were injured. They figured out exactly what had happened when they returned to the surface and saw the sky through was should have been the roof of the entrance tunnel. Brian Vauter Cavern Geologist Natural Bridge Caverns, Inc. From stunsal at msn.com Sat Aug 18 11:59:38 2007 From: stunsal at msn.com (Christopher Gillard) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:59:38 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Tornado hits small Texas commercial cave References: Message-ID: Great story! Is there any more information available? ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vauter To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: [wxqc] Tornado hits small Texas commercial cave We got word from the owner of Cave Without a Name, near Boerne, Texas, that a small tornado went over their property today. The tornado ripped off a porch on the front of their visitor center, tore off the roof to the entrance tunnel of the cave, and ripped up a juniper tree. A tour was inside the cave when the tornado crossed over the entrance. Visitors and the guide reported that the change in pressure caused everyone's ears to pop. There is an underground river which flows through the cave and it was also reported that a mist suddenly formed on the river and began to flow up through the cave. Thankfully, none of the guests or employees were injured. They figured out exactly what had happened when they returned to the surface and saw the sky through was should have been the roof of the entrance tunnel. Brian Vauter Cavern Geologist Natural Bridge Caverns, Inc. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070818/e7d175f8/attachment.html From ASchw at att.net Sun Aug 19 19:20:37 2007 From: ASchw at att.net (Armin Schwarz) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:20:37 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Rain graph not displaying value In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46C8DE55.1050509@att.net> I noticed that the rain graph on my findu page does never display any values other than zero eventhough the header line "Last report from ..." does display the "Rain last 24hrs x.xx inches" as uploaded. Am I missing something? Armin. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW0120&radar=***&last=120 From steve at dimse.com Sun Aug 19 19:40:07 2007 From: steve at dimse.com (Steve Dimse) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:40:07 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Rain graph not displaying value In-Reply-To: <46C8DE55.1050509@att.net> References: <46C8DE55.1050509@att.net> Message-ID: <31BF1141-BE6D-4F15-AC0E-9A523B3A3504@dimse.com> On Aug 19, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Armin Schwarz wrote: > I noticed that the rain graph on my findu page does never display any > values other than zero eventhough the header line "Last report > from ..." > does display the "Rain last 24hrs x.xx inches" as uploaded. APRS has four rain values, cumulative (limited to Peet stand-alone weather stations) 1 hour, local midnight, and 24 hour. Last 24 hours is not displayed graphically, as it makes a very confusing image. Whether the line goes up or down at each time bin depends on two values, the rain that has fallen now, and the rain which fell 24 hours ago. Think about a 48 hours of constant rain at .1 inch/hour. For 24 hours the graph is a ramp up, then it is level for 24 hours, then it ramps down for 24 hours. While ramping down there is no rain, but the graph still shows a value. While the ramp is up and while it is level, it is raining. Now imagine 24 hours of 0.1 inch/hr, then 24 hours of .2 inch per hour. Now the graph is a straight ramp for the full 48 hours, even though the rate changed halfway through. In other words, to make sense of the 24 hour parameter, you have to look at all the data over the las 24 hours to figure out the current rain. Graphs are supposed to make data easier to interpret, graphing 24 hour rain makes it harder. One hour is a little better because of the shorter term, but it still suffers from the same problem on a local time scale. I don't know which software you are using, but you should beg the program author to modify it to send the rain since local midnight data as well as the 24 hour data. With rain since local midnight, anytime the level goes up more rain has fallen, and the daily reset is very clear. Steve K4HG From kc9dnq at comcast.net Sun Aug 19 20:35:31 2007 From: kc9dnq at comcast.net (Bill) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:35:31 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Cumulative rainfall value in APRS In-Reply-To: <31BF1141-BE6D-4F15-AC0E-9A523B3A3504@dimse.com> References: <46C8DE55.1050509@att.net> <31BF1141-BE6D-4F15-AC0E-9A523B3A3504@dimse.com> Message-ID: <46C8EFE3.5010706@comcast.net> Interesting discussion from the other thread... > APRS has four rain values, cumulative (limited to Peet stand-alone > weather stations) 1 hour, local midnight, and 24 hour. The ideal rainfall value for use in hydrologic forecasting would be the