From doncline at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 00:42:56 2006
From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline)
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:42:56 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Distributed Computing Projects?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20060930075257.04f94050@jameshillfarm.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6e51c$72917c60$6401a8c0@dv1156cl>

John,

Don't know about weather related distributed computing, but Stanford
University does research into Alzheimer's Disease, Cancer, Huntington's
Diseases, Parkinson's Disease and a lot of other worthy medical uses of your
computer time.

I have some resources which perform tasks for these projects when resources
are available.  Weather forecasting is cool, but finding a cure for terrible
afflictions, like Stanford is working on, is awesome. 

Check it out at http://folding.stanford.edu/



Don
www.w7faa.com


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-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of John James
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:55 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Distributed Computing Projects?

Does anyone know a worthwhile distributed computing project going on 
for weather forecasting? The server that, among other things, hosts 
my weather processing really does little else through much of the 
day, and is always on. Does Mesonet or something related have a 
project that could use some of my otherwise-wasted MIPS?

//John



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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 10:03:13 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:03:13 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
Message-ID: <451F7545000032BD@n054.sc0.cp.net> (added by
	postmaster@bouncemessage.net)

I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if anyone
else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.

 

I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is about
96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts on the
console are dashed out..it comes and goes, sometimes I see the temp/DP, then
next I see dashes.

 

All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications from
the ISS to the console.

 

Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

 

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From brillig at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 10:16:35 2006
From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:16:35 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <451F7545000032BD@n054.sc0.cp.net>
References: <451F7545000032BD@n054.sc0.cp.net>
Message-ID: <e0e999680610010816m2bc0d1c9meee6cbc368c239d4@mail.gmail.com>

I have not had this problem, but if I did, the first thing I'd do is go to
the ISS, disconnect all the connectors and reconnect them again. I suspect
the plug to your temp sensor may simply be loose. While disconnected, take a
look to see if any wires are bent or out of alignment.

On 10/1/06, Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if
> anyone else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.
>
>
>
> I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is
> about 96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts
> on the console are dashed out?.it comes and goes, sometimes I see the
> temp/DP, then next I see dashes.
>
>
>
> All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications
> from the ISS to the console.
>
>
>
> Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 10:17:54 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:17:54 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <451F7545000032BD@n054.sc0.cp.net> (added
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Message-ID: <451F7E07000031FF@n126.sc0.cp.net> (added by
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Addendum to my previous email:

 

I have taken apart the VP2, to see if there were any obstructions or
problems with the temp/hum sensor.  The fan inside is spinning just fine.

 

I did not see any problems, and put it back together.  Now it is working
fine, but I am only at 80deg. F right now.  I will see what happens later
when it gets back up to temp.

 

I am just wondering if there is a problem over 95F with this sensor.no
response from Davis or the place I bought it from yet..probably don't work
the weekends :(

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris Flory
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:03 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if anyone
else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.

 

I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is about
96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts on the
console are dashed out..it comes and goes, sometimes I see the temp/DP, then
next I see dashes.

 

All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications from
the ISS to the console.

 

Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

 

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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 10:19:46 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:19:46 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <e0e999680610010816m2bc0d1c9meee6cbc368c239d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <451F7E070000324F@n126.sc0.cp.net> (added by
	postmaster@bouncemessage.net)

Thanks Victor.you answered that quick!

 

I just sent another email.  I did checks as you suggested, and did not see
anything suspect.

 

Regards,

 

-Chris

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:17 AM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

I have not had this problem, but if I did, the first thing I'd do is go to
the ISS, disconnect all the connectors and reconnect them again. I suspect
the plug to your temp sensor may simply be loose. While disconnected, take a
look to see if any wires are bent or out of alignment. 

On 10/1/06, Chris Flory <cflory at comcast.net> wrote:

I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if anyone
else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.

 

I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is about
96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts on the
console are dashed out..it comes and goes, sometimes I see the temp/DP, then
next I see dashes.

 

All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications from
the ISS to the console.

 

Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

 


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From weather at crowbarcreek.com  Sun Oct  1 12:41:26 2006
From: weather at crowbarcreek.com (Bill Schultz)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:41:26 -0600
Subject: [wxqc]  Vantage Pro2
Message-ID: <002301c6e580$ed95cd30$3300a8c0@officeamd>

Chris,

I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed lines?

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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 13:00:01 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:00:01 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <002301c6e580$ed95cd30$3300a8c0@officeamd>
Message-ID: <451F74290000C84D@n016.sc0.cp.net> (added by
	postmaster@bouncemessage.net)

Bill, 

 

Thanks for the info.  Yes, it seems I have good reception during the dashed
condition.  All my other readings are coming in (baro, hum, rain, wind).

 

I will continue to wait for feedback from Davis, and see what they say as
well.  But, thanks again for sharing your experience.  So far it seems I
might need another temp/hum module.

 

Right now I am testing to see if it was the module or the console possibly
getting too hot.  I have the A/C on inside now for the console, and I'm just
waiting to get up to temp again :)

 

-Chris

 

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schultz
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:41 PM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

Chris,

 

I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in
August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular
temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for
the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed
lines?

 

Bill 

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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Sun Oct  1 13:59:10 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:59:10 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
References: <451F74290000C84D@n016.sc0.cp.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c6e58b$ae4bdce0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>

High temperature is not a problem with these sensors. We were consistently over 100 degrees this past summer, along with some very high humidity on occassion, and never missed an observation.

If the other sensors are reporting fine and your data signal is good, then by deduction, if the Temp/Dpt cabling to the ISS is good, the temp/hum unit itself has to be bad.

Evan


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Flory 
  To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' 
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2


  Bill, 

   

  Thanks for the info.  Yes, it seems I have good reception during the dashed condition.  All my other readings are coming in (baro, hum, rain, wind).

   

  I will continue to wait for feedback from Davis, and see what they say as well.  But, thanks again for sharing your experience.  So far it seems I might need another temp/hum module.

   

  Right now I am testing to see if it was the module or the console possibly getting too hot.  I have the A/C on inside now for the console, and I'm just waiting to get up to temp again :)

   

  -Chris

   

   


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  From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schultz
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:41 PM
  To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
  Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

   

  Chris,

   

  I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed lines?

   

  Bill 



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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 14:12:06 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 14:12:06 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <003d01c6e58b$ae4bdce0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <451F74290000EB8F@n016.sc0.cp.net> (added by
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I agree Evan, thanks.

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Evan Bookbinder
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:59 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

High temperature is not a problem with these sensors. We were consistently
over 100 degrees this past summer, along with some very high humidity on
occassion, and never missed an observation.

 

If the other sensors are reporting fine and your data signal is good, then
by deduction, if the Temp/Dpt cabling to the ISS is good, the temp/hum unit
itself has to be bad.

 

Evan

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Chris Flory <mailto:cflory at comcast.net>  

To: 'Discussion of weather data quality
<mailto:wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>  issues' 

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

Bill, 

 

Thanks for the info.  Yes, it seems I have good reception during the dashed
condition.  All my other readings are coming in (baro, hum, rain, wind).

 

I will continue to wait for feedback from Davis, and see what they say as
well.  But, thanks again for sharing your experience.  So far it seems I
might need another temp/hum module.

 

Right now I am testing to see if it was the module or the console possibly
getting too hot.  I have the A/C on inside now for the console, and I'm just
waiting to get up to temp again :)

 

-Chris

 

 


  _____  


From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schultz
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:41 PM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

Chris,

 

I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in
August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular
temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for
the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed
lines?

 

Bill 


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From unkajim at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 14:22:42 2006
From: unkajim at comcast.net (Jim Pace)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:22:42 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re:  Vantage Pro2
References: <451F74290000C84D@n016.sc0.cp.net>
	<003d01c6e58b$ae4bdce0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <002201c6e58e$f7c16040$6800a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh>

ISS: International Space Station?
Jim
http://ecapmiill.home.comcast.net
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Evan Bookbinder 
  To: Discussion of weather data quality issues 
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:59 AM
  Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2


  High temperature is not a problem with these sensors. We were consistently over 100 degrees this past summer, along with some very high humidity on occassion, and never missed an observation.

  If the other sensors are reporting fine and your data signal is good, then by deduction, if the Temp/Dpt cabling to the ISS is good, the temp/hum unit itself has to be bad.

  Evan


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Chris Flory 
    To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' 
    Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2


    Bill, 

     

    Thanks for the info.  Yes, it seems I have good reception during the dashed condition.  All my other readings are coming in (baro, hum, rain, wind).

     

    I will continue to wait for feedback from Davis, and see what they say as well.  But, thanks again for sharing your experience.  So far it seems I might need another temp/hum module.

     

    Right now I am testing to see if it was the module or the console possibly getting too hot.  I have the A/C on inside now for the console, and I'm just waiting to get up to temp again :)

     

    -Chris

     

     


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    From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schultz
    Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:41 PM
    To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
    Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

     

    Chris,

     

    I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed lines?

     

    Bill 



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From paulgrace at lookoutranch.com  Sun Oct  1 14:32:47 2006
From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com (Paul Grace)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:32:47 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <451F7E07000031FF@n126.sc0.cp.net> (added
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Message-ID: <00af01c6e590$60654a20$0200a8c0@dell1500>

No problem with 108+ on my system, also fan-aspirated.

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris Flory
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 08:18
To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2



Addendum to my previous email:

 

I have taken apart the VP2, to see if there were any obstructions or
problems with the temp/hum sensor.  The fan inside is spinning just fine.

 

I did not see any problems, and put it back together.  Now it is working
fine, but I am only at 80deg. F right now.  I will see what happens later
when it gets back up to temp.

 

I am just wondering if there is a problem over 95F with this sensor.no
response from Davis or the place I bought it from yet..probably don't work
the weekends :(

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris Flory
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:03 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if anyone
else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.

 

I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is about
96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts on the
console are dashed out..it comes and goes, sometimes I see the temp/DP, then
next I see dashes.

 

All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications from
the ISS to the console.

 

Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

 

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From cflory at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 14:53:07 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 14:53:07 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2
In-Reply-To: <00af01c6e590$60654a20$0200a8c0@dell1500>
Message-ID: <451F7429000101E3@n016.sc0.cp.net> (added by
	postmaster@bouncemessage.net)

Good to know.thanks!

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Paul Grace
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

No problem with 108+ on my system, also fan-aspirated.

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris Flory
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 08:18
To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

Addendum to my previous email:

 

I have taken apart the VP2, to see if there were any obstructions or
problems with the temp/hum sensor.  The fan inside is spinning just fine.

 

I did not see any problems, and put it back together.  Now it is working
fine, but I am only at 80deg. F right now.  I will see what happens later
when it gets back up to temp.

 

I am just wondering if there is a problem over 95F with this sensor.no
response from Davis or the place I bought it from yet..probably don't work
the weekends :(

 

  _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Chris Flory
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:03 AM
To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

 

I have already engaged Davis support on this, but I was wondering if anyone
else has seen this problem, while I await their feedback.

 

I just bought this VP2 with fan aspirated radiation shield, and it is about
96deg. F outside right now.  The 'temp out' and 'dew point' readouts on the
console are dashed out..it comes and goes, sometimes I see the temp/DP, then
next I see dashes.

 

All other readouts are showing up fine, and I have good communications from
the ISS to the console.

 

Anyone ever have a problem like this?  I have the latest firmware on it.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

 

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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Sun Oct  1 15:34:26 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:34:26 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re:  Vantage Pro2
References: <451F74290000C84D@n016.sc0.cp.net>
	<003d01c6e58b$ae4bdce0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
	<002201c6e58e$f7c16040$6800a8c0@jim913fn14t9kh>
Message-ID: <020401c6e598$fd0bda80$6a01a8c0@stormalerthp>

Huh??

