From cjfasciano at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 22:06:14 2005 From: cjfasciano at comcast.net (Christopher J. Fasciano) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:06:21 2005 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 Message-ID: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> -- Christopher J. Fasciano -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: Weather Quality To: cjfasciano@comcast.net Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( 6.8) 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( 5.6) 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value is higher than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to pick out the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a daily summary and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation during that day. Graphs: http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 For more information about quality checking, then visit http://www.wxqa.com/ To discuss, sign up to WXQC at http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To stop this email, just click the link http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af24 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050303/85df88c1/attachment.html From philip at gladstonefamily.net Wed Mar 2 22:17:09 2005 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:17:12 2005 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 In-Reply-To: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> References: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <422681B5.6080101@gladstonefamily.net> This shows that there is a consistent error in the pressure readings. If you look at the graphs, you can see your pressure readings tracking the predicted pressure reading -- but with a significant offset. You may want to check your pressure calibration. Philip Christopher J. Fasciano wrote: > > > -- > Christopher J. Fasciano > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: Weather Quality > To: cjfasciano@comcast.net > Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( > 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) > 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* > 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) > 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) > 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* > 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( > 6.8) > 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* > 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) > 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) > 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) > 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) > 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) > 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* > 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* > 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* > 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( > 5.6) > 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 > 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 > *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) > > Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' > The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed > value is higher > than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have > to pick out > the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a > daily summary > and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation > during that > day. > > Graphs: > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 > > > For more information about quality checking, then visit > http://www.wxqa.com/ > To discuss, sign up to WXQC at > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > To stop this email, just click the link > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af24 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dshelms at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 22:41:22 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:41:27 2005 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 In-Reply-To: <422681B5.6080101@gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: Just lower your pressure (altimeter) by 2.0 mb (00.06 inches of mercury) It also appears your direction is frozen: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW2172!N.%20Huntingdon&last=120 Dave -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Philip Gladstone Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:17 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 This shows that there is a consistent error in the pressure readings. If you look at the graphs, you can see your pressure readings tracking the predicted pressure reading -- but with a significant offset. You may want to check your pressure calibration. Philip Christopher J. Fasciano wrote: > > > -- > Christopher J. Fasciano > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: Weather Quality > To: cjfasciano@comcast.net > Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( > 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) > 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* > 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) > 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) > 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* > 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( > 6.8) > 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* > 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) > 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) > 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) > 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) > 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) > 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* > 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* > 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* > 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( > 5.6) > 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 > 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 > *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) > > Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' > The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed > value is higher > than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have > to pick out > the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a > daily summary > and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation > during that > day. > > Graphs: > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 > > > For more information about quality checking, then visit > http://www.wxqa.com/ > To discuss, sign up to WXQC at > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > To stop this email, just click the link > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af 24 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From sam at wa4phy.net Fri Mar 11 16:55:19 2005 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Fri Mar 11 16:55:32 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Madis history list & QC Message-ID: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> From the looks of the history lists of data on the madis display page, it appears that on the altimeter, full QC is not done on every reading, but only stages 1 and 2. Every other entry under alt shows an S or V, with sometimes doubles of each. Is my assumption all wet, or is there a reason for the alternating QC indications? Also, wind direction usually shows up with either a C or a V. Same reason? Not to worry tho, as I see the same kind of QC applied to the local ASOS data from AGS and DNL. Looks like we're in for another blow this evening and tonight with gusts to 30kts already at AGS/DNL. Are we ever going to have a break from this persistant longwave trof and multiple SW's dropping down every other day ? It's nearly spring, but the trees and flowers don't know whether to bud out yet or not! -- Snowman From kansasphotos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 21:33:13 2005 From: kansasphotos at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Fri Mar 11 21:33:33 2005 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors Message-ID: <012c01c526ab$da2ccf40$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block right now regarding whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone clarify that for me. Thanks don -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050311/fb3e51a2/attachment.html From kansasphotos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 21:45:59 2005 From: kansasphotos at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Fri Mar 11 21:46:07 2005 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors Message-ID: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * 2/96 I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block right now regarding whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone clarify that for me. Thanks From philip at gladstonefamily.net Sat Mar 12 08:16:25 2005 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Sat Mar 12 08:16:34 2005 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors In-Reply-To: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> References: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Message-ID: <4232EBA9.1010508@gladstonefamily.net> Don As I understand it, the wind speed and direction are not quality checked as two sperate items. The QC check is performed on the North-south component of the wind vector, and on the East-West component. If their check fails, then the QC fails for both wind speed and direction. In your particular case, the email did not include the troublesome lines as I do a certain amount of filtering before sending out the email to eliminate single qc failures. This was due to issues with the QC process itself -- a phenomenon that I refer to as 'jaggies' You can sometimes see on the qc charts that the 'analysis' line has jaggies in it, and this generates bogus error readings. Philip Don Palmer wrote: > I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * > (KNT) > 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * > 2/96 > > I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental > block right now regarding > whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could > someone clarify that for > me. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > From Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov Mon Mar 14 13:32:03 2005 From: Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov (Michael F Barth) Date: Mon Mar 14 13:32:12 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Madis history list & QC In-Reply-To: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> References: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> Message-ID: Sam, Thanks for noticing this, as it turns out its a bug in the display software, as almost every last observation should have the full QC (particularly true for APRSWXNET and CWOP). Hopefully we'll get this fixed soon. The more eyes looking at the data the better! Thanks, Mike On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Sam Drinkard wrote: > From the looks of the history lists of data on the madis display page, it > appears that on the altimeter, full QC is not done on every reading, but only > stages 1 and 2. Every other entry under alt shows an S or V, with sometimes > doubles of each. Is my assumption all wet, or is there a reason for the > alternating QC indications? Also, wind direction usually shows up with > either a C or a V. Same reason? Not to worry tho, as I see the same kind of > QC applied to the local ASOS data from AGS and DNL. > > Looks like we're in for another blow this evening and tonight with gusts to > 30kts already at AGS/DNL. Are we ever going to have a break from this > persistant longwave trof and multiple SW's dropping down every other day ? > It's nearly spring, but the trees and flowers don't know whether to bud out > yet or not! > > -- > Snowman > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > From Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov Mon Mar 14 13:37:01 2005 From: Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov (Michael F Barth) Date: Mon Mar 14 13:37:05 2005 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors In-Reply-To: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> References: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Message-ID: Don, The QC is actually done on the U and V components of the wind. The errors are then translated back to direction and speed, and if either U or V fails the QC, both dir and speed are marked as failed. Thanks, Mike On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Don Palmer wrote: > I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * 2/96 > > I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block > right now regarding > whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone > clarify that for > me. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > From tigman at cableone.net Fri Mar 18 21:57:55 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Fri Mar 18 21:58:00 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Message-ID: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/5d225b41/attachment.html From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 22:16:51 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Fri Mar 18 22:17:02 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Hi Steve, What operating system do you have? What price range are you considering? What functions are you interested in? Dave -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/597a2a9b/attachment.html From wolfstalks at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 22:21:06 2005 From: wolfstalks at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri Mar 18 22:21:11 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: References: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Hello Steve, I would really recommend visiting the two major (in my opinion) software support foroums. Virtual Weather Station: http://users.boardnation.com/~ambient/index.php Weather Display http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php Ask other users of the same station for their input and recommendations, heck someone may suggest something other then the two I mentioned above... The best of luck, Bob On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:51 -0500, Sandy and David Helms wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > What operating system do you have? > > What price range are you considering? > > What functions are you interested in? > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / > N7DPX > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM > To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? > > > Hello, > I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station > software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? > Thanks for any coments in advance. > > Steve / N7DPX > Lakeside,Az. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net A WolfStalks Network Property http://WolfStalks.com From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 22:41:27 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Fri Mar 18 22:41:34 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, You might try checking out Gary Oldham's page: http://www.ag-weather.com/ Gary reviews software supporting the Davis Vantage Pro; these software generally also support the WMR-968 station. You can see which applications support both stations on the http://cwop.info page. Dave CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/2276e473/attachment.html From doncline at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 23:41:02 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Fri Mar 18 23:41:14 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, I have a WMR968, which I really like, running the Virtual Weather Station software. It takes a bit of reading, but there are many software features in the program that allow you to tweak the output of the weather station. I also have WX Flash which allows you to create a cool web page with various icons which I really like too. I have it running at www.p80.org/weather If you haven't already figured it out, the manual provided with the WMR-968 is pretty much worthless. There is, however, a nicely presented version (36 pages) made for the Radio Shack branded WMR-968. If you haven't seen it, email me for a copy. Good luck, Don Cline www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/0cbcea3b/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 01:27:53 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 01:27:54 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <008b01c5164c$12cdcd10$37395c45@XP> Hi Don, I would like some more info on that (36page)manual from Radio Shack.You are totally right about the manual that came with my Wx station.I think my station is giving me some false readings and would like to find out how to calibrate it via software or what ever means? I tried to go tho the link to your Wx flash page and it would not show me anything except A small box in the upper left with a red X in the center.I haven't figured that problem out as yet. Anyway thanks for your time on the above matters. Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You need to have Macromedia Flash to see the page I mentioned, It takes a few seconds to load but on cable or dsl you should be in good shape. Don (W7FAA) www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:27 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hi Don, I would like some more info on that (36page)manual from Radio Shack.You are totally right about the manual that came with my Wx station.I think my station is giving me some false readings and would like to find out how to calibrate it via software or what ever means? I tried to go tho the link to your Wx flash page and it would not show me anything except A small box in the upper left with a red X in the center.I haven't figured that problem out as yet. Anyway thanks for your time on the above matters. Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/df26a6b4/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 01:45:25 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 01:45:26 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <00c101c5164e$84289740$37395c45@XP> HI Don, I thought that might be the problem?I have tried to get the Macromedia Flash several times but for some reason my machine won't let it download.I am not sure waht that problem is at this point? I am runnig a 2.9 gig P4 with cable 3.0Meg and 512 meg of ram.Thanks for the PDF file also.I think that something in my machine is not is not letting me get the Flash Player for some reason. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/a9f81af0/attachment.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 01:50:43 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Sat Mar 19 01:50:58 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <00c101c5164e$84289740$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, Just sent the .PDF in a separate email. You should have it soon. Here is the link to get the latest Flash player http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer Don Cline W7FAA www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:45 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? HI Don, I thought that might be the problem?I have tried to get the Macromedia Flash several times but for some reason my machine won't let it download.I am not sure waht that problem is at this point? I am runnig a 2.9 gig P4 with cable 3.0Meg and 512 meg of ram.Thanks for the PDF file also.I think that something in my machine is not is not letting me get the Flash Player for some reason. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/206428c8/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 02:21:50 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 02:21:51 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <001001c51653$8662dd90$f72d7718@XP> Don, Got the PDF just fine TNX.I am going to try to download the FLash Player at this time.Thanks for the link to it also.............. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/1f480dd8/attachment.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 02:25:06 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Sat Mar 19 02:25:14 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <001001c51653$8662dd90$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: Good, glad you received it o.k. It really is a useful guide to installing your station. Let me know how the Flash installation works. Don www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:21 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Don, Got the PDF just fine TNX.I am going to try to download the FLash Player at this time.Thanks for the link to it also.............. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/e5bedc34/attachment-0001.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 03:54:15 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 03:54:17 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <005601c51660$8417c930$f72d7718@XP> Hi Don, Well the manual has already helped me on some of my settings.Thanks a bunch!!! Still no luck with the Flash Player? It says its in my IE6 plugin file but still can't get to your site.Getting pretty tired here so I will try again in the morning(later morning)Thanks for all of your help Don. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/cffafb18/attachment.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 03:59:36 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Sat Mar 19 03:59:56 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <005601c51660$8417c930$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: Steve, You're welcome. Maybe we can fix that Flash problem tomorrow. Don W7FAA www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:54 AM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hi Don, Well the manual has already helped me on some of my settings.Thanks a bunch!!! Still no luck with the Flash Player? It says its in my IE6 plugin file but still can't get to your site.Getting pretty tired here so I will try again in the morning(later morning)Thanks for all of your help Don. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/8c7e089c/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 14:17:42 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 14:17:43 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <000c01c516b7$be7d0de0$f72d7718@XP> Hi Don, Well I finally got the flash player problem taken care of! I just went to a differant browser(Netscape)Never used it before but I am now able to view your WX station.Looks real nice Don !!I still haven't decided on which wx software to purchase?I am trying the virtual wx station from Ambient. I found out from the PDF you sent me that my outdoor hydro sensor is in a bad palce,so when the wx here gets alittle nicer I need to move it from where it is(direct sunlight and in the rain or snow)so like I said the pdf was very helpful so far.I still can't seem to get my indoor sensor to read the proper barometer reading.So I am going to work on that today. Its been trying to snow here all morning.We are supposed to get around 3-6 inches here at 7200 ft. by tommorow night.My wife is taking me to Vegas for our 32nd.so let it snow!!! We are leaving on Monday and will be there for three days.Might not want to come back HI!!Anyway thaanks again for your help Don.ANd like I said I am able to veiw your wx page now!!! Do you have any Echolink nodes near you Don?I have a node on 146.54 sim. here.And the node # is 1259 if you have one near you you can connect to me direct or if there is one by you I can do the same.Just a thought............ Best 73's Don tnx agn Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/b07dd3a0/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 14:24:32 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 14:24:33 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <002301c516b8$b2ac0a60$f72d7718@XP> Don, I forgot to ask you if you know Joe K7JAL he is a friend of my in Washington.He was with the FAA for along time I wander if you guys ever crossed paths? Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/df3cf4c1/attachment.html From dshelms at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 14:46:25 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Sat Mar 19 14:46:32 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <002301c516b8$b2ac0a60$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: Great you got the technical details straighten out. If you not discussing weather station QC issues, you should send email point to point instead of through the list. For instance, now 400 people know you are going on vacation. That really should be need to know only distribution for sure. FYI: We have developed a CWOP "Weather Station Siting, Performance, and Data Quality Guide" to provide people assistance on siting of their sensors and operation of their weather stations. Here's the link to the guide: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dshelms/CWOP_Guide.pdf (2.2 mb and 88 pages) I have noticed very creative instructions for sensor siting from both software and weather station vendors. Follow these instructions with caution as they will not always yield optimal results. If possible, please follow the CWOP Guide's instructions as these have been validated by professional meteorologists. Dave CW0351 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/58a4b25f/attachment.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 15:32:39 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat Mar 19 15:32:40 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <003701c516c2$3261e4b0$f72d7718@XP> Thanks Dave for the heads up.And for the other info you sent as well.Ok on the point to point also,Sorry bout that!! Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/b15f8210/attachment.html From aledoweather at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 19 16:17:10 2005 From: aledoweather at frontiernet.net (aledoweather@frontiernet.net) Date: Sat Mar 19 16:19:23 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003701c516c2$3261e4b0$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:33 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Thanks Dave for the heads up.And for the other info you sent as well.Ok on the point to point also,Sorry bout that!! Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know about how much I should adjust my station elevation setting to correct for this error. I am in feet above sea level. There are other errors, all well placed within the target range but seems to me that the elevation should be easy to correct with knowledge of the right factor or formula also, what is the source of the standard altitude. Because I am 21.6 miles to the next closest sample site I am not to concerned about temp and wind numbers as shown on the graph distribution. Al Huggard CW3525. From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 16:13:31 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (dshelms@comcast.net) Date: Fri Mar 25 16:13:34 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude Message-ID: <032520052113.28347.42447EFB000269BF00006EBB22007623029C03040A089C0B@comcast.net> Al, I find the elevation for your position to be: 300.2 meters, 985 feet http://www.acme.com/mapper/?lat=38.58250&long=-95.38033&scale=10&theme=Topo&width=3&height=2&dot=Yes ... this differs from your elevation in the CWOP database, 279.4 meters, 917 feet. Which elevation is correct? Once you set your correction, you should calibrate the pressure using a know calibration source. As you noted, you are about 2 millibars (00.06 inches of mercury) too low the analysis. Here's a comparison with the larger airports which confirms the 2 mb difference: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050325&site=C3525&addnl=KFOE&addnl=KTOP&Add+to+charts=Add+to+charts&.cgifields=addnl So, simply increase the pressure measurement by 2 millibars (00.06inches). Thanks, Dave CW0351 -------------- Original message -------------- > On my first error report I seem to be +2.00 MB off on my altitude. Does > anyone know about how much I should adjust my station elevation setting to > correct for this error. I am in feet above sea level. There are other > errors, all well placed within the target range but seems to me that the > elevation should be easy to correct with knowledge of the right factor or > formula also, what is the source of the standard altitude. > > Because I am 21.6 miles to the next closest sample site I am not to > concerned about temp and wind numbers as shown on the graph distribution. > > Al Huggard > CW3525. > > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050325/0f1a8634/attachment.html From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 23:41:04 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Fri Mar 25 23:41:14 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude (SPAM Blockers) In-Reply-To: <001201c5317b$e0be8d50$5cd2f446@al07ti2sxm71qt> Message-ID: Al... tried to respond to your personal email address but got blocked. You might try adding my email to your "allow" list on your SPAM blocker (dshelms @ comcast.net) -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Al Huggard Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:48 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Altitude On my first error report I seem to be +2.00 MB off on my altitude. Does anyone know about how much I should adjust my station elevation setting to correct for this error. I am in feet above sea level. There are other errors, all well placed within the target range but seems to me that the elevation should be easy to correct with knowledge of the right factor or formula also, what is the source of the standard altitude. Because I am 21.6 miles to the next closest sample site I am not to concerned about temp and wind numbers as shown on the graph distribution. Al Huggard CW3525. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dmmk at mfi.net Sat Mar 26 07:30:34 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Sat Mar 26 07:30:48 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error Message-ID: <000701c531ff$9dd17aa0$39cc7d41@trutoneho90y33> Since I joined CWOP I have always been on the error list for my pressure data. I have never figured out why untill today. For whatever reason when my Weatherlink software sends the data, its not sending the correct data. For example at the last update the reading on my sensor was 1014.2 MB. What showed up on my CWOP site was 1016.7 MB. The temperature, dew point, and wind data are all right on. Just the pressure reading is off. My long-lat is correct as is my elevation. To see for yourself, this link is to my station's data on the web. http://users.mfi.net/dck/History_Monitor.htm This is the link to my CWOP site. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw1118&last=24 Both sites update at 15 minute intervals so the data is exactly the same. You guys have any idea's? Dave. From dshelms at comcast.net Sat Mar 26 08:22:44 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Sat Mar 26 08:22:54 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error... do adjustments from the console In-Reply-To: <000701c531ff$9dd17aa0$39cc7d41@trutoneho90y33> Message-ID: Dave, When Davis first started supporting CWOP (v5.4?), they did not include the WeatherLink software user correction deltas (e.g. software off-sets) to the APRS message sent to CWOP. After 5.5.1 however, Davis did start including the user input data corrections made within the WeatherLink software so adjustments to pressure made within WeatherLink would be included in the APRS message. I suggest doing the pressure adjustments from the console so you don't have to rely in the software at all (I do this for my Peet Ultimeter 2100 and don't touch the WeatherDisplay software adjustments menu for any parameter except my wind direction off-set cuz I don't feel like going up on the roof right now). >From the Davis Vantage Pro User's Manual: http://www.davisnet.com/product_documents/weather/manuals/VP_Console.pdf Calibrating Barometric Pressure Note: Before calibrating the barometric pressure, be sure the station is set to the correct elevation. 1. Press BAR to select barometric pressure. 2. Press and release 2ND, then press and hold SET. The pressure variable will blink. 3. Continue holding the key until the ticker reads ?set barometer...?. 4. Press < or > to select digits in the variable. 5. Press + and - to add to or subtract from the digit?s value. 6. When you are finished, press DONE to exit calibration. Hope this helps, DaveH CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 7:31 AM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error Since I joined CWOP I have always been on the error list for my pressure data. I have never figured out why untill today. For whatever reason when my Weatherlink software sends the data, its not sending the correct data. For example at the last update the reading on my sensor was 1014.2 MB. What showed up on my CWOP site was 1016.7 MB. The temperature, dew point, and wind data are all right on. Just the pressure reading is off. My long-lat is correct as is my elevation. To see for yourself, this link is to my station's data on the web. http://users.mfi.net/dck/History_Monitor.htm This is the link to my CWOP site. http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=cw1118&last=24 Both sites update at 15 minute intervals so the data is exactly the same. You guys have any idea's? Dave. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dmmk at mfi.net Sat Mar 26 11:57:32 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Sat Mar 26 11:57:44 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error... do adjustments from the console References: Message-ID: <000c01c53224$e835d260$23cc7d41@trutoneho90y33> Dave, I am using Weatherlink 5.4 with a Weather Monitor II. I'm not sure I understand what your saying in reguard to adjusting the presure on the console. That can be done on the WMII but then my presure reading will be wrong. Would changing to 5.5.1 solve the problem? A little confused here in stormy Florida. Dave. From dshelms at comcast.net Sat Mar 26 12:12:11 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Sat Mar 26 12:12:37 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error... do adjustments from the console In-Reply-To: <000c01c53224$e835d260$23cc7d41@trutoneho90y33> Message-ID: Yes, upgrade to 5.5.1! Here's the link to the Davis software download page: http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/software.asp Dave CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:58 AM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Barometer error... do adjustments from the console Dave, I am using Weatherlink 5.4 with a Weather Monitor II. I'm not sure I understand what your saying in reguard to adjusting the presure on the console. That can be done on the WMII but then my presure reading will be wrong. Would changing to 5.5.1 solve the problem? A little confused here in stormy Florida. Dave. