[wxqc] Wrong focus?

Philip Gladstone philip at gladstonefamily.net
Thu Feb 23 13:40:24 EST 2006


I have an experimental version of the site info page that shows some of 
this information:

http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxsite2.pl/c0499

If you look at the neighboring stations area, you get to see the average 
difference between the sensor values. This sometimes can show up some of 
your neighbours.....

Philip

RapidsWx wrote:
> Gave up on those little red x's for pressure and started using:
> 
> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/qchart/C0499?&addnl=C4420&addnl=KGPZ
> 
> KGPZ is the local airport
> CW0499 is a VP1 at the office
> CW4420 is a VP2 at the house 20 miles away from the former and latter
> 
> My stations seem to be pretty close for pressure to each other but
> substantially different from KGPZ and the analysis.
> 
> Temp seems about the same throughout all four.
> 
> Dewpoint and humidity leave KGPZ as the odd-man-out.
> 
> Doubt that they will ever all agree. I use the tool in the link above to
> view the trends which for the most part are pretty similar to each other
> even there is separation in the scale.
> 
> - Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net
> [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of
> James.Dudley at noaa.gov
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:35 AM
> To: Discussion of weather data quality issues
> Subject: Re: [wxqc] Wrong focus?
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I agree with Keith. I understand the focus of the verification statistics is
> to give stations a baseline for what are considered "good"
> observations based on surrounding stations. It is just that, a baseline.
> It is quite rare that two stations (let alone several surrounding
> stations) will have data that is identical. In my experience, each station
> should have its own "microclimate identity" with unique data.
> Yes, stations lying in similiar environments (dry land, flat topography,
> etc) should have similiar readings, given an unchanging pattern). Even
> properly sited instruments will have differing readings based on a myriad of
> location affects such as type of soil, vegetation distribution (grass vs
> dirt vs rock). As new stations come on line, In complex terrain all bets are
> off and trying to emulate a surrounding station by altering one's readings
> is counter productive. We need to know what the extremes are  in these
> microclimates as long as the data is good for that microclimate. As new
> stations come on line, I suggest we send the operator a statement explaining
> just what the statistics mean and how they can use the results. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jim Dudley
> CW2553
> Hanford CA
> 
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