Integrated Sensor Suite
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Pace 
  To: Discussion of weather data quality issues 
  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Re: Vantage Pro2


  ISS: International Space Station?
  Jim
  http://ecapmiill.home.comcast.net
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Evan Bookbinder 
    To: Discussion of weather data quality issues 
    Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:59 AM
    Subject: [personal] Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2


    High temperature is not a problem with these sensors. We were consistently over 100 degrees this past summer, along with some very high humidity on occassion, and never missed an observation.

    If the other sensors are reporting fine and your data signal is good, then by deduction, if the Temp/Dpt cabling to the ISS is good, the temp/hum unit itself has to be bad.

    Evan


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chris Flory 
      To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues' 
      Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2


      Bill, 

       

      Thanks for the info.  Yes, it seems I have good reception during the dashed condition.  All my other readings are coming in (baro, hum, rain, wind).

       

      I will continue to wait for feedback from Davis, and see what they say as well.  But, thanks again for sharing your experience.  So far it seems I might need another temp/hum module.

       

      Right now I am testing to see if it was the module or the console possibly getting too hot.  I have the A/C on inside now for the console, and I'm just waiting to get up to temp again :)

       

      -Chris

       

       


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      From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Bill Schultz
      Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:41 PM
      To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
      Subject: [wxqc] Vantage Pro2

       

      Chris,

       

      I had dashed lines in temp out & dew point on my Davis VP2 when I got it in August.  I use the Daytime FARS.  It did not seem to happen at a particular temperature. I called Davis and they sent me a new Temp/Humidity module for the ISS and no more dashed lines. Is your reception good during the dashed lines?

       

      Bill 



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From kdmiller at oldsgmail.com  Sun Oct  1 16:11:48 2006
From: kdmiller at oldsgmail.com (kdmiller at oldsgmail.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:11:48 -0600
Subject: [wxqc] [personal] Re:  Vantage Pro2
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-------- Original Message --------
> From: "Jim Pace" <unkajim at comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:17 PM
> To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
> Subject: Re: [wxqc] [personal] Re:  Vantage Pro2
> 
> ISS: International Space Station?
>

ISS = Intergrated Sensor Suite


Keith
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From gail_speer at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 21:37:14 2006
From: gail_speer at yahoo.com (Gail Speer)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error
Message-ID: <20061003023714.1974.qmail@web35413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am a newbie, and signed up for the diagnosis of my weather station data.  It sent me the following:
   DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT *    DD    *    FF    
                           *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   (DEG)  *   (KNT)  
02-OCT-2006 1817    CW4512 *1009.(2.16)*  70(   5)*57.7(-2.9)*   0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
02-OCT-2006 1832    CW4512 *1009.(2.26)*  73(   2)*58.7(  -4)*   0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
02-OCT-2006 1847    CW4512 *1008.(2.46)*  74(   1)*57.8(  -3)*   0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
02-OCT-2006 1902    CW4512 *1008.( 2.6)*  75(1.95)*58.2(-3.8)*   0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
02-OCT-2006 1917    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  76(0.95)*58.1(-3.7)*   0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
02-OCT-2006 1932    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*59.1(-4.6)*244.(34.8)*0.87(2.17)
02-OCT-2006 1947    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*56.4(-1.9)*   0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
02-OCT-2006 2002    CW4512 *1008.(2.71)*  76(1.43)*  56(-1.4)*   0(-58.)*1.74(2.47)
02-OCT-2006 2017    CW4512 *1008.(2.74)*  77(0.43)*  58(-3.5)*   0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
02-OCT-2006 2032    CW4512 *1008.(2.64)*  77(0.43)*55.8(-1.2)*   0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
02-OCT-2006 2047    CW4512 *1008.(2.54)*  77(0.43)*56.4(-1.8)*  32(-90.)*0.87(3.34)
02-OCT-2006 2102    CW4512 *1008.(3.11)*  75(0.74)*52.8(0.97)*347.(-42.)*0.87(3.32)
02-OCT-2006 2117    CW4512 *1009.(2.61)*  73(2.74)*55.4(-1.6)*342.(-37.)*1.74(2.45)
02-OCT-2006 2132    CW4512 *1009.(2.41)*  71(4.74)*  55(-1.2)*   0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
02-OCT-2006 2147    CW4512 *1009.(2.11)*  70(5.74)*55.5(-1.7)*   0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
02-OCT-2006 2202    CW4512 *1010.( 2.5)*  70(3.06)*55.5(-3.1)*340.(-6.2)*0.87(2.69)
02-OCT-2006 2217    CW4512 *1010.( 2.2)*  69(4.06)*55.4(-3.1)*   0(-41.)*   0(3.56)
02-OCT-2006 Errs    CW4512 *  18/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   
02-OCT-2006 Smry    CW4512 *1.51(0.65)*0.88(1.88)*-1.8(1.42)*6.06(44.4)*1.98(1.19)

How do I know what the errors are?  Is there somewhere I can look up the format of this data, and determine what the errors mean?

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From dshelms at comcast.net  Mon Oct  2 22:01:00 2006
From: dshelms at comcast.net (Dave Helms)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:01:00 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error
In-Reply-To: <20061003023714.1974.qmail@web35413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061003023714.1974.qmail@web35413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4521D26C.2010100@comcast.net>

Hi Gail,

Might be easier just to monitor your station's graphical QC statistics:
http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C4512

Your dew point is getting flagged as a little bit too high, but that is 
likely due to your proximity to the lake (don't make any changes).  Your 
pressure is also about 1.0 mb too low and could be adjusted upward.

Dave
CW0351


Gail Speer wrote:

> I am a newbie, and signed up for the diagnosis of my weather station 
> data.  It sent me the following:
>    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT 
> *    DD    *    FF    
>                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   
> (DEG)  *   (KNT)  
> 02-OCT-2006 1817    CW4512 *1009.(2.16)*  70(   5)*57.7(-2.9)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1832    CW4512 *1009.(2.26)*  73(   2)*58.7(  -4)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1847    CW4512 *1008.(2.46)*  74(   1)*57.8(  -3)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1902    CW4512 *1008.( 2.6)*  75(1.95)*58.2(-3.8)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 1917    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  76(0.95)*58.1(-3.7)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 1932    CW4512 
> *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*59.1(-4.6)*244.(34.8)*0.87(2.17)
> 02-OCT-2006 1947    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*56.4(-1.9)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 2002    CW4512 *1008.(2.71)*  76(1.43)*  56(-1.4)*   
> 0(-58.)*1.74(2.47)
> 02-OCT-2006 2017    CW4512 *1008.(2.74)*  77(0.43)*  58(-3.5)*   
> 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> 02-OCT-2006 2032    CW4512 *1008.(2.64)*  77(0.43)*55.8(-1.2)*   
> 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> 02-OCT-2006 2047    CW4512 
> *1008.(2.54)*  77(0.43)*56.4(-1.8)*  32(-90.)*0.87(3.34)
> 02-OCT-2006 2102    CW4512 
> *1008.(3.11)*  75(0.74)*52.8(0.97)*347.(-42.)*0.87(3.32)
> 02-OCT-2006 2117    CW4512 
> *1009.(2.61)*  73(2.74)*55.4(-1.6)*342.(-37.)*1.74(2.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 2132    CW4512 *1009.(2.41)*  71(4.74)*  55(-1.2)*   
> 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> 02-OCT-2006 2147    CW4512 *1009.(2.11)*  70(5.74)*55.5(-1.7)*   
> 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> 02-OCT-2006 2202    CW4512 *1010.( 
> 2.5)*  70(3.06)*55.5(-3.1)*340.(-6.2)*0.87(2.69)
> 02-OCT-2006 2217    CW4512 *1010.( 2.2)*  69(4.06)*55.4(-3.1)*   
> 0(-41.)*   0(3.56)
> 02-OCT-2006 Errs    CW4512 *  18/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   
> *   0/85  
> 02-OCT-2006 Smry    CW4512 
> *1.51(0.65)*0.88(1.88)*-1.8(1.42)*6.06(44.4)*1.98(1.19)
>
> How do I know what the errors are?  Is there somewhere I can look up 
> the format of this data, and determine what the errors mean?
>
> thanks
>
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From paulgrace at lookoutranch.com  Tue Oct  3 08:18:59 2006
From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com (paulgrace at lookoutranch.com)
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 2006 08:18:59 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error
In-Reply-To: <4521D26C.2010100@comcast.net>
References: <20061003023714.1974.qmail@web35413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4521D26C.2010100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1159881539.45226343e6b74@mail.opentransfer.com>

I first joined this mailing list when I questioned my data's quality.  I 
started sending in data because I thought it would help, and went to the 
analysis page to make sure everything was okay.  I found my temp/RH data 
was "X". I subsequently learned that my data was okay, but the analysis for my 
location was off.  
I wonder if some questions could be averted by explaining some of the biggest 
causes of the red "X" that are not station-related ("You may live near a lake, 
on the side of a mountain" etc.)  Right now a lot of people assume this data is 
not being used, and it's also a little difficult to find out how the data is 
really being used.

Just a thought...


Quoting Dave Helms <dshelms at comcast.net>:

> Hi Gail,
> 
> Might be easier just to monitor your station's graphical QC statistics:
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C4512
> 
> Your dew point is getting flagged as a little bit too high, but that is 
> likely due to your proximity to the lake (don't make any changes).  Your 
> pressure is also about 1.0 mb too low and could be adjusted upward.
> 
> Dave
> CW0351
> 
> 
> Gail Speer wrote:
> 
> > I am a newbie, and signed up for the diagnosis of my weather station 
> > data.  It sent me the following:
> >    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT 
> > *    DD    *    FF    
> >                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   
> > (DEG)  *   (KNT)  
> > 02-OCT-2006 1817    CW4512 *1009.(2.16)*  70(   5)*57.7(-2.9)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1832    CW4512 *1009.(2.26)*  73(   2)*58.7(  -4)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1847    CW4512 *1008.(2.46)*  74(   1)*57.8(  -3)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1902    CW4512 *1008.( 2.6)*  75(1.95)*58.2(-3.8)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1917    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  76(0.95)*58.1(-3.7)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1932    CW4512 
> > *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*59.1(-4.6)*244.(34.8)*0.87(2.17)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1947    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*56.4(-1.9)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2002    CW4512 *1008.(2.71)*  76(1.43)*  56(-1.4)*   
> > 0(-58.)*1.74(2.47)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2017    CW4512 *1008.(2.74)*  77(0.43)*  58(-3.5)*   
> > 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2032    CW4512 *1008.(2.64)*  77(0.43)*55.8(-1.2)*   
> > 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2047    CW4512 
> > *1008.(2.54)*  77(0.43)*56.4(-1.8)*  32(-90.)*0.87(3.34)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2102    CW4512 
> > *1008.(3.11)*  75(0.74)*52.8(0.97)*347.(-42.)*0.87(3.32)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2117    CW4512 
> > *1009.(2.61)*  73(2.74)*55.4(-1.6)*342.(-37.)*1.74(2.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2132    CW4512 *1009.(2.41)*  71(4.74)*  55(-1.2)*   
> > 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2147    CW4512 *1009.(2.11)*  70(5.74)*55.5(-1.7)*   
> > 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2202    CW4512 *1010.( 
> > 2.5)*  70(3.06)*55.5(-3.1)*340.(-6.2)*0.87(2.69)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2217    CW4512 *1010.( 2.2)*  69(4.06)*55.4(-3.1)*   
> > 0(-41.)*   0(3.56)
> > 02-OCT-2006 Errs    CW4512 *  18/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   
> > *   0/85  
> > 02-OCT-2006 Smry    CW4512 
> > *1.51(0.65)*0.88(1.88)*-1.8(1.42)*6.06(44.4)*1.98(1.19)
> >
> > How do I know what the errors are?  Is there somewhere I can look up 
> > the format of this data, and determine what the errors mean?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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From ken at ubh.com  Tue Oct  3 09:00:41 2006
From: ken at ubh.com (Ken Whelan)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:00:41 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error
Message-ID: <4C7058FCA5307C4BBE440C692631B12783ABD0@pig.uhc.cc>

Your not too new :) Your station has been around longer than mine has.
If you take a look at the graphs for my station,  you will see the
humidity spike up very high after it gets dark.

http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C5627?date=20061003

I am also on a lake but also set way down in a valley.   I have
positioned my station on the dock itself, knowing that the humidity
would be affected.   What I didn't expect was that at my house 100 or so
yards up the hill but also in the valley keeps a very similar humidity
as to what the dock does.    It would make very little difference if I
put the station up at the house (other than the wind would then be wrong
because of all the trees).    The humidity settles into the valley very
quickly after the wind dies for the evening.   It stays until the wind
picks up in the morning and then it stabilizes similar to what the other
stations in the area say.    I also sometimes get red X's for dewpoint
and I just don't worry about it because I know my readings are right for
my location.    