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From pat at sklenar.info Sat Mar 26 13:51:46 2005 From: pat at sklenar.info (Patrick R. Sklenar) Date: Sat Mar 26 13:51:51 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude In-Reply-To: <032520052113.28347.42447EFB000269BF00006EBB22007623029C03040A089C0B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2005326135146.219544@GrumpyPC> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:13:31 +0000, dshelms@comcast.net wrote: >?Which elevation is correct? What is the best way to tell? USGS topo map or WAAS enabled GPS? Thanks, pat---- From dmmk at mfi.net Sat Mar 26 16:36:12 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Sat Mar 26 16:37:51 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude References: <2005326135146.219544@GrumpyPC> Message-ID: <002e01c5324b$da3883c0$5dcb7d41@trutoneho90y33> Just my opinion but I would have to say the USGS topo maps would be the way to go. From dshelms at comcast.net Sat Mar 26 16:42:20 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Sat Mar 26 16:42:20 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude In-Reply-To: <002e01c5324b$da3883c0$5dcb7d41@trutoneho90y33> Message-ID: GPS good for position, USGS Topo good for elevation (if you can read a contour map and decide if you are looking at meters or feet contours). -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:36 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Altitude Just my opinion but I would have to say the USGS topo maps would be the way to go. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dmmk at mfi.net Sat Mar 26 16:30:38 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Sat Mar 26 17:08:57 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Barometer error... do adjustments from the console References: Message-ID: <000c01c5324b$1077cd70$5dcb7d41@trutoneho90y33> Dave, version 5.5.1 worked. Presure reading updating fine now. If you haven't already you may want to let the rest of the CWOP members know about the bug in 5.4. Thank you for your help. Dave. From trkester1 at comcast.net Sun Mar 27 23:41:48 2005 From: trkester1 at comcast.net (Terry Kester (comcast)) Date: Sun Mar 27 23:41:55 2005 Subject: [wxqc] RE: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-23 Message-ID: <00ac01c53350$7453dae0$6a0019ac@trkdell> Sorry, sent this from the wrong email address the first time around. Moderator, please ignore my previous. Hi, I started submitting my station info to CWOP a couple months ago and signed up for the quality reports. (Which pointed out that I needed fan aspiration during the day. :-) ) I have one now. Big difference. I have a few questions though. 1 - I don't see the graphs for wind. Are they missing for my qc reports or is wind not graphed? 2 - I'm not 100% sure I understand the reports. Sample below. What does the 0/94 or 1/94 mean? 3 - Again looking at the sample below, how do I know where the errors occurred? I don't see anything in the UTC column and I'm not sure what the thresholds are for an error to be "an error". 4 - Dew point is a calculated value, correct? So if my dew point is off but my temp and humidity are ok, how does that work? Is my station SW miscalculating? When I look at http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqual.pl?site=c2931, I'm guessing my quality is relatively ok. Presumably that's what it means if I'm inside the red box. Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere else that I haven't found on the website. Stats have never been my strong area. Thanks, Terry Kester -----Original Message----- From: Weather Quality [mailto:weather-qc@nospam.gladstonefamily.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:07 PM To: terry@terry-patty.com Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-23 DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) 23-MAR-2005 Errs CW2931 * 0/94 * 0/94 * 0/94 * 1/94 * 1/94 23-MAR-2005 Smry CW2931 *0.72(0.28)*-0.5(0.77)*-0.3(1.01)*10.2(22.5)*5.56(1.72) Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value is higher than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to pick out the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a daily summary and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation during that day. Graphs: http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050324&site=C2 931 For more information about quality checking, then visit http://www.wxqa.com/ To discuss, sign up to WXQC at http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To stop this email, just click the link http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=a3a20 33b4f From dshelms at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 00:22:52 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Mon Mar 28 00:22:52 2005 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Barometer reading Message-ID: Attempt to send directly to Al Ott failed due to a spame blocker, error message follows: Permanent Failure: 550_:_Sender_address_rejected:_Blocked Delivery last attempted at Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:18:22 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Sandy and David Helms [mailto:dshelms@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 12:18 AM To: Philip Gladstone; Al Huggard; Dave Helms Subject: RE: Barometer reading Al: The WeatherUnderground plug-in is out there, I don't where exactly, but it is necessary for WeatherLink 5.5.1. As I posted two days ago, 5.5.1 will accept your calibration adjustments and add them to the APRS message. If that does not work (it should), try this procedure - >From the Davis Vantage Pro User's Manual: http://www.davisnet.com/product_documents/weather/manuals/VP_Console.pdf Calibrating Barometric Pressure Note: Before calibrating the barometric pressure, be sure the station is set to the correct elevation. 1. Press BAR to select barometric pressure. 2. Press and release 2ND, then press and hold SET. The pressure variable will blink. 3. Continue holding the key until the ticker reads "set barometer...". 4. Press < or > to select digits in the variable. 5. Press + and - to add to or subtract from the digit's value. 6. When you are finished, press DONE to exit calibration. DaveH CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: Philip Gladstone [mailto:philip@gladstonefamily.net] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:39 PM To: Al Huggard; Dave Helms Subject: Re: Barometer reading Al, I must confess that I don't know -- as I've never used the Davis software. However, I'm copying Dave on this message, and I think that he knows a great deal more about it. Finding the sea level pressure is fairly easy -- call your local airport duirng a time of little wind when the pressure is high. Provided that the airport is not too far away, you can assume that your reading will be the same. Philip Al Huggard wrote: > Phil, I am getting your emails I think. Don't know why you were blocked. I > am using Davis 5.5 tried 5.5. > 1 but that didn't have the record file for underground weather. Any how , I > adjusted my elevation but I read in the help notes that this doesn't adjust > the barometer. I can only set the sea level pressure and the soft ware or > firmware adjust the pressure. How do I find the sea level pressure at my > location. I appears that even if I had a good standard barometer here, I > couldn't set the pressure. > > Al > > > > From dmmk at mfi.net Mon Mar 28 10:57:17 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Mon Mar 28 10:58:52 2005 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Barometer reading References: Message-ID: <000d01c533ae$d293b9f0$43cc7d41@trutoneho90y33> Al, here is the location for the Weatherunderground expansion module from Davis. http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WUndergroundModule-Readme.html From hd87xl at charter.net Mon Mar 28 18:44:54 2005 From: hd87xl at charter.net (Jeff Cox) Date: Mon Mar 28 18:44:47 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data Message-ID: <001301c533f0$257f8950$7c6b7444@JC> My question is how come my rain data is not displayed at Meso West web-site? I have had the settings set to upload only APRS records. I am going to try uploading current day rain, rain rate, storm rate but do not believe this to be correct. Is the reason rain data is not being recorded because the tipping rain bucket is not NWS approved device? Any input is appreciated. Jeff (CW3303) hd87xl@charter.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050328/ae653fa0/attachment.html From dshelms at comcast.net Mon Mar 28 23:38:53 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Mon Mar 28 23:39:08 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data In-Reply-To: <001301c533f0$257f8950$7c6b7444@JC> Message-ID: Hi Jeff, Most precip data gathered by CWOP members is from tipping bucket gauges. NWS uses tipping bucket technology from many different sources all the time, so this is not an issue. You do see CWOP precip measurements on the NOAA MADIS station plot. Mesowest is run by the folks at the Cooperative Institute for Regional Prediction (CIRP) at University of Utah which works with NOAA and other federal, state, and local governments. I think they haven't had time to do the work to add the precip just yet. I encourage you to get a 4" diameter manual rain gauge to help monitor your automated rain gauge performance. Dave CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Jeff Cox Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:45 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data My question is how come my rain data is not displayed at Meso West web-site? I have had the settings set to upload only APRS records. I am going to try uploading current day rain, rain rate, storm rate but do not believe this to be correct. Is the reason rain data is not being recorded because the tipping rain bucket is not NWS approved device? Any input is appreciated. Jeff (CW3303) hd87xl@charter.