[wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :).... station name-place convention in CWOP database
Dave Helms
dshelms at comcast.net
Mon Sep 18 08:25:40 EDT 2006
Hi Chris,
CWOP data are available on local AWIPS if the WFO requests distribution
from MADIS. MADIS distribution of CWOP observations includes your
station's metadata, along with its geo-poliyical or geo-physical
location, "Murray" Texas. It doesn't matter if the Zip Code Gazateer
includes the place-name in the CWOP station metadata, all we care about
is that the name is recognized by the people living in your local area.
By example, in Alaska we have used highway mile markers, elsewhere we
use mountain peaks, lakes, etc., and one of these have zip codes.
Names-places are for people; zip codes and lat/lons are for computers.
CWOP documents and validates all three of these geo-location parameters
(as Russ and I did with you).
For the most part, WFOs do not include CWOP stations on
"observations/current conditions" section of the WFO web pages. These
observations are typically ASOS/AWOS at airports. Many times, the COOP
max/min temps and precip are also available. The exception is the
Western Region which uses Mesowest web links to show mesonet
observations which include APRSWXNET/CWOP stations. Mesowest includes
all CWOP/APRSWXNET stations in North America so your data are can be
viewed through the Mesowest web links, here is your station's:
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=&sid=C6489&num=168&raw=0&banner=off
http://www.met.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/mesomap.cgi?state=TX
... selected "all networks" to see CWOP/APRSWXNET reports (your is not
on the map because you are not transmitting recently)
Dave
CW0351
Gerry Creager N5JXS wrote:
>Inclusion in the AWIPS database. I'm checking to see if that's really
>the case. Otherwise it's connected to the NDFD database of places...
>
>gerry
>
>Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov wrote:
>
>
>>Chris,
>>
>>I don't know what the requirements are to get a certain town listed in
>>the web site you mention below. I suggest that you contact the
>>webmaster for that web page.
>>
>>Russ
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net>
>>Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 4:31 pm
>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Guess that didn't work...here is the full link:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecast/MapClick.php?CityName=Graham&state=TX&site=
>>
>>
>>
>>>FWD
>>>
>>>This is for Graham, TX...the nearest town.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>>>[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>FlorySent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:57 AM
>>>To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
>>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>
>>>Good to know, thanks for the info!
>>>
>>>The site I was referring to, is:
>>>
>>>Link
>>>
>>>I guess I could have said NWS as well. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>>>[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of
>>>Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:12 PM
>>>To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
>>>Subject: Re: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>It takes over 6 months of not receiving any data before a registered
>>>CWOP station is classified as inactive.
>>>
>>>CW6489, located in Murray, TX is listed in the APRSWXNETStation.txt
>>>fileand so is registered so that data will flow to NOAA
>>>
>>>http://www.wxqa.com/APRSWXNETStation.txt
>>>
>>>When you say "NOAA's website", what URL are you referring to?
>>>
>>>Russ
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net>
>>>Date: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:09 am
>>>Subject: [wxqc] I'm a newbie...you've been warned :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I am new to this mailing list and new to the weather station
>>>>
>>>>
>>>world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have
>>>>just joined CWOP, and have a weather station ID (CW6489). I am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>really> excited about getting this going and sending my data to
>>>help in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>whatever way
>>>>I can.
>>>>
>>>>A few questions if you don't mind responding to any/all. I
>>>>recently bought
>>>>my VP2 and set it up at my house to test. The quickest I can get
>>>>out to the
>>>>site is next week (9/23 at the latest):
>>>>
>>>>1. What is the length of time that the weather station can go before
>>>>being regarded as inactive? Any problems getting it activated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>again?> 2. If, for example, number 1 question is a week or so,
>>>should I send
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>data from another location to keep it active? I figure this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>would
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>skew the
>>>>historical data.
>>>>
>>>> A question for the NOAA persons on the list (perhaps you might have
>>>>some ideas):
>>>>
>>>>3. The station CW6489
>>>><http://www.findu.com/cgi-
>>>>bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW6489&last=48&radar=***> is
>>>>located in Murray, TX. However, this location has no zip code,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>does not
>>>>register when I enter it as a search for Murray, Texas in NOAA's
>>>>website, it
>>>>is not found. The closest town is Graham, TX. What are the
>>>>requirements to
>>>>have a town listed in the search database?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for any assistance!
>>>>
>>>>-Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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