I also keep readings for water temperature which is pretty cool too. 

Later
kw

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Dave Helms
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:01 PM
To: Gail Speer; Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error

Hi Gail,

Might be easier just to monitor your station's graphical QC statistics:
http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C4512

Your dew point is getting flagged as a little bit too high, but that is
likely due to your proximity to the lake (don't make any changes).  Your
pressure is also about 1.0 mb too low and could be adjusted upward.

Dave
CW0351


Gail Speer wrote:

> I am a newbie, and signed up for the diagnosis of my weather station 
> data.  It sent me the following:
>    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT 
> *    DD    *    FF    
>                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   
> (DEG)  *   (KNT)  
> 02-OCT-2006 1817    CW4512 *1009.(2.16)*  70(   5)*57.7(-2.9)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1832    CW4512 *1009.(2.26)*  73(   2)*58.7(  -4)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1847    CW4512 *1008.(2.46)*  74(   1)*57.8(  -3)*   
> 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 1902    CW4512 *1008.( 2.6)*  75(1.95)*58.2(-3.8)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 1917    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  76(0.95)*58.1(-3.7)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 1932    CW4512 
> *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*59.1(-4.6)*244.(34.8)*0.87(2.17)
> 02-OCT-2006 1947    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*56.4(-1.9)*   
> 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> 02-OCT-2006 2002    CW4512 *1008.(2.71)*  76(1.43)*  56(-1.4)*   
> 0(-58.)*1.74(2.47)
> 02-OCT-2006 2017    CW4512 *1008.(2.74)*  77(0.43)*  58(-3.5)*   
> 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> 02-OCT-2006 2032    CW4512 *1008.(2.64)*  77(0.43)*55.8(-1.2)*   
> 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> 02-OCT-2006 2047    CW4512 
> *1008.(2.54)*  77(0.43)*56.4(-1.8)*  32(-90.)*0.87(3.34)
> 02-OCT-2006 2102    CW4512 
> *1008.(3.11)*  75(0.74)*52.8(0.97)*347.(-42.)*0.87(3.32)
> 02-OCT-2006 2117    CW4512 
> *1009.(2.61)*  73(2.74)*55.4(-1.6)*342.(-37.)*1.74(2.45)
> 02-OCT-2006 2132    CW4512 *1009.(2.41)*  71(4.74)*  55(-1.2)*   
> 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> 02-OCT-2006 2147    CW4512 *1009.(2.11)*  70(5.74)*55.5(-1.7)*   
> 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> 02-OCT-2006 2202    CW4512 *1010.( 
> 2.5)*  70(3.06)*55.5(-3.1)*340.(-6.2)*0.87(2.69)
> 02-OCT-2006 2217    CW4512 *1010.( 2.2)*  69(4.06)*55.4(-3.1)*   
> 0(-41.)*   0(3.56)
> 02-OCT-2006 Errs    CW4512 *  18/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85

> *   0/85  
> 02-OCT-2006 Smry    CW4512 
> *1.51(0.65)*0.88(1.88)*-1.8(1.42)*6.06(44.4)*1.98(1.19)
>
> How do I know what the errors are?  Is there somewhere I can look up 
> the format of this data, and determine what the errors mean?
>
> thanks
>
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From mark at markwyman.com  Tue Oct  3 19:18:50 2006
From: mark at markwyman.com (Mark Wyman)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:18:50 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Wind rose control object
In-Reply-To: <010c01c6e25a$8a306800$40280a0a@mvanattadt739>
Message-ID: <005e01c6e74a$abb1a4e0$02fea8c0@MWYMANS>

Hi all,

I was wondering if my direct Email is making it through or if it is getting
canned by a spam filter. I just haven?t heard anything so I was wondering
what was going on.

 

Thanks!

 

-Mark W.

 

   _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Mark Wyman
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:30 PM
To: 'Discussion of weather data quality issues'
Subject: [wxqc] Wind rose control object

 

Hi All,

            I am for fun working on a user control in VB2005 (VB.NET) that
displays wind and historical wind data on a rose that has mouse-over inquiry
on the data. I am wondering if anyone would like to test it out or offer
suggestions on what I can do to improve the control. My ultimate goal is to
provide these free to whoever is developing freeware weather software. Lots
of features, and I think they look nice also.

            So if anyone is interested, please E-mail me and I will provide
what I have directly. When I get closer to a final revision, I will put the
source code on my site for whatever anyone would like to do with it.

 

            Other controls I plan to make once I get some feedback:

 

            Air pressure/dial control with historical displays

            Temperature gauge that looks like a classic thermometer, only
has a lot of display control

            

            Possibly a wind barb that ?morphs? with wind speed and
direction.

 

-Mark Wyman

 

 

 


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From brillig at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 19:40:35 2006
From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:40:35 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Wind rose control object
In-Reply-To: <010c01c6e25a$8a306800$40280a0a@mvanattadt739>
References: <010c01c6e25a$8a306800$40280a0a@mvanattadt739>
Message-ID: <e0e999680610031740g1bdfb509k8157e3965e62333a@mail.gmail.com>

If you're referring to this one. It arrived. I didn't reply because I'm
unclear whether it is a tool for VB programmers, or whether it is a
self-contained object, or what. How is it used, I guess is what I need to
know.

On 9/27/06, Mark Wyman <mark at markwyman.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi All,
>
>             I am for fun working on a user control in VB2005 (VB.NET) that
> displays wind and historical wind data on a rose that has mouse-over inquiry
> on the data. I am wondering if anyone would like to test it out or offer
> suggestions on what I can do to improve the control. My ultimate goal is to
> provide these free to whoever is developing freeware weather software. Lots
> of features, and I think they look nice also.
>
>             So if anyone is interested, please E-mail me and I will
> provide what I have directly. When I get closer to a final revision, I will
> put the source code on my site for whatever anyone would like to do with it.
>
>
>
>             Other controls I plan to make once I get some feedback:
>
>
>
>             Air pressure/dial control with historical displays
>
>             Temperature gauge that looks like a classic thermometer, only
> has a lot of display control
>
>
>
>             Possibly a wind barb that "morphs" with wind speed and
> direction.
>
>
>
> -Mark Wyman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From mark at markwyman.com  Tue Oct  3 19:52:47 2006
From: mark at markwyman.com (Mark Wyman)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:52:47 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Wind rose control object
In-Reply-To: <e0e999680610031740g1bdfb509k8157e3965e62333a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006f01c6e74f$69a520e0$02fea8c0@MWYMANS>

Thanks,

 

            Good to hear. I don?t have much time for documentation on this.
Right now it is a test form and a stand-alone control written in VB2005. The
test form generates some random wind data to show the graphic capability of
the control. In the interactive programming environment you can set various
properties like colors, number of historic records displayed, gausian wind
lobes, etc. Basically the idea right now it to make sure it has all of the
?features? a weather dial for displaying wind needs for a consumer-style
freeware program and that it cooperates as expected. Basically this could be
tacked into an existing program that doesn?t have graphic controls to
instantly provide that functionality. Either that or it could be linked to
WeatherLink, though it wouldn?t offer all that much more there.

            Right now I am adding the feature of having fake weather data
populated during design time so you can see what your changes do without
running the test form. You will probably want this later version as I have
fixed various ?issues? and consolidated the interface a bit.

 

            This probably isn?t the place for this discussion, but I was
unsure of how else to make sure my mail got through!

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

            -Mark

 

   _____  

From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Victor Engel
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:41 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Wind rose control object

 

If you're referring to this one. It arrived. I didn't reply because I'm
unclear whether it is a tool for VB programmers, or whether it is a
self-contained object, or what. How is it used, I guess is what I need to
know.

On 9/27/06, Mark Wyman <HYPERLINK
"mailto:mark at markwyman.com"mark at markwyman.com> wrote:

Hi All,

            I am for fun working on a user control in VB2005 (HYPERLINK
"http://VB.NET" \nVB.NET) that displays wind and historical wind data on a
rose that has mouse-over inquiry on the data. I am wondering if anyone would
like to test it out or offer suggestions on what I can do to improve the
control. My ultimate goal is to provide these free to whoever is developing
freeware weather software. Lots of features, and I think they look nice
also.

            So if anyone is interested, please E-mail me and I will provide
what I have directly. When I get closer to a final revision, I will put the
source code on my site for whatever anyone would like to do with it.

 

            Other controls I plan to make once I get some feedback:

 

            Air pressure/dial control with historical displays

            Temperature gauge that looks like a classic thermometer, only
has a lot of display control

            

            Possibly a wind barb that "morphs" with wind speed and
direction.

 

-Mark Wyman

 

 

 


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From gail_speer at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 21:32:48 2006
From: gail_speer at yahoo.com (Gail Speer)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error
In-Reply-To: <1159881539.45226343e6b74@mail.opentransfer.com>
Message-ID: <20061004023248.68919.qmail@web35402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You bring up some interesting points...  it would be nice if the quality reports would comment on these issues...

----- Original Message ----
From: paulgrace at lookoutranch.com
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 8:18:59 AM
Subject: Re: [wxqc] CWOP data quality error

I first joined this mailing list when I questioned my data's quality.  I 
started sending in data because I thought it would help, and went to the 
analysis page to make sure everything was okay.  I found my temp/RH data 
was "X". I subsequently learned that my data was okay, but the analysis for my 
location was off.  
I wonder if some questions could be averted by explaining some of the biggest 
causes of the red "X" that are not station-related ("You may live near a lake, 
on the side of a mountain" etc.)  Right now a lot of people assume this data is 
not being used, and it's also a little difficult to find out how the data is 
really being used.

Just a thought...