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050328/06a020fd/attachment.html From hugal at ott.net Tue Mar 29 16:30:43 2005 From: hugal at ott.net (Al Huggard) Date: Tue Mar 29 16:30:11 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 Message-ID: <001b01c534a6$93c824b0$5cd2f446@al07ti2sxm71qt> Those of us using Davis version 5.5.1 and belonging to the weather underground must down load an add-on from the /weather underground at the following site. http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp Davis made a company decision not to include the weather underground in the supplied formats. This is FYI for all Davis software users. From albert.arnold at ps.ge.com Tue Mar 29 16:33:56 2005 From: albert.arnold at ps.ge.com (Arnold, Albert (GE Energy)) Date: Tue Mar 29 16:46:38 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 Message-ID: <25A89C8BA42DD3118A220008C7916E2B16BC48CD@nyschx11psge.sch.ge.com> That is true, but I loaded version 5.5.1 and the data that was in the folder prior to the upload stayed, therefore, the Weather Underground data was still intact. I did not have to download the add on. Albert -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Al Huggard Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:31 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 Those of us using Davis version 5.5.1 and belonging to the weather underground must down load an add-on from the /weather underground at the following site. http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp Davis made a company decision not to include the weather underground in the supplied formats. This is FYI for all Davis software users. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dmmk at mfi.net Tue Mar 29 17:23:22 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Tue Mar 29 17:56:25 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 References: <25A89C8BA42DD3118A220008C7916E2B16BC48CD@nyschx11psge.sch.ge.com> Message-ID: <000a01c534ad$eb8314b0$4acb7d41@trutoneho90y33> Albert, are you sure? I just downloaded 5.5.1 and I had to get the expansion module. 5.5.1. while basically the same is a separate version. I had to import all the data from 5.4 and reconfigure all the internet settings. From kansasphotos at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 13:18:57 2005 From: kansasphotos at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Wed Mar 30 13:18:49 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data References: Message-ID: <002501c53554$f2251a50$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Dave - Have you got a location or a recommended outfit that handles those 4 inch manual gauges that are referenced below. Thanks don (CW2327) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy and David Helms To: Discussion of data quality issues Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: RE: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data Hi Jeff, Most precip data gathered by CWOP members is from tipping bucket gauges. NWS uses tipping bucket technology from many different sources all the time, so this is not an issue. You do see CWOP precip measurements on the NOAA MADIS station plot. Mesowest is run by the folks at the Cooperative Institute for Regional Prediction (CIRP) at University of Utah which works with NOAA and other federal, state, and local governments. I think they haven't had time to do the work to add the precip just yet. I encourage you to get a 4" diameter manual rain gauge to help monitor your automated rain gauge performance. Dave CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Jeff Cox Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:45 PM To: wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data My question is how come my rain data is not displayed at Meso West web-site? I have had the settings set to upload only APRS records. I am going to try uploading current day rain, rain rate, storm rate but do not believe this to be correct. Is the reason rain data is not being recorded because the tipping rain bucket is not NWS approved device? Any input is appreciated. Jeff (CW3303) hd87xl@charter.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050330/636d89ea/attachment.html From sam at wa4phy.net Wed Mar 30 13:33:51 2005 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Wed Mar 30 13:33:56 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data In-Reply-To: <002501c53554$f2251a50$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> References: <002501c53554$f2251a50$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Message-ID: <424AF10F.2090201@wa4phy.net> Don and possibly others, I have been using a 4" gauge I purchased from a company in Fergus Falls, MN for about 12 years or more. They were first introduced by TWC as part of their "seasonal solutions" stuff.. anyhow, I've since ordered two direct from the company. The gauges are clear plastic with a 1" inner tube and the 4" outer tube. About the only thing I dislike about them is over a period of time, the sun's UV will attack the plastic and make it craze, but it does not affect the thing except from an appearance standpoint. The company does not accept credit cards or debit cards; I always just send them a personal check and they send the product back. The full address of the company is: Productive Alternatives 1205 North Tower Road Fergus Falls, MN 56537 (218) 736-5668 The price for the gauge and mounting plate plus shipping to GA is $31.95. YMMV on shipping. I'd suggest calling first to make sure there has not been any price increases or shipping increases (what has not gone up?) -- Snowman From Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov Wed Mar 30 14:54:17 2005 From: Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov (Russ Chadwick) Date: Wed Mar 30 14:54:21 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data Message-ID: I just called Productive Alternatives and this is the only rain gauge they carry and it is $26.95 + $8.00 Shipping and Handling for a total of $34.95 payable by check through the mail. They don't have a web page. Russ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Sam Drinkard Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:34 AM To: Don Palmer; Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data Don and possibly others, I have been using a 4" gauge I purchased from a company in Fergus Falls, MN for about 12 years or more. They were first introduced by TWC as part of their "seasonal solutions" stuff.. anyhow, I've since ordered two direct from the company. The gauges are clear plastic with a 1" inner tube and the 4" outer tube. About the only thing I dislike about them is over a period of time, the sun's UV will attack the plastic and make it craze, but it does not affect the thing except from an appearance standpoint. The company does not accept credit cards or debit cards; I always just send them a personal check and they send the product back. The full address of the company is: Productive Alternatives 1205 North Tower Road Fergus Falls, MN 56537 (218) 736-5668 The price for the gauge and mounting plate plus shipping to GA is $31.95. YMMV on shipping. I'd suggest calling first to make sure there has not been any price increases or shipping increases (what has not gone up?) -- Snowman _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dshelms at comcast.net Wed Mar 30 21:15:53 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Wed Mar 30 21:16:04 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here are some other 4" gauge vendors: NovaLynx, part 260-2531 4-Inch Plastic Rain Gauge: $35 http://www.novalynx.com/260-2530-2531.html American Weather Enterprises: $37.50 http://www.americanweather.