cumulative value. This need only be reset once a year. The benefit being one can avoid the hassle of trying to determine when the particular reading was reset but instead let software grab the cumulative value and determine the desired increment and associated value from the previous accumulated value. This is how many of the tipping buckets installed at river gaging locations report. Another advantage is that missing data is not a major problem as long as the accumulator has continued and the updated value is available once the gage begins reporting. Having all stations report a cumulative value would be a good thing but not sure how difficult it would be to implement(?). Bill CWOP KC9DNQ-3 (AR794) http://www.gooselakeweather.com Steve Dimse wrote: > On Aug 19, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Armin Schwarz wrote: > > >> I noticed that the rain graph on my findu page does never display any >> values other than zero eventhough the header line "Last report >> from ..." >> does display the "Rain last 24hrs x.xx inches" as uploaded. >> > > APRS has four rain values, cumulative (limited to Peet stand-alone > weather stations) 1 hour, local midnight, and 24 hour. Last 24 hours > is not displayed graphically, as it makes a very confusing image. > Whether the line goes up or down at each time bin depends on two > values, the rain that has fallen now, and the rain which fell 24 > hours ago. > > Think about a 48 hours of constant rain at .1 inch/hour. For 24 hours > the graph is a ramp up, then it is level for 24 hours, then it ramps > down for 24 hours. While ramping down there is no rain, but the graph > still shows a value. While the ramp is up and while it is level, it > is raining. Now imagine 24 hours of 0.1 inch/hr, then 24 hours of .2 > inch per hour. Now the graph is a straight ramp for the full 48 > hours, even though the rate changed halfway through. In other words, > to make sense of the 24 hour parameter, you have to look at all the > data over the las 24 hours to figure out the current rain. Graphs are > supposed to make data easier to interpret, graphing 24 hour rain > makes it harder. One hour is a little better because of the shorter > term, but it still suffers from the same problem on a local time scale. > > I don't know which software you are using, but you should beg the > program author to modify it to send the rain since local midnight > data as well as the 24 hour data. With rain since local midnight, > anytime the level goes up more rain has fallen, and the daily reset > is very clear. > > Steve K4HG > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: > http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070819/6078a8d4/attachment.html From ASchw at att.net Mon Aug 20 20:52:06 2007 From: ASchw at att.net (Armin Schwarz) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:52:06 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Rain graph not displaying value In-Reply-To: <31BF1141-BE6D-4F15-AC0E-9A523B3A3504@dimse.com> References: <46C8DE55.1050509@att.net> <31BF1141-BE6D-4F15-AC0E-9A523B3A3504@dimse.com> Message-ID: <46CA4546.2080009@att.net> Interesting and makes sense, thanks. I will change the program to report the recommended values. Armin. Steve Dimse wrote: >On Aug 19, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Armin Schwarz wrote: > > > >>I noticed that the rain graph on my findu page does never display any >>values other than zero eventhough the header line "Last report >>from ..." >>does display the "Rain last 24hrs x.xx inches" as uploaded. >> >> > >APRS has four rain values, cumulative (limited to Peet stand-alone >weather stations) 1 hour, local midnight, and 24 hour. Last 24 hours >is not displayed graphically, as it makes a very confusing image. >Whether the line goes up or down at each time bin depends on two >values, the rain that has fallen now, and the rain which fell 24 >hours ago. > >Think about a 48 hours of constant rain at .1 inch/hour. For 24 hours >the graph is a ramp up, then it is level for 24 hours, then it ramps >down for 24 hours. While ramping down there is no rain, but the graph >still shows a value. While the ramp is up and while it is level, it >is raining. Now imagine 24 hours of 0.1 inch/hr, then 24 hours of .2 >inch per hour. Now the graph is a straight ramp for the full 48 >hours, even though the rate changed halfway through. In other words, >to make sense of the 24 hour parameter, you have to look at all the >data over the las 24 hours to figure out the current rain. Graphs are >supposed to make data easier to interpret, graphing 24 hour rain >makes it harder. One hour is a little better because of the shorter >term, but it still suffers from the same problem on a local time scale. > >I don't know which software you are using, but you should beg the >program author to modify it to send the rain since local midnight >data as well as the 24 hour data. With rain since local midnight, >anytime the level goes up more rain has fallen, and the daily reset >is very clear. > >Steve K4HG >_______________________________________________ >wxqc mailing list >Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > From rhrcamp at comcast.net Sat Aug 25 11:23:47 2007 From: rhrcamp at comcast.net (Ralph Richard) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:23:47 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] CW station use by "Accuweather" Message-ID: <000d01c7e734$50eb6bf0$6401a8c0@homes2400> There is evidence that the CW station data is used and monitored. http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&blog=community&date=2007-08-24_23:56&month=8 The data from CW6205 was used for Jesse Ferrell's blog at "Accuweather" describing the storm passage Southwest of Chicago on August 23. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I appreciate Jesse taking the time to give full attribution to you and CWOP for the data he used in his case study, something you don't always see on the Internet. As for Accuweather using CWOP data (available through NOAA MADIS for anyone who requests the feed), I think that is great too! Jesse certainly makes the case for the value of CWOP observations by describing how high frequency rainfall reports can help identify early on a developing flash flood event. This is but one example of the many societal benefits that can be derived from our observations, both in the public and private sectors. Dave CW0351 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov > Ralph, > > Yes, CWOP stations are used and monitored by AccuWeather. To see > another one, enter "Jesse Ferrell" into the CWOP search tool, > > http://www.wxqa.com/search.htm > > Russ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Subject: Re: [wxqc] CW station use by "Accuweather" Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:33:27 +0000 Size: 2981 Url: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20070826/8e03fd8d/attachment.mht From kn4lf at earthlink.net Wed Aug 29 21:12:02 2007 From: kn4lf at earthlink.net (Thomas Giella KN4LF) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:12:02 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update Message-ID: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> Just an FYI, Davis released it's latest firmware v1.70 for the VP on August 21st. If you have a VP2 cabled or wireless station you can do a direct PC install from Davis without the need for their updater gadget. Per Davis http://davisnet.com/support/weather/software_frmwr.asp it works with the following data logger/pc interfaces: # 6510SER, 6510USB, 6540, 6544, 6550 and 6560. I have the Weatherlink 6510SER data logger/pc interface and the download was simple to install. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Skywarn #POL-10A Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm From paulgrace at lookoutranch.com Wed Aug 29 21:46:37 2007 From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com (Paul Grace) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:46:37 -0700 Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update In-Reply-To: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> References: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> Message-ID: <006f01c7eaaf$fcea2c10$0200a8c0@dell1500> It's version VP2 v 1.7, it was released on June 29th or so. No need to visit if you have that update. The current VP1 firmware is still the 12006/11/20 version. -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giella KN4LF Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 19:12 To: a WXStation eGroup; a WXQC e-List; a vantagepro eGroup Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update Just an FYI, Davis released it's latest firmware v1.70 for the VP on August 21st. If you have a VP2 cabled or wireless station you can do a direct PC install from Davis without the need for their updater gadget. Per Davis http://davisnet.com/support/weather/software_frmwr.asp it works with the following data logger/pc interfaces: # 6510SER, 6510USB, 6540, 6544, 6550 and 6560. I have the Weatherlink 6510SER data logger/pc interface and the download was simple to install. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Skywarn #POL-10A Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From m.robbie at mchsi.com Thu Aug 30 17:02:42 2007 From: m.robbie at mchsi.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:02:42 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update In-Reply-To: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> References: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> Message-ID: <001b01c7eb51$7d7ad9f0$aa00a8c0@Owner> Thanks Tom, Reference the update: Everything was working fine and all fields reporting as necessary up until yesterday. I have the right system and updated my firmware yesterday, but now it seems the 24 hour rain field is no longer reporting? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxnear.cgi?call=CW8100 Rain shows on my graphs (just the Cumulative and last hour) http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW8100&last=48&radar=*** Raw data (p) seems to be missing? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=CW8100 Guess I'll wait a couple days to see if it changes or catches up? May need to do more troubleshooting to see what changed...or maybe even go back to the old firmware just to test. Anyone else run into this? PS: For software I am running Vantage Bulletin within Weatherlink 5.7.1. Nothing to my knowledge changed with the software settings. If anyone has any suggestions feel free to e-mail direct. Thanks Mark CW8100 M.robbie at mchsi.com -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giella KN4LF Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:12 PM To: a WXStation eGroup; a WXQC e-List; a vantagepro eGroup Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update Just an FYI, Davis released it's latest firmware v1.70 for the VP on August 21st. If you have a VP2 cabled or wireless station you can do a direct PC install from Davis without the need for their updater gadget. Per Davis http://davisnet.com/support/weather/software_frmwr.asp it works with the following data logger/pc interfaces: # 6510SER, 6510USB, 6540, 6544, 6550 and 6560. I have the Weatherlink 6510SER data logger/pc interface and the download was simple to install. Take Care, Thomas Giella, KN4LF Retired Meteorologist Lakeland, FL, USA kn4lf at earthlink.net Skywarn #POL-10A Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. From dshelms at comcast.net Thu Aug 30 19:48:25 2007 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Dave Helms) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:48:25 -0400 Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update In-Reply-To: <001b01c7eb51$7d7ad9f0$aa00a8c0@Owner> References: <000501c7eaab$28997000$6401a8c0@thomas> <001b01c7eb51$7d7ad9f0$aa00a8c0@Owner> Message-ID: <46D76559.4040401@comcast.net> Hi Mark, If you interupt WeatherLink (e.g. restart), I'm pretty sure WeatherLink takes 24 hours of continuous operation to derive the 24 hour rainfall parameter. This parameter, along with the 10 minute (peak) gust and 1 hour rainfall parameters, are not sent from the Davis station console but rather need to be derived in memory by the WeatherLink application over the period of the parameter's time intergration. So... wait 24 hours and then check to see if the parameter is encoded into the APRS/CWOP message. Dave CW0351 Mark wrote: >Thanks Tom, >Reference the update: > >Everything was working fine and all fields reporting as necessary up until >yesterday. > >I have the right system and updated my firmware yesterday, but now it seems >the 24 hour rain field is no longer reporting? >http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxnear.cgi?call=CW8100 > >Rain shows on my graphs (just the Cumulative and last hour) >http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW8100&last=48&radar=*** > >Raw data (p) seems to be missing? >http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=CW8100 > > >Guess I'll wait a couple days to see if it changes or catches up? May need >to do more troubleshooting to see what changed...or maybe even go back to >the old firmware just to test. Anyone else run into this? > >PS: For software I am running Vantage Bulletin within Weatherlink 5.7.1. >Nothing to my knowledge changed with the software settings. > >If anyone has any suggestions feel free to e-mail direct. >Thanks > >Mark >CW8100 >M.robbie at mchsi.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net >[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giella >KN4LF >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:12 PM >To: a WXStation eGroup; a WXQC e-List; a vantagepro eGroup >Subject: [wxqc] Davis VP Firmware Update > >Just an FYI, Davis released it's latest firmware v1.70 for the VP on August >21st. If you have a VP2 cabled or wireless station you can do a direct PC >install from Davis without the need for their updater gadget. > >Per Davis http://davisnet.com/support/weather/software_frmwr.asp it works >with the following data logger/pc interfaces: # 6510SER, 6510USB, 6540, >6544, 6550 and 6560. I have the Weatherlink 6510SER data logger/pc interface >and the download was simple to install. > >Take Care, >Thomas Giella, KN4LF >Retired Meteorologist >Lakeland, FL, USA >kn4lf at earthlink.net >Skywarn #POL-10A > >Lakeland, Florida Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: >http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm >New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: >http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm > > > > >_______________________________________________ >wxqc mailing list >Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net To unsubcribe or change >delivery options, please go to: >http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > >_______________________________________________ >wxqc mailing list >Post messages to wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net >To unsubcribe or change delivery options, please go to: >http://server.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > >The contents of this message are the responsibility of the author. > > > >