Quoting Dave Helms <dshelms at comcast.net>:

> Hi Gail,
> 
> Might be easier just to monitor your station's graphical QC statistics:
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C4512
> 
> Your dew point is getting flagged as a little bit too high, but that is 
> likely due to your proximity to the lake (don't make any changes).  Your 
> pressure is also about 1.0 mb too low and could be adjusted upward.
> 
> Dave
> CW0351
> 
> 
> Gail Speer wrote:
> 
> > I am a newbie, and signed up for the diagnosis of my weather station 
> > data.  It sent me the following:
> >    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT 
> > *    DD    *    FF    
> >                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *   
> > (DEG)  *   (KNT)  
> > 02-OCT-2006 1817    CW4512 *1009.(2.16)*  70(   5)*57.7(-2.9)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1832    CW4512 *1009.(2.26)*  73(   2)*58.7(  -4)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1847    CW4512 *1008.(2.46)*  74(   1)*57.8(  -3)*   
> > 0(-121.)*   0(3.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1902    CW4512 *1008.( 2.6)*  75(1.95)*58.2(-3.8)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1917    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  76(0.95)*58.1(-3.7)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1932    CW4512 
> > *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*59.1(-4.6)*244.(34.8)*0.87(2.17)
> > 02-OCT-2006 1947    CW4512 *1008.(2.58)*  77(-0.1)*56.4(-1.9)*   
> > 0(-96.)*   0(3.04)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2002    CW4512 *1008.(2.71)*  76(1.43)*  56(-1.4)*   
> > 0(-58.)*1.74(2.47)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2017    CW4512 *1008.(2.74)*  77(0.43)*  58(-3.5)*   
> > 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2032    CW4512 *1008.(2.64)*  77(0.43)*55.8(-1.2)*   
> > 0(-73.)*   0(4.21)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2047    CW4512 
> > *1008.(2.54)*  77(0.43)*56.4(-1.8)*  32(-90.)*0.87(3.34)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2102    CW4512 
> > *1008.(3.11)*  75(0.74)*52.8(0.97)*347.(-42.)*0.87(3.32)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2117    CW4512 
> > *1009.(2.61)*  73(2.74)*55.4(-1.6)*342.(-37.)*1.74(2.45)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2132    CW4512 *1009.(2.41)*  71(4.74)*  55(-1.2)*   
> > 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2147    CW4512 *1009.(2.11)*  70(5.74)*55.5(-1.7)*   
> > 0(-70.)*   0(4.19)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2202    CW4512 *1010.( 
> > 2.5)*  70(3.06)*55.5(-3.1)*340.(-6.2)*0.87(2.69)
> > 02-OCT-2006 2217    CW4512 *1010.( 2.2)*  69(4.06)*55.4(-3.1)*   
> > 0(-41.)*   0(3.56)
> > 02-OCT-2006 Errs    CW4512 *  18/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   *   0/85   
> > *   0/85  
> > 02-OCT-2006 Smry    CW4512 
> > *1.51(0.65)*0.88(1.88)*-1.8(1.42)*6.06(44.4)*1.98(1.19)
> >
> > How do I know what the errors are?  Is there somewhere I can look up 
> > the format of this data, and determine what the errors mean?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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From gilmer at us.ibm.com  Tue Oct  3 21:44:52 2006
From: gilmer at us.ibm.com (Phil Gilmer)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:44:52 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson
Message-ID: <OF3F60007E.55472BE8-ON072571FD.00089F05-072571FD.000F180C@us.ibm.com>






Hi,

I have a relatively new (June 06) Davis Vantage 2 set up on my roof (6'
mast attached to the parapet) here in the foothills of the Rincon Mountains
in Tucson and am recently getting reported errors for dew point. I notice
there is also a significant difference in my temperatures at night vs the
analysis (my actual readings are higher by over 10F just before sunrise )
which are explained in the quality report as likely due to proximity to
metro area. Do you think I need to consider having the sensor
re-calibrated?

There is a significant mean error in your dew point readings. You may need
to calibrate your dew point sensor. Adjust your sensor to read 3.0 ?F
higher. Your readings are not within an acceptable error range. The
automated problem analysis cannot identify the problem. You can sign up on
the wxqc mailing list and post information about this situation there. This
is may be caused by poor siting of the sensor (e.g. under eves, in screen
porch, or in thick tree coverage). For information on siting, see CWOP
Station Guide.

I agree with the post I saw today re posting known error factors; these
would be good to know.....   Also wonder how much data (days, weeks?) are
considered a valid statistical sample?

By the way the unit is on the tallest part of the house and not near flues
or vents. The house is situated on a ridge that is approx 40-50 ft higher
than the arroyos on either side.  The drive way goes through one of the
arroyos and if I walk thru at night or early in the morning the temperature
is noticeably cooler near the bottom. Also noticed the rare fog collects
there as well. Please let me know what you think or if you could use more
information. Thanks!


Phil
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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Tue Oct  3 22:13:30 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 22:13:30 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson
References: <OF3F60007E.55472BE8-ON072571FD.00089F05-072571FD.000F180C@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <026601c6e763$129d38f0$6b01a8c0@stormalerthp>

Phil,

You can check your thermometer's/hygrometer's (dewpoint) accuracy with a sling psychrometer or other calibrated measuring device, but I'm willing to bet that they're measuring correctly.

The first thing that catches my eye is that you have the temp/dpt attached to a 6 ft. sensor from your rooftop (not familiar with the term parapet, so maybe I'm wrong). While this is fine for the anemometer and even the rain gauge, the temperature/dpt sensors should be located at 2m off the ground (5-6 feet). Very sharp inversions can set up at night, on the order of 5-10F within 30-40 feet of the surface, especially where terrain and standing water bodies are an issue. Likely you're sampling a "different airmass" above your roofline than you would be closer to ground level. 

Evan


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Gilmer 
  To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:44 PM
  Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson


  Hi,

  I have a relatively new (June 06) Davis Vantage 2 set up on my roof (6' mast attached to the parapet) here in the foothills of the Rincon Mountains in Tucson and am recently getting reported errors for dew point. I notice there is also a significant difference in my temperatures at night vs the analysis (my actual readings are higher by over 10F just before sunrise ) which are explained in the quality report as likely due to proximity to metro area. Do you think I need to consider having the sensor re-calibrated? 

  There is a significant mean error in your dew point readings. You may need to calibrate your dew point sensor. Adjust your sensor to read 3.0 ?F higher. Your readings are not within an acceptable error range. The automated problem analysis cannot identify the problem. You can sign up on the wxqc mailing list and post information about this situation there. This is may be caused by poor siting of the sensor (e.g. under eves, in screen porch, or in thick tree coverage). For information on siting, see CWOP Station Guide.

  I agree with the post I saw today re posting known error factors; these would be good to know..... Also wonder how much data (days, weeks?) are considered a valid statistical sample?

  By the way the unit is on the tallest part of the house and not near flues or vents. The house is situated on a ridge that is approx 40-50 ft higher than the arroyos on either side. The drive way goes through one of the arroyos and if I walk thru at night or early in the morning the temperature is noticeably cooler near the bottom. Also noticed the rare fog collects there as well. Please let me know what you think or if you could use more information. Thanks! 


  Phil




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From jjames at jameshillfarm.com  Tue Oct  3 22:45:43 2006
From: jjames at jameshillfarm.com (John James)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:45:43 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson
In-Reply-To: <026601c6e763$129d38f0$6b01a8c0@stormalerthp>
References: <OF3F60007E.55472BE8-ON072571FD.00089F05-072571FD.000F180C@us.ibm.com>
	<026601c6e763$129d38f0$6b01a8c0@stormalerthp>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20061003203248.050efd10@jameshillfarm.com>

At 08:13 PM 10/3/2006, you wrote:
>
>The first thing that catches my eye is that you have the temp/dpt 
>attached to a 6 ft. sensor from your rooftop (not familiar with the 
>term parapet, so maybe I'm wrong). While this is fine for the 
>anemometer and even the rain gauge, the temperature/dpt sensors 
>should be located at 2m off the ground (5-6 feet). Very sharp 
>inversions can set up at night, on the order of 5-10F within 30-40 
>feet of the surface, especially where terrain and standing water 
>bodies are an issue. Likely you're sampling a "different airmass" 
>above your roofline than you would be closer to ground level.
>
>Evan
>
>

This brings up something I've been wrestling with a bit. I have a 
station up at my cabin that has been giving incorrect readings. I 
have a two story house and a somewhat wooded area in both front and 
back of my house. I don't have a very good clearing for wind, and was 
going to move the anemometer to the roof, but I don't think I'm 
getting good rainfall readings either due to the trees. I was 
thinking of moving the entire station to the roof, but knew that 
would alter the other readings. The unit is a Vantage Pro 2 Plus. I 
get the feeling I'm wrestling with which measurement I want to be 
more incorrect.

//John



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CW4661, CW4663
Web:  <http://www.jameshillfarm.com/>

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From dshelms at comcast.net  Wed Oct  4 06:51:24 2006
From: dshelms at comcast.net (Dave Helms)
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:51:24 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20061003203248.050efd10@jameshillfarm.com>
References: <OF3F60007E.55472BE8-ON072571FD.00089F05-072571FD.000F180C@us.ibm.com>	<026601c6e763$129d38f0$6b01a8c0@stormalerthp>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20061003203248.050efd10@jameshillfarm.com>
Message-ID: <4523A03C.5070402@comcast.net>

John,

Yep, that is the problem with a unimount system.  Precip and temperature 
are probably the most valuable for climate and hydrologic 
considerations.  Wind and temperatures are more important for weather 
prediction (modelers need "good" surface winds, e.g. not buried in the 
canopy).   We recommend that people put their temperature and rain gauge 
near 2 meters/5 feet and the anemometer at 10 meters/33 feet or above 
the canopy, obviously; this implied separating the sensor package.

For folks who must compromise (almost everyone does), we have a table in 
the CWOP Guide that considers typical siting option limitations that 
home owners encounter:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dshelms/CWOP_Guide.pdf


Dave
CW0351

John James wrote:

> At 08:13 PM 10/3/2006, you wrote:
>
>>  
>> The first thing that catches my eye is that you have the temp/dpt 
>> attached to a 6 ft. sensor from your rooftop (not familiar with the 
>> term parapet, so maybe I'm wrong). While this is fine for the 
>> anemometer and even the rain gauge, the temperature/dpt sensors 
>> should be located at 2m off the ground (5-6 feet). Very sharp 
>> inversions can set up at night, on the order of 5-10F within 30-40 
>> feet of the surface, especially where terrain and standing water 
>> bodies are an issue. Likely you're sampling a "different airmass" 
>> above your roofline than you would be closer to ground level.
>>  
>> Evan
>>  
>>  
>
>
> This brings up something I've been wrestling with a bit. I have a 
> station up at my cabin that has been giving incorrect readings. I have 
> a two story house and a somewhat wooded area in both front and back of 
> my house. I don't have a very good clearing for wind, and was going to 
> move the anemometer to the roof, but I don't think I'm getting good 
> rainfall readings either due to the trees. I was thinking of moving 
> the entire station to the roof, but knew that would alter the other 
> readings. The unit is a Vantage Pro 2 Plus. I get the feeling I'm 
> wrestling with which measurement I want to be more incorrect.
>
> //John
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> CW4661, CW4663
> Web:  < http://www.jameshillfarm.com/>
>
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From eholmes at aeneas.net  Thu Oct  5 10:33:29 2006
From: eholmes at aeneas.net (Eddie Holmes)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:33:29 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
Message-ID: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie>

 

Are there any servers down?  My station data is getting to my internet
server for my web page(  <http://www.jacksonweather.net/>
www.jacksonweather.net ) but not to
<http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199>
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199

 

Eddie

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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Thu Oct  5 10:58:08 2006
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:58:08 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie>
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie>
Message-ID: <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>

I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not 
appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.  Could be 
a DNS problem.

