[wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :).... station name-place convention in CWOP database

Gerry Creager N5JXS gerry.creager at tamu.edu
Mon Sep 18 08:33:51 EDT 2006


http://mesonet.tamu.edu/currentwx.html also shows all CWOP and AWOS/ASOS 
sites.

Dave Helms wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> CWOP data are available on local AWIPS if the WFO requests distribution 
> from MADIS.  MADIS distribution of CWOP observations includes your 
> station's metadata, along with its geo-poliyical or geo-physical 
> location, "Murray" Texas.  It doesn't matter if the Zip Code Gazateer 
> includes the place-name in the CWOP station metadata, all we care about 
> is that the name is recognized by the people living in your local area.  
> By example, in Alaska we have used highway mile markers, elsewhere we 
> use mountain peaks, lakes, etc., and one of these have zip codes.  
> Names-places are for people; zip codes and lat/lons are for computers.  
> CWOP documents and validates all three of these geo-location parameters 
> (as Russ and I did with you).
> 
> For the most part, WFOs do not include CWOP stations on 
> "observations/current conditions" section of the WFO web pages.  These 
> observations are typically ASOS/AWOS at airports.  Many times, the COOP 
> max/min temps and precip are also available.  The exception is the 
> Western Region which uses Mesowest web links to show mesonet 
> observations which include APRSWXNET/CWOP stations.  Mesowest includes 
> all CWOP/APRSWXNET stations in North America so your data are can be 
> viewed through the Mesowest web links, here is your station's:
> http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=&sid=C6489&num=168&raw=0&banner=off
> http://www.met.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/mesomap.cgi?state=TX
> ... selected "all networks" to see CWOP/APRSWXNET reports (your is not 
> on the map because you are not transmitting recently)
> 
> 
> Dave
> CW0351
> 
> Gerry Creager N5JXS wrote:
> 
> 
>>Inclusion in the AWIPS database.  I'm checking to see if that's really 
>>the case.  Otherwise it's connected to the NDFD database of places...
>>
>>gerry
>>
>>Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>I don't know what the requirements are to get a certain town listed in
>>>the web site you mention below.  I suggest that you contact the
>>>webmaster for that web page.
>>>
>>>Russ
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net>
>>>Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:31 pm
>>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>Guess that didn't work...here is the full link:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapClick.php?CityName=Graham&state=TX&site=
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>FWD
>>>>
>>>>This is for Graham, TX...the nearest town.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>>>>[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris 
>>>>FlorySent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:57 AM
>>>>To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
>>>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>>
>>>>Good to know, thanks for the info!
>>>>
>>>>The site I was referring to, is:
>>>>
>>>>Link
>>>>
>>>>I guess I could have said NWS as well.  Sorry for the confusion.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>>>>[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of
>>>>Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov
>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:12 PM
>>>>To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
>>>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>>
>>>>Chris,
>>>>
>>>>It takes over 6 months of not receiving any data before a registered
>>>>CWOP station is classified as inactive.
>>>>
>>>>CW6489, located in Murray, TX is listed in the APRSWXNETStation.txt 
>>>>fileand so is registered so that data will flow to NOAA
>>>>
>>>>http://www.wxqa.com/APRSWXNETStation.txt
>>>>
>>>>When you say "NOAA's website", what URL are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>>Russ
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net>
>>>>Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:09 am
>>>>Subject: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am new to this mailing list and new to the weather station 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>world. 
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have
>>>>>just joined CWOP, and have a weather station ID (CW6489).  I am 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>really> excited about getting this going and sending my data to 
>>>>help in 
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>whatever way
>>>>>I can.
>>>>>
>>>>>A few questions if you don't mind responding to any/all.   I 
>>>>>recently bought
>>>>>my VP2 and set it up at my house to test.  The quickest I can get 
>>>>>out to the
>>>>>site is next week (9/23 at the latest):
>>>>>
>>>>>1.	What is the length of time that the weather station can go before
>>>>>being regarded as inactive?  Any problems getting it activated 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>again?> 2.	If, for example, number 1 question is a week or so, 
>>>>should I send
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>data from another location to keep it active?  I figure this 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>would 
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>skew the
>>>>>historical data.  
>>>>>	
>>>>>	A question for the NOAA persons on the list (perhaps you might have
>>>>>some ideas):
>>>>>	
>>>>>3.	The station CW6489
>>>>><http://www.findu.com/cgi-
>>>>>bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW6489&last=48&radar=***>  is
>>>>>located in Murray, TX.  However, this location has no zip code, 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>and 
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>does not
>>>>>register when I enter it as a search for Murray, Texas in NOAA's 
>>>>>website, it
>>>>>is not found.  The closest town is Graham, TX.  What are the 
>>>>>requirements to
>>>>>have a town listed in the search database?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>>>>>
>>>>>-Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
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