[wxqc] High Frequency Updates verses Noise (or when the seagull,
butterfly, and flea have their day)
Dave Helms
dshelms at comcast.net
Tue Mar 7 21:34:08 EST 2006
Hey Sam,
You got me thinking about the importance, or lack of importance, of high
frequency observations. Chaos theory explains how it is possible for
small differences in the initial conditions to cause large differences
in future predictions. The atmospheric physicist Edward Lorenz
discovered this by making what he thought were statistically
insignificant approximations in his numerical weather models which he
observed caused disproportionately large changes to the forecast output.
Its true that most wiggles on your time series will never influence
future weather events in any tangible way. However, there are several
cases that show how gravity waves, detectable by small pressure changes,
can travel hundreds of miles to trigger thunderstorm formation.
More from Edward Lorenz and Johnathan Swift on the importance of small
differences in initial conditions -
In a paper in 1963 given to the New York Academy of Sciences, Lorenz
remarked: /
One meteorologist remarked that if the theory were correct, one flap of
a seagull's wings would be enough to alter the course of the weather
forever./
At the December 1972 meeting of the American Association for the
Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C., the sea gull had evolved
into the more poetic butterfly - the title of his talk was:
/Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly’s Wings in Brazil set off
a Tornado in Texas?/
In an 1733 quatrain by Jonathan Swift:
"So, naturalists observe, a flea will bite its dog most readily. The
dog, surprised, will bite its master, who changes course with actions
rasher."
One more plug for the magic of 5 minute updates... It is always better
to have time synchronized data updates. ASOS is currently delivering
only hourly updates, but there is interest from both the government and
private sector in collecting ASOS data every minute (AWOS stations
typically send updates every 20 minutes). However, every other major
observing system in NOAA updates every 5 minutes including GOES Rapid
Scan, NexRad storm mode, and the NOAA Profiler Network.
Sorry about my fixation on this issue as I'm making a mountain out of a
mole hill, me thinks :),
Dave
CW0351
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More on butterflies, power outages, and ensemble model prediction:
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi652.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/15/MN191082.DTL
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/physical_science/physics/thermal/Butterfly.html
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mcc/chaos_new/Lorenz.html
http://www.kporterfield.com/writes/Creative_Writes_13.html
http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?title=Why_doesn't_the_exact_same_model_work_out_the_same%3F
An Ensemble Forecasting Primer:
http://ams.allenpress.com/amsonline/?request=get-document&doi=10.1175%2F1520-0434(1997)012%3C0809:AEFP%3E2.0.CO%3B2
To describe the flow of information from small to large scales, the
authors offer an inversion of the 1733 quatrain by Jonathan Swift that
inspired Richardson2
<http://ams.allenpress.com/amsonline/?request=get-document&doi=10.1175%2F1520-0434%281997%29012%3C0809:AEFP%3E2.0.CO%3B2#n2>
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