I just don't know at this point.

gerry

Eddie Holmes wrote:
> /Are there any servers down?  My station data is getting to my internet 
> server for my web page( www.jacksonweather.net 
> <http://www.jacksonweather.net/> ) but not to 
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199/
> 
>  
> 
> Eddie
> 
> 
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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Thu Oct  5 11:02:17 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:02:17 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
Message-ID: <00d501c6e897$a2aa8df0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>

I have no problem accessing the website, however it's telling me that my 
data is several hours old when it is current.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Creager" <gerry.creager at tamu.edu>
To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" 
<wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


> I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not
> appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.  Could be
> a DNS problem.
>
> I just don't know at this point.
>
> gerry
>
> Eddie Holmes wrote:
>> /Are there any servers down?  My station data is getting to my internet
>> server for my web page( www.jacksonweather.net
>> <http://www.jacksonweather.net/> ) but not to
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw4199/
>>
>>
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>>
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From steve at dimse.com  Thu Oct  5 12:15:17 2006
From: steve at dimse.com (Steve Dimse)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:15:17 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
Message-ID: <5BE5E5E1-3817-42AB-AEDA-1E03E02EB5AD@dimse.com>


On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Gerry Creager wrote:

> I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not
> appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.   
> Could be
> a DNS problem.

Both servers have been up all day from where I am connected on the  
internet, and there are no gaps in the database, so it must be an  
internet routing thing.

Steve K4HG

From eholmes at aeneas.net  Thu Oct  5 12:18:34 2006
From: eholmes at aeneas.net (Eddie Holmes)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:18:34 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <5BE5E5E1-3817-42AB-AEDA-1E03E02EB5AD@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c6e8a2$4a38a4d0$2413a8c0@Eddie>

Steve,  is that something on MY end that I need to pursue?

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Dimse
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:15 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues; Gerry Creager
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Gerry Creager wrote:

> I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not
> appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.   
> Could be
> a DNS problem.

Both servers have been up all day from where I am connected on the  
internet, and there are no gaps in the database, so it must be an  
internet routing thing.

Steve K4HG
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From steve at dimse.com  Thu Oct  5 12:19:48 2006
From: steve at dimse.com (Steve Dimse)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:19:48 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <00d501c6e897$a2aa8df0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
	<00d501c6e897$a2aa8df0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <5413050D-E2B5-4DF1-A70A-3D2EF068FA43@dimse.com>


On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:

> I have no problem accessing the website, however it's telling me  
> that my
> data is several hours old when it is current.
>
You don't give your call/cwid, so I cannot comment directly, but both  
findu servers have been up all day and have no gaps in their database  
for my data, showing the servers have been parsing throughout.

http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12
http://www2.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12

If your data has a gap, and especially if others are having trouble,  
the cause is likely in the APRS Internet System hub you are  
connecting to.

Steve K4HG

From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Thu Oct  5 12:21:47 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:21:47 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
	<5BE5E5E1-3817-42AB-AEDA-1E03E02EB5AD@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <012901c6e8a2$bceecb30$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>

My data is dumping into arizona.aprs2.net correctly, but not appearing on 
FINDU.
Not sure if this helps in your search.

Most of the other stations nearby that report in real-time have also not 
seen an observation posted in several hours.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dimse" <steve at dimse.com>
To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" 
<wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>; "Gerry Creager" <gerry.creager at tamu.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


>
> On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Gerry Creager wrote:
>
>> I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not
>> appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.
>> Could be
>> a DNS problem.
>
> Both servers have been up all day from where I am connected on the
> internet, and there are no gaps in the database, so it must be an
> internet routing thing.
>
> Steve K4HG
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From steve at dimse.com  Thu Oct  5 12:22:22 2006
From: steve at dimse.com (Steve Dimse)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:22:22 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6e8a2$4a38a4d0$2413a8c0@Eddie>
References: <000f01c6e8a2$4a38a4d0$2413a8c0@Eddie>
Message-ID: <ED7E1886-5299-4F12-942A-796B47A11E30@dimse.com>


On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Eddie Holmes wrote:

> Steve,  is that something on MY end that I need to pursue?

Probably not, what server are you connecting to?

Steve K4HG

From hultmane at msu.edu  Thu Oct  5 12:24:40 2006
From: hultmane at msu.edu (Eric A Hultman)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:24:40 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6e8a2$4a38a4d0$2413a8c0@Eddie>
References: <000f01c6e8a2$4a38a4d0$2413a8c0@Eddie>
Message-ID: <E1GVWxd-0006dg-1p@sys21.mail.msu.edu>

I doubt it, KC8YPW is down on FindU as well, but my station sent its usual 
10AM status report on time and with data. 

Ita 13:23 EST here and my sites been down 17+ hours. 

I believe since your outage correlates with mine, and my 10AM station status 
report email came in ok, that FindU is having issues. 

 -Eric Hultman 


Eddie Holmes writes: 

> Steve,  is that something on MY end that I need to pursue? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Dimse
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:15 PM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues; Gerry Creager
> Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down? 
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:58 AM, Gerry Creager wrote: 
> 
>> I'm checking on findu.com w/ their provider.  findu2 is not
>> appropriately responding, and neither is findu at this point.   
>> Could be
>> a DNS problem.
> 
> Both servers have been up all day from where I am connected on the  
> internet, and there are no gaps in the database, so it must be an  
> internet routing thing. 
> 
> Steve K4HG
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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Thu Oct  5 12:25:41 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:25:41 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
	<00d501c6e897$a2aa8df0$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
	<5413050D-E2B5-4DF1-A70A-3D2EF068FA43@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <013a01c6e8a3$48be1d50$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>

Sorry, AP536


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Dimse" <steve at dimse.com>
To: "Discussion of weather data quality issues" 
<wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


>
> On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:
>
>> I have no problem accessing the website, however it's telling me
>> that my
>> data is several hours old when it is current.
>>
> You don't give your call/cwid, so I cannot comment directly, but both
> findu servers have been up all day and have no gaps in their database
> for my data, showing the servers have been parsing throughout.
>
> http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12
> http://www2.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12
>
> If your data has a gap, and especially if others are having trouble,
> the cause is likely in the APRS Internet System hub you are
> connecting to.
>
> Steve K4HG
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From steve at dimse.com  Thu Oct  5 12:44:25 2006
From: steve at dimse.com (Steve Dimse)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:44:25 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <012901c6e8a2$bceecb30$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
References: <000001c6e893$9c1e5d30$2413a8c0@Eddie> <45252B90.5040508@tamu.edu>
	<5BE5E5E1-3817-42AB-AEDA-1E03E02EB5AD@dimse.com>
	<012901c6e8a2$bceecb30$6601a8c0@HPLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <E18BF5BE-A4AC-40DE-B811-C4A765D38CBA@dimse.com>


On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:

> My data is dumping into arizona.aprs2.net correctly, but not  
> appearing on
> FINDU.
> Not sure if this helps in your search.
>
> Most of the other stations nearby that report in real-time have  
> also not
> seen an observation posted in several hours.
>
As I say, my end of the system is functioning correctly.

Doing a quick eyeball of the current situation, it seems the tier 2  
guys have added another layer to their system, arizona connects to a  
tier 2 core server, and only from there does it go to the core of the  
APRS IS. Because so much weather data was sent directly to arizon, I  
used to have a connection directly to it, but that has now been blocked.

You need to take this up with the Arizona and Tier 2 guys, they are  
uninterested in my opinions. In the mean time, I would suggest, as I  
always do, that weather stations use rotate.aprs.net on port 23. This  
will connect you directly to the core, is fault tolerant, and has far  
less chance for failure.

Steve K4HG

From eholmes at aeneas.net  Thu Oct  5 12:54:19 2006
From: eholmes at aeneas.net (Eddie Holmes)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:54:19 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <5413050D-E2B5-4DF1-A70A-3D2EF068FA43@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6e8a7$48c28d50$2413a8c0@Eddie>

Steve, 

I'm at work, but if I recall correctly I'm connecting to arizona.aprs2.net.
I'm going to take your suggestion and connect to use rotate.aprs.net.
Thanks! 

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Dimse
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:20 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:

> I have no problem accessing the website, however it's telling me  
> that my
> data is several hours old when it is current.
>
You don't give your call/cwid, so I cannot comment directly, but both  
findu servers have been up all day and have no gaps in their database  
for my data, showing the servers have been parsing throughout.

http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12
http://www2.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=K4HG&last=12

If your data has a gap, and especially if others are having trouble,  
the cause is likely in the APRS Internet System hub you are  
connecting to.

Steve K4HG
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From deadeye916 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  5 13:07:51 2006
From: deadeye916 at gmail.com (Dan Crooks)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:07:51 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <000001c6e8a7$48c28d50$2413a8c0@Eddie>
References: <5413050D-E2B5-4DF1-A70A-3D2EF068FA43@dimse.com>
	<000001c6e8a7$48c28d50$2413a8c0@Eddie>
Message-ID: <e6757e620610051107p37321f75sf29806f41b812eda@mail.gmail.com>

Mine hadn't updated in nearly 3 hours.  Made the change in WD to use the
rotate.zprs.net server and my data showed up on the first update.

On 10/5/06, Eddie Holmes <eholmes at aeneas.net> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I'm at work, but if I recall correctly I'm connecting to arizona.aprs2.net
> .
> I'm going to take your suggestion and connect to use rotate.aprs.net.
> Thanks!
>
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From wx at w0lta.net  Thu Oct  5 13:08:03 2006
From: wx at w0lta.net (Rick Patterson)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:08:03 -0600
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <E18BF5BE-A4AC-40DE-B811-C4A765D38CBA@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <BEEHJPHDODINOIBBEDOFIEAJCIAA.wx@w0lta.net>

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the update. I to, had lost connectivity for about 45 minutes
using rotatewx.aprs2.net. It went right through with rotate.aprs.net.
Rick Patterson w0lta

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Dimse
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:44 AM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?



On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:

> My data is dumping into arizona.aprs2.net correctly, but not
> appearing on
> FINDU.
> Not sure if this helps in your search.
>
> Most of the other stations nearby that report in real-time have
> also not
> seen an observation posted in several hours.
>
As I say, my end of the system is functioning correctly.

Doing a quick eyeball of the current situation, it seems the tier 2
guys have added another layer to their system, arizona connects to a
tier 2 core server, and only from there does it go to the core of the
APRS IS. Because so much weather data was sent directly to arizon, I
used to have a connection directly to it, but that has now been blocked.

You need to take this up with the Arizona and Tier 2 guys, they are
uninterested in my opinions. In the mean time, I would suggest, as I
always do, that weather stations use rotate.aprs.net on port 23. This
will connect you directly to the core, is fault tolerant, and has far
less chance for failure.

Steve K4HG
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From cflory at comcast.net  Thu Oct  5 13:27:55 2006
From: cflory at comcast.net (Chris Flory)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:27:55 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Servers down?
In-Reply-To: <E18BF5BE-A4AC-40DE-B811-C4A765D38CBA@dimse.com>
Message-ID: <00e701c6e8ab$fa13a180$4564a8c0@chris>

rotate.aprs.net seems to have fixed my issue as well...thanks for the info!

-Chris
CW6489

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Dimse
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Servers down?


On Oct 5, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Evan Bookbinder wrote:

> My data is dumping into arizona.aprs2.net correctly, but not  
> appearing on
> FINDU.
> Not sure if this helps in your search.
>
> Most of the other stations nearby that report in real-time have  
> also not
> seen an observation posted in several hours.
>
As I say, my end of the system is functioning correctly.

Doing a quick eyeball of the current situation, it seems the tier 2  
guys have added another layer to their system, arizona connects to a  
tier 2 core server, and only from there does it go to the core of the  
APRS IS. Because so much weather data was sent directly to arizon, I  
used to have a connection directly to it, but that has now been blocked.

You need to take this up with the Arizona and Tier 2 guys, they are  
uninterested in my opinions. In the mean time, I would suggest, as I  
always do, that weather stations use rotate.aprs.net on port 23. This  
will connect you directly to the core, is fault tolerant, and has far  
less chance for failure.

Steve K4HG
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From flcyclone at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Oct  5 13:29:42 2006
From: flcyclone at tampabay.rr.com (Thomas Giella KN4LF)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 14:29:42 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Davis Vantage Pro2 Weather Station Up and Running
Message-ID: <000a01c6e8ac$39def5d0$6401a8c0@thomas>

My new #6153 Davis Vantage Pro2 weather station with fan aspirated weather station is installed and running dumping observations into MADIS via APRS and CWOP. I have some pictures and documentation online at Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm and live weather observations online at Live Lakeland, FL Weather Observations: http://www.kn4lf.com/index1.html .

Wind direction and speed is currently being measured only at 9 feet but will go on top of my new Rohn 50 foot telescoping push up mast soon. At 50 feet the wind equipment will be approximately 15 feet above the surrounding tree canopy within 1/4 mile.



Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
Lakeland, FL, USA
flycylone at tampabay.rr.com

NWS Tampa Bay, FL SKYWARN Observer #POL-10A
CWOP Station #AR692/KN4LF

Live Lakeland, FL Weather Observations: http://www.kn4lf.com/index1.html
Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm
September 2006 Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Observations http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf63.htm
Florida/US Raw Weather Forecasting Resource Links: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf13.htm
Man Induced Climate Change Refuted: http://www.kn4lf.com/globalwarminglie.htm
New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm 

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From DeerTrail131 at aol.com  Thu Oct  5 13:54:52 2006
From: DeerTrail131 at aol.com (DeerTrail131 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 14:54:52 EDT
Subject: [wxqc] Weather Stations
Message-ID: <433.797d2eb.3256aefc@aol.com>

Hello: Everyone?
 
(Information only)
 
Nice Weather information for all concerned residents in Colorado or the USA
 
Everyone is doing a great job. Thanks
 
_http://www.met.utah.edu/cgi-bin/database/state_all.cgi?state=CO&type=0_ 
(http://www.met.utah.edu/cgi-bin/database/state_all.cgi?state=CO&type=0) 
 
Ron 
wd0bdq
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From gilmer at us.ibm.com  Thu Oct  5 23:03:16 2006
From: gilmer at us.ibm.com (Phil Gilmer)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:03:16 -0700
Subject: [wxqc] Dew Point Error for CW6532 Tucson
In-Reply-To: <mailman.483.1160062423.5057.wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net>
Message-ID: <OFBC06FECF.8DD88C30-ON072571FF.0014F7D9-072571FF.001645DC@us.ibm.com>


Evan,

Thanks for the insight. I will look into this.... I have a temperature
sensor on the front porch connected to a Oregon Scientific gizmo which does
read lower, but only by a few degrees typically. So I'll borrow my
neighbor's (the HVAC guy) psychrometer  and see if readings are
significantly different from the roof for the times in question. Btw,
these Santa Fe style houses have flat roofs with the exterior walls
extending above the roof line. The part of the exterior wall that is above
the roof line is call the parapet.


Phil
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From flcyclone at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Oct  6 19:37:49 2006
From: flcyclone at tampabay.rr.com (Thomas Giella KN4LF)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:37:49 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Davis Vantage Pro2 Extension Cabling
Message-ID: <008701c6e9a8$d1a5f650$6401a8c0@thomas>

I went to the local Wal Mart today and picked up a 100 foot length of 6 wire telephone extension cable with the male plug on one end and the female jack on the other end for $11.99. The included 40 feet of wind vane/anemometer cable is only of the 4 wire type but in any event the 4 wire cable meshed perfectly with the Wal Mart 6 wire cable and all is working okay. I sealed the connections with liquid electric tape so water will never get in. It was less expensive than buying the Davis extension cables.

The wind vane/anemometer is now up at 35 feet atop a push up mast but still right at tree line from west around to north. In 2-3 weeks it will sit atop a 50 foot push up mast via the wireless option so it can be hit by lightning!!!

Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
Lakeland, FL, USA
flycylone at tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Thomas Giella KN4LF 
To: a vantagepro eGroup 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Davis Vantage Pro2 Question


Hello To All,

I'm new to the eGroup.

I just purchased a Davis Vantage Pro2 with the optional fan aspirated temperature/humidity shelter. As all know the Pro2 has the integrated sensor suite (ISS) with wind vane/anemometer attached. You can run the included cable of 40 feet between the ISS and anemometer/wind vane unit and add cable extensions of up to 540 feet. 

For better wind data accuracy I need to detach the anemometer/wind vane from the ISS and place it at 35 feet up on a mast, further away than the 40 foot included extension cable.

I have a some questions. Is the 40 foot extension cable a regular telephone type cable with male connectors on each end? Also can I buy regular telephone cable extensions with the male RJ-45 male plug on one end and female jack on the other, at Wal Mart, Home Depot, etc to use with the included 40 foot cable to the ISS from the anemometer/wind vane? Or do I have to buy the Davis (overpriced in my opinion) cables? I've heard of some alleged sensitivity and polarity issues with the standard telephone cable extensions.

Next month I'm buying the model #6332 wireless version of the wind vane/anemometer and the cable thing will not be an issue.


Take Care,
Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
Lakeland, FL, USA
flycylone at tampabay.rr.com

NWS Tampa Bay, FL SKYWARN Observer #POL-10A
CWOP Station #AR692/KN4LF

Live Lakeland, FL Weather Observations: http://www.kn4lf.com/index1.html
Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm
September 2006 Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Observations http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf63.htm
Florida/US Raw Weather Forecasting Resource Links: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf13.htm
Man Induced Climate Change Refuted: http://www.kn4lf.com/globalwarminglie.htm
New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm 
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From Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov  Fri Oct  6 19:59:40 2006
From: Evan.Bookbinder at noaa.gov (Evan Bookbinder)
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:59:40 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] Davis Vantage Pro2 Extension Cabling
References: <008701c6e9a8$d1a5f650$6401a8c0@thomas>
Message-ID: <005301c6e9ab$df039070$6501a8c0@HPLAPTOP>

Thomas,

Glad to hear!!! What do you mean hit by lightning? It never thunderstorms in Florida :))))))) 

Just out of curiosity, what is involved with "space plasma"?? Feel free to email me off list as that is offtopic.

Evan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Giella KN4LF 
  To: a WXStation eGroup ; a WXQC e-List ; a vantagepro eGroup 
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [wxqc] Davis Vantage Pro2 Extension Cabling


  I went to the local Wal Mart today and picked up a 100 foot length of 6 wire telephone extension cable with the male plug on one end and the female jack on the other end for $11.99. The included 40 feet of wind vane/anemometer cable is only of the 4 wire type but in any event the 4 wire cable meshed perfectly with the Wal Mart 6 wire cable and all is working okay. I sealed the connections with liquid electric tape so water will never get in. It was less expensive than buying the Davis extension cables.

  The wind vane/anemometer is now up at 35 feet atop a push up mast but still right at tree line from west around to north. In 2-3 weeks it will sit atop a 50 foot push up mast via the wireless option so it can be hit by lightning!!!

  Take Care,
  Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
  Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
  Lakeland, FL, USA
  flycylone at tampabay.rr.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Giella KN4LF 
  To: a vantagepro eGroup 
  Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:24 PM
  Subject: Davis Vantage Pro2 Question


  Hello To All,

  I'm new to the eGroup.

  I just purchased a Davis Vantage Pro2 with the optional fan aspirated temperature/humidity shelter. As all know the Pro2 has the integrated sensor suite (ISS) with wind vane/anemometer attached. You can run the included cable of 40 feet between the ISS and anemometer/wind vane unit and add cable extensions of up to 540 feet. 

  For better wind data accuracy I need to detach the anemometer/wind vane from the ISS and place it at 35 feet up on a mast, further away than the 40 foot included extension cable.

  I have a some questions. Is the 40 foot extension cable a regular telephone type cable with male connectors on each end? Also can I buy regular telephone cable extensions with the male RJ-45 male plug on one end and female jack on the other, at Wal Mart, Home Depot, etc to use with the included 40 foot cable to the ISS from the anemometer/wind vane? Or do I have to buy the Davis (overpriced in my opinion) cables? I've heard of some alleged sensitivity and polarity issues with the standard telephone cable extensions.

  Next month I'm buying the model #6332 wireless version of the wind vane/anemometer and the cable thing will not be an issue.


  Take Care,
  Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
  Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
  Lakeland, FL, USA
  flycylone at tampabay.rr.com

  NWS Tampa Bay, FL SKYWARN Observer #POL-10A
  CWOP Station #AR692/KN4LF

  Live Lakeland, FL Weather Observations: http://www.kn4lf.com/index1.html
  Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf22.htm
  September 2006 Lakeland, FL Daily Climatological Weather Observations http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf63.htm
  Florida/US Raw Weather Forecasting Resource Links: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf13.htm
  Man Induced Climate Change Refuted: http://www.kn4lf.com/globalwarminglie.htm
  New Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God: http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm 



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From dbj at capital.net  Sun Oct  8 22:49:40 2006
From: dbj at capital.net (dbj at capital.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:49:40 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] temperature errors
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From brillig at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 08:31:22 2006
From: brillig at gmail.com (Victor Engel)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 08:31:22 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] temperature errors
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20061008234735.02d6cb00@pop.capital.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20061008234735.02d6cb00@pop.capital.net>
Message-ID: <e0e999680610090631s385a8b75h4023dc1b57136b45@mail.gmail.com>

Judging by the data on that link, you are significantly higher than your
neighbors. If that is true, that will make a big difference.

On 10/8/06, dbj at capital.net <dbj at capital.net> wrote:
>
> My new Davis Vantage Pro 2 has been operating since the beginning of
> August 06.  As shown in the link below, on average, the temperature readings
> have been about 2 degrees F warmer than most other nearby weather stations,
> with the greatest difference occurring at night.  As shown below from the
> weather data quality report for this past day, temps. were up to 9 degrees F
> warmer at my station.
>
> I installed a new temp. sensor during the last week of August.  Davis sent
> me a replacement after the original one malfunctioned by reading -90 F when
> the humidity reached 100%.  Do I have another sensor problem, a siting
> problem or is my location warmer for some reason?  Pictures of my site are
> available at the link below.  The temp. sensor is five feet above the ground
> but is located near the edge of a steep bank.
>
> Thanks for any help.  David Johnson
>
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C6304?tile=10;days=3#Data
>
> Date UTC SITE Alt (mb) Temp ?F DewPt ?F Wind Dir Speed knts
> 08-OCT-2006 0457 CW6304 1028.0 +0.15 *46* *-7.62* 40 -2.41 95 -14 1.7 -1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0517 CW6304 1028.0 +0.15 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.73 157 -76 0.9 -
> 0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0527 CW6304 1028.1 +0.05 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.40 133 -52 0.9 -
> 0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0537 CW6304 1027.9 +0.25 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.40 134 -53 0.9 -
> 0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0558 CW6304 1027.9 -0.09 *46* *-9.11* 40 -3.52 0 +106 0.0 +0.0
> 08-OCT-2006 0619 CW6304 1027.9 -0.09 *46* *-9.11* 40 -3.84 134 +4 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0629 CW6304 1027.8 +0.01 *44* *-7.11* 40 -3.12 115 +23 1.7 -
> 1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0646 CW6304 1027.8 +0.01 *44* *-7.11* 40 -3.43 68 +70 2.6 -2.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0657 CW6304 1027.8 -0.02 *44* *-8.06* 40 -4.78 65 +71 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0717 CW6304 1027.9 -0.12 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 70 +66 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0726 CW6304 1027.8 -0.02 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 63 +73 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0746 CW6304 1027.9 -0.12 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 79 +57 1.7 -1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0756 CW6304 1027.8 +0.05 *43* *-8.09* 40 -5.11 79 +25 1.7 -1.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0817 CW6304 1027.7 +0.15 *44* *-9.09* 40 -5.51 80 +24 1.7 -1.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0827 CW6304 1027.7 +0.15 *44* *-9.09* 40 -5.51 80 +24 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0847 CW6304 1027.9 -0.05 *43* *-8.09* 40 -5.11 0 +73 0.0 +0.1
> 08-OCT-2006 0857 CW6304 1028.0 -0.13 *42* *-7.65* 39 -4.77 80 -97 0.9 -0.3
> 08-OCT-2006 0907 CW6304 1028.2 -0.33 *42* *-7.65* 40 -5.06 85 -102 0.9 -
> 0.3
> 08-OCT-2006 0927 CW6304 1028.2 -0.33 *41* *-6.65* 39 -4.62 0 -49 0.0 +0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 1116 CW6304 1028.2 +0.23 *40* *-7.23* 39 -5.49 66 +56 4.3 -4.3
> 08-OCT-2006 1126 CW6304 1028.2 +0.23 *40* *-7.23* 38 -5.22 78 +44 3.5 -3.4
> 08-OCT-2006 1146 CW6304 1028.7 -0.27 *41* *-8.23* 40 -6.49 74 +48 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 1156 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -5.39 32 +68 0.9 -0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 1217 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -4.56 0 +68 0.0 +0.2
> 08-OCT-2006 1227 CW6304 1028.7 -0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -5.11 0 +68 0.0 +0.2
> 08-OCT-2006 1247 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *43* *-9.66* 41 -6.85 24 +76 0.9 -0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 Errs CW6304 0/95 37/95 0/95 0/95 0/95
> 08-OCT-2006 Smry CW6304 -0.2 0.38 -6 2.31 -1 3.42 +1 80 -1.4 1.4
> 08-OCT-2006 Week CW6304 -0.8 0.61 -3 2.81 -1 1.97 +5 68 -2.1 2.1
>
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From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Mon Oct  9 08:45:39 2006
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:45:39 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] temperature errors
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20061008234735.02d6cb00@pop.capital.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20061008234735.02d6cb00@pop.capital.net>
Message-ID: <452A5283.7010207@tamu.edu>

How far above your compisite roof is the radiation shield?  I'm a bit 
concerned that you're seeing a temperature anomaly because you're seeing 
an indication of the roof's radiated heat.

One potential issue with QC analysis that comparison of nearby stations 
can be when there is a combination of no really nearby stations and 
complex topography leading to QC checks showing a Big Rex X (tm) and 
causing concern.

Have you spot-checked temperatures with a good, calibrated thermometer? 
  That'd be be a good first step.

I like this reference for information on siting on/around structures. 
It's mainly designed to allow adequate siting information for 
mesonet-type installations in urban zones but the information about 
siting temperature and anemometry sensors above rooflines is worth 
reading: 
http://www.wmo.ch/web/www/IMOP/publications/IOM-81/IOM-81-UrbanMetObs.pdf

gerry

dbj at capital.net wrote:
> My new Davis Vantage Pro 2 has been operating since the beginning of 
> August 06.  As shown in the link below, on average, the temperature 
> readings have been about 2 degrees F warmer than most other nearby 
> weather stations, with the greatest difference occurring at night.  As 
> shown below from the weather data quality report for this past day, 
> temps. were up to 9 degrees F warmer at my station. 
> 
> I installed a new temp. sensor during the last week of August.  Davis 
> sent me a replacement after the original one malfunctioned by reading 
> -90 F when the humidity reached 100%.  Do I have another sensor problem, 
> a siting problem or is my location warmer for some reason?  Pictures of 
> my site are available at the link below.  The temp. sensor is five feet 
> above the ground but is located near the edge of a steep bank.    
> 
> Thanks for any help.  David Johnson
> 
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C6304?tile=10;days=3#Data
> 
> Date UTC SITE Alt (mb) Temp ?F DewPt ?F Wind Dir Speed knts
> 08-OCT-2006 0457 CW6304 1028.0 +0.15 *46* *-7.62* 40 -2.41 95 -14 1.7 -1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0517 CW6304 1028.0 +0.15 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.73 157 -76 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0527 CW6304 1028.1 +0.05 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.40 133 -52 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0537 CW6304 1027.9 +0.25 *47* *-8.62* 40 -2.40 134 -53 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0558 CW6304 1027.9 -0.09 *46* *-9.11* 40 -3.52 0 +106 0.0 +0.0
> 08-OCT-2006 0619 CW6304 1027.9 -0.09 *46* *-9.11* 40 -3.84 134 +4 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0629 CW6304 1027.8 +0.01 *44* *-7.11* 40 -3.12 115 +23 1.7 -1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0646 CW6304 1027.8 +0.01 *44* *-7.11* 40 -3.43 68 +70 2.6 -2.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0657 CW6304 1027.8 -0.02 *44* *-8.06* 40 -4.78 65 +71 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0717 CW6304 1027.9 -0.12 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 70 +66 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0726 CW6304 1027.8 -0.02 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 63 +73 2.6 -2.5
> 08-OCT-2006 0746 CW6304 1027.9 -0.12 *43* *-7.06* 40 -4.38 79 +57 1.7 -1.7
> 08-OCT-2006 0756 CW6304 1027.8 +0.05 *43* *-8.09* 40 -5.11 79 +25 1.7 -1.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0817 CW6304 1027.7 +0.15 *44* *-9.09* 40 -5.51 80 +24 1.7 -1.6
> 08-OCT-2006 0827 CW6304 1027.7 +0.15 *44* *-9.09* 40 -5.51 80 +24 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 0847 CW6304 1027.9 -0.05 *43* *-8.09* 40 -5.11 0 +73 0.0 +0.1
> 08-OCT-2006 0857 CW6304 1028.0 -0.13 *42* *-7.65* 39 -4.77 80 -97 0.9 -0.3
> 08-OCT-2006 0907 CW6304 1028.2 -0.33 *42* *-7.65* 40 -5.06 85 -102 0.9 -0.3
> 08-OCT-2006 0927 CW6304 1028.2 -0.33 *41* *-6.65* 39 -4.62 0 -49 0.0 +0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 1116 CW6304 1028.2 +0.23 *40* *-7.23* 39 -5.49 66 +56 4.3 -4.3
> 08-OCT-2006 1126 CW6304 1028.2 +0.23 *40* *-7.23* 38 -5.22 78 +44 3.5 -3.4
> 08-OCT-2006 1146 CW6304 1028.7 -0.27 *41* *-8.23* 40 -6.49 74 +48 0.9 -0.8
> 08-OCT-2006 1156 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -5.39 32 +68 0.9 -0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 1217 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -4.56 0 +68 0.0 +0.2
> 08-OCT-2006 1227 CW6304 1028.7 -0.05 *42* *-8.66* 40 -5.11 0 +68 0.0 +0.2
> 08-OCT-2006 1247 CW6304 1028.6 +0.05 *43* *-9.66* 41 -6.85 24 +76 0.9 -0.6
> 08-OCT-2006 Errs CW6304 0/95 37/95 0/95 0/95 0/95
> 08-OCT-2006 Smry CW6304 -0.2 0.38 -6 2.31 -1 3.42 +1 80 -1.4 1.4
> 08-OCT-2006 Week CW6304 -0.8 0.61 -3 2.81 -1 1.97 +5 68 -2.1 2.1
> 
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From dbj at capital.net  Mon Oct  9 10:13:40 2006
From: dbj at capital.net (dbj at capital.net)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:13:40 -0400
Subject: [wxqc]  temperature errors
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20061009111035.02d842c0@pop.capital.net>

Gerry, The radiation shield is located in my backyard on a post 5 feet 
above the ground.  Only the anemometer is above the roof.  See images 4,6,7 
and 9 at the 
link:  http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C6304?tile=10;days=3#Data



From hultmane at msu.edu  Mon Oct  9 10:43:43 2006
From: hultmane at msu.edu (Eric A Hultman)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:43:43 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP
Message-ID: <E1GWxI7-0000fj-Ax@sys19.mail.msu.edu>

 

Is there any possiblity to remove a station from CWOP? There is a station 
local to me that has been broadcasting defective data for over a year now. 
Made worse its an amature radio club's system, but the listed contact's 
email address is no longer valid. Perhaps the station was abandoned. I am 
not sure, the licence due to expire next month.. 

 ------------ 

Here is a copy of the email I tried to send to them. 

From: Eric Hultman [mailto:hultmane at comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 22:05
To: 'lowellarc at juno.com'
Subject: Weather Station - Non Functional? 


Hi, this is KC8YPW ? Eric Hultman, and I just did a QRZ lookup for the 
station W8LRC to determine the owner of a weather station located at or near 
Alden nash rd and between Downes and McPherson Street. 

 

The reason for the contact is I am trying to see if you can either reset 
your weather station or possibly take it offline. For over a year now your 
readings have been reported into the national weather service via CWOP and 
MADIS has been tracking values that are at times up  to 120Deg F out of snyc 
with the rest of the surrounding area. 

 

The reason that this came to my attention is that my station?s own 
reported values are being error checked against your station and several 
other stations in the surrounding area. When your stations values are taken 
into account it skews the averages such that my reports could potentially be 
shifted. 

 

Can you please review your results and correct the error? 

 

Here is a link to your general page: 

http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/AP827?tile=10;days=364#Data 

 

To give you some idea ? here is what I see from my end: 

 

KGRR
3.9 miles
E

Grand Rapids, Gerald R. Ford International Airport, MI, United States of 
America (lat 42.8808?, long -85.5228?, altitude 241 meters)
0.5
 -0.6
 -2.7 

CW5506
9.2 miles
NW

Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 42.9704?, long -85.7194?, altitude 231 meters)
 -0.6
 -0.2
 -1.4 

CW1502
9.3 miles
W

Grandville, MI US (lat 42.8975?, long -85.7788?, altitude 186 meters)
 -1.6
1.1
 -1.4 

CW5335
10.4 miles
NW

Walker, MI US (lat 42.9397?, long -85.7820?, altitude 207 meters)
0.1
1.4
 -0.1 

K08C
11.4 miles
NW

Jenison, MI US (lat 42.9358?, long -85.8050?, altitude 187 meters)
21.1
 -0.2
 

CW5790
12.8 miles
N

Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 43.0563?, long -85.6153?, altitude 221 meters)
1.0
1.6
 -2.1 

KC8LCP-9
13.4 miles
W

Hudsonville, MI US (lat 42.8663?, long -85.8617?, altitude 194 meters)
 -1.3
1.3
 -2.9 

W8LRC
14.1 miles
NE

Lowell, MI US (lat 42.9897?, long -85.3715?, altitude 252 meters)
86.4
45.8
41.0 

CW4000
16.5 miles
N

Rockford, MI US (lat 43.1037?, long -85.5162?, altitude 262 meters)
1.4
1.0
 -2.3 

CW5467
16.7 miles
S

Hopkins, MI US (lat 42.6383?, long -85.6793?, altitude 225 meters)
 -2.7
 -3.2
 -2.4 

 

Any help would be great. I am more than happy to try and answer any 
questions you may have if I am able. 

 

Thank you, 

 




From gerry.creager at tamu.edu  Mon Oct  9 10:53:58 2006
From: gerry.creager at tamu.edu (Gerry Creager)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:53:58 -0500
Subject: [wxqc] temperature errors
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20061009111035.02d842c0@pop.capital.net>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20061009111035.02d842c0@pop.capital.net>
Message-ID: <452A7096.1050906@tamu.edu>

That's what I get for looking at the pix with insufficient coffee onboard.

SO: The issue of radiated heating is not a factor, and we come back to 
one of the potential drawbacks of nearest neighbor comparison for QC.  I 
suspect that you need to confirm spot temperature readings with an 
analog, calibrated thermometer and then see where you lie.  Remember to 
shade the analog thermometer to that direct solar radiation doesn't 
cause an anomalous reading.  If this check shows you're in the range, 
then I suspect that the QC comment is noting a real microclimate variation.

gerry

dbj at capital.net wrote:
> Gerry, The radiation shield is located in my backyard on a post 5 feet 
> above the ground.  Only the anemometer is above the roof.  See images 4,6,7 
> and 9 at the 
> link:  http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C6304?tile=10;days=3#Data
> 
> 
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From n9lya at blueriver.net  Mon Oct  9 14:16:33 2006
From: n9lya at blueriver.net (Jerry)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:16:33 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP
In-Reply-To: <E1GWxI7-0000fj-Ax@sys19.mail.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <001f01c6ebd7$7241f8e0$8501a8c0@kutche101>

Hi Eric.. Have you tried sending a note via the US MAIL system???
Does the club have a webpage???? The Trustee should be listed on the license
as well.. Have you tried contacting that person...


Hope this helps...   73 Jerry N9LYA



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-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Eric A Hultman
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:44 AM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP

 
Is there any possiblity to remove a station from CWOP? There is a station
local to me that has been broadcasting defective data for over a year now.
Made worse its an amature radio club's system, but the listed contact's
email address is no longer valid. Perhaps the station was abandoned. I am
not sure, the licence due to expire next month.. 
 ------------ 
Here is a copy of the email I tried to send to them. 
From: Eric Hultman [mailto:hultmane at comcast.net]Sent: Sunday, October 08,
2006 22:05To: 'lowellarc at juno.com'Subject: Weather Station - Non Functional?


Hi, this is KC8YPW ? Eric Hultman, and I just did a QRZ lookup for the
station W8LRC to determine the owner of a weather station located at or near
Alden nash rd and between Downes and McPherson Street. 
 
The reason for the contact is I am trying to see if you can either reset
your weather station or possibly take it offline. For over a year now your
readings have been reported into the national weather service via CWOP and
MADIS has been tracking values that are at times up  to 120Deg F out of snyc
with the rest of the surrounding area. 
 
The reason that this came to my attention is that my station?s own reported
values are being error checked against your station and several other
stations in the surrounding area. When your stations values are taken into
account it skews the averages such that my reports could potentially be
shifted. 
 
Can you please review your results and correct the error? 
 
Here is a link to your general page: 
http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/AP827?tile=10;days=364#Data 
 
To give you some idea ? here is what I see from my end: 
 
KGRR3.9 milesE
Grand Rapids, Gerald R. Ford International Airport, MI, United States of
America (lat 42.8808?, long -85.5228?, altitude 241 meters)0.5 -0.6 -2.7 
CW55069.2 milesNW
Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 42.9704?, long -85.7194?, altitude 231 meters) -0.6
-0.2 -1.4 
CW15029.3 milesW
Grandville, MI US (lat 42.8975?, long -85.7788?, altitude 186 meters)
-1.61.1 -1.4 
CW533510.4 milesNW
Walker, MI US (lat 42.9397?, long -85.7820?, altitude 207 meters)0.11.4 -0.1

K08C11.4 milesNW
Jenison, MI US (lat 42.9358?, long -85.8050?, altitude 187 meters)21.1 -0.2 
CW579012.8 milesN
Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 43.0563?, long -85.6153?, altitude 221
meters)1.01.6 -2.1 
KC8LCP-913.4 milesW
Hudsonville, MI US (lat 42.8663?, long -85.8617?, altitude 194 meters)
-1.31.3 -2.9 
W8LRC14.1 milesNE
Lowell, MI US (lat 42.9897?, long -85.3715?, altitude 252
meters)86.445.841.0 
CW400016.5 milesN
Rockford, MI US (lat 43.1037?, long -85.5162?, altitude 262 meters)1.41.0
-2.3 
CW546716.7 milesS
Hopkins, MI US (lat 42.6383?, long -85.6793?, altitude 225 meters) -2.7 -3.2
-2.4 
 
Any help would be great. I am more than happy to try and answer any
questions you may have if I am able. 
 
Thank you, 
 


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From hultmane at msu.edu  Mon Oct  9 14:39:01 2006
From: hultmane at msu.edu (Eric A Hultman)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:39:01 -0400
Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP
In-Reply-To: <001f01c6ebd7$7241f8e0$8501a8c0@kutche101>
References: <001f01c6ebd7$7241f8e0$8501a8c0@kutche101>
Message-ID: <E1GX0xp-0007u7-Nb@sys28.mail.msu.edu>

I did find information on the station's licencee - i.e. the person listed on 
the licence via the QRZ lookup but the email was invalid. I was hoping that 
someone could find out the CWOP registration email and possibly send them a 
notice if that account listing differs from the one I posted earlier. 

Good call on looking for the station's website. I found the website address 
when I did a lookup under the local repeater listings. Under that I found a 
new email address listed which I havent tried yet. I will contact them to 
see if they know anything. 

US MAIL,, whats that? :P
No I didnt mail the club yet, but thats a further option to try. 

Thanks,
 -Eric 

Jerry writes: 

> Hi Eric.. Have you tried sending a note via the US MAIL system???
> Does the club have a webpage???? The Trustee should be listed on the license
> as well.. Have you tried contacting that person... 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps...   73 Jerry N9LYA 
> 
>  
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------- 
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> Please visit NetIBA at http://www.netiba.com/?293
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Eric A Hultman
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
> Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP 
> 
>  
> Is there any possiblity to remove a station from CWOP? There is a station
> local to me that has been broadcasting defective data for over a year now.
> Made worse its an amature radio club's system, but the listed contact's
> email address is no longer valid. Perhaps the station was abandoned. I am
> not sure, the licence due to expire next month.. 
>  ------------ 
> Here is a copy of the email I tried to send to them. 
> From: Eric Hultman [mailto:hultmane at comcast.net]Sent: Sunday, October 08,
> 2006 22:05To: 'lowellarc at juno.com'Subject: Weather Station - Non Functional? 
> 
> 
> Hi, this is KC8YPW ? Eric Hultman, and I just did a QRZ lookup for the
> station W8LRC to determine the owner of a weather station located at or near
> Alden nash rd and between Downes and McPherson Street. 
>  
> The reason for the contact is I am trying to see if you can either reset
> your weather station or possibly take it offline. For over a year now your
> readings have been reported into the national weather service via CWOP and
> MADIS has been tracking values that are at times up  to 120Deg F out of snyc
> with the rest of the surrounding area. 
>  
> The reason that this came to my attention is that my station?s own reported
> values are being error checked against your station and several other
> stations in the surrounding area. When your stations values are taken into
> account it skews the averages such that my reports could potentially be
> shifted. 
>  
> Can you please review your results and correct the error? 
>  
> Here is a link to your general page: 
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/AP827?tile=10;days=364#Data 
>  
> To give you some idea ? here is what I see from my end: 
>  
> KGRR3.9 milesE
> Grand Rapids, Gerald R. Ford International Airport, MI, United States of
> America (lat 42.8808?, long -85.5228?, altitude 241 meters)0.5 -0.6 -2.7 
> CW55069.2 milesNW
> Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 42.9704?, long -85.7194?, altitude 231 meters) -0.6
> -0.2 -1.4 
> CW15029.3 milesW
> Grandville, MI US (lat 42.8975?, long -85.7788?, altitude 186 meters)
> -1.61.1 -1.4 
> CW533510.4 milesNW
> Walker, MI US (lat 42.9397?, long -85.7820?, altitude 207 meters)0.11.4 -0.1 
> 
> K08C11.4 milesNW
> Jenison, MI US (lat 42.9358?, long -85.8050?, altitude 187 meters)21.1 -0.2 
> CW579012.8 milesN
> Grand Rapids, MI US (lat 43.0563?, long -85.6153?, altitude 221
> meters)1.01.6 -2.1 
> KC8LCP-913.4 milesW
> Hudsonville, MI US (lat 42.8663?, long -85.8617?, altitude 194 meters)
> -1.31.3 -2.9 
> W8LRC14.1 milesNE
> Lowell, MI US (lat 42.9897?, long -85.3715?, altitude 252
> meters)86.445.841.0 
> CW400016.5 milesN
> Rockford, MI US (lat 43.1037?, long -85.5162?, altitude 262 meters)1.41.0
> -2.3 
> CW546716.7 milesS
> Hopkins, MI US (lat 42.6383?, long -85.6793?, altitude 225 meters) -2.7 -3.2
> -2.4 
>  
> Any help would be great. I am more than happy to try and answer any
> questions you may have if I am able. 
>  
> Thank you, 
>   
> 
> 
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From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov  Mon Oct  9 14:49:34 2006
From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russ Chadwick)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:49:34 -0600
Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP
In-Reply-To: <E1GX0xp-0007u7-Nb@sys28.mail.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <00b401c6ebdc$0b7a3a50$c76e4b89@jedi>

Station AP827 (W8LRC) has been removed from the CWOP data stream that is
sent to MADIS for quality checking and distribution to users.  Let me know
if AP827 is still being used in the QC after Wednesday.

Russ  KB0TVJ

-----Original Message-----
From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
[mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Eric A Hultman
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:39 PM
To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
Subject: Re: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP

I did find information on the station's licencee - i.e. the person listed on

the licence via the QRZ lookup but the email was invalid. I was hoping that 
someone could find out the CWOP registration email and possibly send them a 
notice if that account listing differs from the one I posted earlier. 

Good call on looking for the station's website. I found the website address 
when I did a lookup under the local repeater listings. Under that I found a 
new email address listed which I havent tried yet. I will contact them to 
see if they know anything. 

US MAIL,, whats that? :P
No I didnt mail the club yet, but thats a further option to try. 

Thanks,
 -Eric 

Jerry writes: 

> Hi Eric.. Have you tried sending a note via the US MAIL system???
> Does the club have a webpage???? The Trustee should be listed on the
license
> as well.. Have you tried contacting that person... 
> 
> 
> Hope this helps...   73 Jerry N9LYA 
> 
>  
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------- 
> "n9lya at n9lya.com" is a NetIBA certified email address. Certificate
#547182E.
> Please visit NetIBA at http://www.netiba.com/?293
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Eric A
Hultman
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
> Subject: [wxqc] Removing a station from CWOP 
> 
>  
> Is there any possiblity to remove a station from CWOP? There is a station
> local to me that has been broadcasting defective data for over a year now.
> Made worse its an amature radio club's system, but the listed contact's
> email address is no longer valid. Perhaps the station was abandoned. I am
> not sure, the licence due to expire next month.. 
>  ------------ 
> Here is a copy of the email I tried to send to them. 
> From: Eric Hultman [mailto:hultmane at comcast.net]Sent: Sunday, October 08,
> 2006 22:05To: 'lowellarc at juno.com'Subject: Weather Station - Non
Functional? 
> 
> 
> Hi, this is KC8YPW ? Eric Hultman