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=69 "OnlineStore" All Weather Rain Gauge, part RG-200: $27.95 http://raingauge.net/ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Russ Chadwick Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:54 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: RE: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data I just called Productive Alternatives and this is the only rain gauge they carry and it is $26.95 + $8.00 Shipping and Handling for a total of $34.95 payable by check through the mail. They don't have a web page. Russ -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Sam Drinkard Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:34 AM To: Don Palmer; Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Davis Instruments rain bucket & Meso West data Don and possibly others, I have been using a 4" gauge I purchased from a company in Fergus Falls, MN for about 12 years or more. They were first introduced by TWC as part of their "seasonal solutions" stuff.. anyhow, I've since ordered two direct from the company. The gauges are clear plastic with a 1" inner tube and the 4" outer tube. About the only thing I dislike about them is over a period of time, the sun's UV will attack the plastic and make it craze, but it does not affect the thing except from an appearance standpoint. The company does not accept credit cards or debit cards; I always just send them a personal check and they send the product back. The full address of the company is: Productive Alternatives 1205 North Tower Road Fergus Falls, MN 56537 (218) 736-5668 The price for the gauge and mounting plate plus shipping to GA is $31.95. YMMV on shipping. I'd suggest calling first to make sure there has not been any price increases or shipping increases (what has not gone up?) -- Snowman _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From albert.arnold at ps.ge.com Thu Mar 31 07:37:49 2005 From: albert.arnold at ps.ge.com (Arnold, Albert (GE Energy)) Date: Thu Mar 31 09:47:20 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 Message-ID: <25A89C8BA42DD3118A220008C7916E2B16C417C9@nyschx11psge.sch.ge.com> Dave, I am running 5.5.1 and when I did the upgrade from 5.4, the subfolder that the weather information for my site stayed the same, in the internet configuration, it was there and I still continue to transmit, I didn't have to reconfigure or get the expansion module to transmit to weather underground. Al -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:23 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Undergrond weather for Davis Inst. Versionv5.5.1 Albert, are you sure? I just downloaded 5.5.1 and I had to get the expansion module. 5.5.1. while basically the same is a separate version. I had to import all the data from 5.4 and reconfigure all the internet settings. _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From hugal at ott.net Thu Mar 31 13:54:44 2005 From: hugal at ott.net (Al Huggard) Date: Thu Mar 31 13:54:36 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Ver 5.5.1 General discusson of some problems Message-ID: <000901c53623$1e9f2a70$46d2f446@al07ti2sxm71qt> I installed Davis ver 5.5.1 from ver 5.5.0 and have had some problems. First, Weather underground was not available in the upload file selection. Davis support said it was a corporate decision not to include it in the new vision but there was a free download module to add it. I did so and weather under ground stopped displaying my station. I have asked why but no response yet. Second, and more critical, after starting ver 5.5.1, I started getting and error warning from the QC report indication that my location was being sent in rounded decimal format rather the dec/min/sec, which I believe ver 5.5..0 was sending the APRS. I checked the QC reports back before I went to 5.5.1 and had no warning. I have contacted Davis support and suggested that they may have changed the location format on the latest release. No answer yet. I have gone back to Ver 5.5.0 until I get resolution. Any one else seen these troubles? Al, CW3525 From dmmk at mfi.net Thu Mar 31 16:22:08 2005 From: dmmk at mfi.net (Dave) Date: Thu Mar 31 16:22:21 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Davis Ver 5.5.1 General discusson of some problems References: <000901c53623$1e9f2a70$46d2f446@al07ti2sxm71qt> Message-ID: <000401c53637$b5d40780$4ecb7d41@trutoneho90y33> Al I downloaded 5.5.1 and had no problems. As for Weather Underground and APRS go back into version 5.5 and copy the upload profiles exactly as they are into 5.5.1 I'm guessing when you reconfigured those two profiles you inadvertently put the wrong info in there. 5.5.1 works fine. I have been using it about a week with no problems. From sam at wa4phy.net Thu Mar 31 21:44:20 2005 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Thu Mar 31 21:44:29 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Alt abberations Message-ID: <424CB584.6000607@wa4phy.net> I know it's not unusual to see an ocassional error in the alt department, but I got to thinking.. what happens if the surrounding stations altimeter readings are all off the mark by some sigificant amount, and yours happens to be within the std. deviation? Does that cause your data to show up as in error? Not sure I worded that exactly how it sounds, but can't think of a better explaination. Essentially, I look at my long term alt readings and they are very close to the 0/0 line as compared to the rest of the station QC'd, yet this evening, I show up with 3 errors out of the 96, and looking at the graph, I do see some abberations during the time we had some thunderstorms move thru the area right around noon, but the other one looks like about 2130 todays date (03/31) with no significant wx event occuring. One other point I meant to ask about (Dave/Sandy) is looking at KAGS and KDNL both showing the same altimeter, when AGS is at elev. 148' and DNL is at 400'+ . Of course, both are ASOS, but should they not be slightly different? I've noticed this consistantly now for at least a month or more. -- Snowman From bweybrecht at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 31 22:22:56 2005 From: bweybrecht at bellsouth.net (Bob) Date: Thu Mar 31 22:23:07 2005 Subject: [wxqc] Fog, Dew Point, and RH Message-ID: <000d01c5366a$19135da0$0a02a8c0@wsr88d> If we are in a heavy fog, am I incorrect in believing that the RH is 100%? As I look at my QC data for Today, I note that I am supposedly in error from 05:00 - 10:00 for reporting a dew point pretty close to ambient temperature - ie; 100% humidity. During that time period, the entire area, including the weather service was under an extremely dense fog. http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050401 &site=C3321 And the surrounding stations are reporting similar data.... http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/obhistory/KILM.html http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/obhistory/KLBT.html http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/obhistory/KFAY.html I have three temperature sensors, and a Honeywell HIH 3610 humidity sensor in a fan aspirated tube with an intake 5 feet off the grass. The temperature sensors all read within .2 degrees F, and previously been verified accurate accurate within .3 degrees F at 32 F, and 212 F, I'm not likely to be reporting incorrect temperature. The Honeywell humidity sensor has a claimed accuracy of 2% Rh. SO..... If we are experiencing "can't see two feet in front of you" fog, should I not be reporting ambient temp = RH? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DaveH CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces@lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Sam Drinkard Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:44 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: [wxqc] Alt abberations I know it's not unusual to see an ocassional error in the alt department, but I got to thinking.. what happens if the surrounding stations altimeter readings are all off the mark by some sigificant amount, and yours happens to be within the std. deviation? Does that cause your data to show up as in error? Not sure I worded that exactly how it sounds, but can't think of a better explaination. Essentially, I look at my long term alt readings and they are very close to the 0/0 line as compared to the rest of the station QC'd, yet this evening, I show up with 3 errors out of the 96, and looking at the graph, I do see some abberations during the time we had some thunderstorms move thru the area right around noon, but the other one looks like about 2130 todays date (03/31) with no significant wx event occuring. One other point I meant to ask about (Dave/Sandy) is looking at KAGS and KDNL both showing the same altimeter, when AGS is at elev. 148' and DNL is at 400'+ . Of course, both are ASOS, but should they not be slightly different? I've noticed this consistantly now for at least a month or more. -- Snowman _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc@lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From cjfasciano at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 22:06:14 2005 From: cjfasciano at comcast.net (Christopher J. Fasciano) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 03:06:14 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 Message-ID: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> -- Christopher J. Fasciano -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: Weather Quality To: cjfasciano at comcast.net Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( 6.8) 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( 5.6) 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value is higher than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to pick out the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a daily summary and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation during that day. Graphs: http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 For more information about quality checking, then visit http://www.wxqa.com/ To discuss, sign up to WXQC at http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc To stop this email, just click the link http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af24 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050303/85df88c1/attachment-0002.html From philip at gladstonefamily.net Wed Mar 2 22:17:09 2005 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:17:09 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 In-Reply-To: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> References: <030320050306.3819.42267F260002F84900000EEB220075033001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <422681B5.6080101@gladstonefamily.net> This shows that there is a consistent error in the pressure readings. If you look at the graphs, you can see your pressure readings tracking the predicted pressure reading -- but with a significant offset. You may want to check your pressure calibration. Philip Christopher J. Fasciano wrote: > > > -- > Christopher J. Fasciano > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: Weather Quality > To: cjfasciano at comcast.net > Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( > 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) > 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* > 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) > 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) > 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* > 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( > 6.8) > 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* > 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) > 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) > 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) > 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) > 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) > 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* > 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* > 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* > 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( > 5.6) > 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 > 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 > *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) > > Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' > The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed > value is higher > than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have > to pick out > the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a > daily summary > and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation > during that > day. > > Graphs: > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 > > > For more information about quality checking, then visit > http://www.wxqa.com/ > To discuss, sign up to WXQC at > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > To stop this email, just click the link > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af24 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From dshelms at comcast.net Wed Mar 2 22:41:22 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:41:22 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 In-Reply-To: <422681B5.6080101@gladstonefamily.net> Message-ID: Just lower your pressure (altimeter) by 2.0 mb (00.06 inches of mercury) It also appears your direction is frozen: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW2172!N.%20Huntingdon&last=120 Dave -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Philip Gladstone Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:17 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] FW: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 This shows that there is a consistent error in the pressure readings. If you look at the graphs, you can see your pressure readings tracking the predicted pressure reading -- but with a significant offset. You may want to check your pressure calibration. Philip Christopher J. Fasciano wrote: > > > -- > Christopher J. Fasciano > > > -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- > From: Weather Quality > To: cjfasciano at comcast.net > Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-03-02 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 02:30:43 +0000 > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 02-MAR-2005 1020 CW2172 *1010.(-2.3)* 21(-1.3)*15.5( > 1.9)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1035 CW2172 *1010.(-2.6)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1050 CW2172 *1011.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.3)*15.2(2.19)*359.(-90.)*0.87(7.69) > 02-MAR-2005 1105 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*1.74(5.41) > 02-MAR-2005 1120 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.2(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1135 CW2172 *1011.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.4)*15.5(-0.8)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1150 CW2172 *1011.(-2.6)* > 20(-0.4)*14.8(-0.1)*359.(-81.)*0.87(6.28) > 02-MAR-2005 1204 CW2172 *1011.( -2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1220 CW2172 *1012.(-2.2)* > 21(-1.9)*16.4(-0.9)*359.(-89.)*0.87(5.01) > 02-MAR-2005 1235 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*16.1(-0.6)*359.(-89.)*2.61(3.27) > 02-MAR-2005 1250 CW2172 *1012.(-2.4)* > 21(-1.9)*15.2(0.26)*359.(-89.)*1.74(4.14) > 02-MAR-2005 2035 CW2172 *1012.( -2)* > 26(-2.6)*14.1(-0.5)*359.(-81.)*3.48( > 6.8) > 02-MAR-2005 2050 CW2172 *1012.(-2.1)* > 25(-1.6)*11.1(2.37)*359.(-82.)*4.34(5.66) > 02-MAR-2005 2105 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*11.1(-1.1)*359.(-82.)*2.61(7.44) > 02-MAR-2005 2120 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 25(-1.8)*10.3(-0.3)*359.(-82.)*3.48(6.58) > 02-MAR-2005 2135 CW2172 *1013.(-2.2)* > 26(-2.8)*11.2(-1.2)*359.(-84.)*2.61(6.57) > 02-MAR-2005 2149 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 25(-1.8)*10.7(-0.7)*359.(-81.)*3.48(6.94) > 02-MAR-2005 2220 CW2172 *1013.(-2.3)* > 24(-2.2)*11.8(-1.9)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2235 CW2172 *1013.(-2.4)* > 24(-2.2)*10.6(-0.8)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2250 CW2172 *1014.(-2.6)* > 23(-1.2)*8.86(0.98)*359.(-76.)*2.61(6.02) > 02-MAR-2005 2305 CW2172 *1014.(-2.1)* > 23(-2.1)*9.27(0.59)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2320 CW2172 *1014.(-2.5)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*3.48(4.73) > 02-MAR-2005 2335 CW2172 *1015.( -3)* > 23(-2.1)*10.4(-0.6)*359.(-74.)*2.61( > 5.6) > 02-MAR-2005 Errs CW2172 * 46/96 * 0/96 * 0/95 * 0/96 * 0/96 > 02-MAR-2005 Smry CW2172 > *-1.9(0.37)*-2.3(1.14)*-0.4(1.26)*-85.(6.04)*6.12(1.14) > > Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are 'Observed (error)' > The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed > value is higher > than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have > to pick out > the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a > daily summary > and the data is 'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation > during that > day. > > Graphs: > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050303&site=C2172 > > > For more information about quality checking, then visit > http://www.wxqa.com/ > To discuss, sign up to WXQC at > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > To stop this email, just click the link > http://pond.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/weather-qc.pl?act=unsub&pwd=aadf83af 24 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc _______________________________________________ wxqc mailing list wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc From sam at wa4phy.net Fri Mar 11 16:55:19 2005 From: sam at wa4phy.net (Sam Drinkard) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:55:19 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Madis history list & QC Message-ID: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> From the looks of the history lists of data on the madis display page, it appears that on the altimeter, full QC is not done on every reading, but only stages 1 and 2. Every other entry under alt shows an S or V, with sometimes doubles of each. Is my assumption all wet, or is there a reason for the alternating QC indications? Also, wind direction usually shows up with either a C or a V. Same reason? Not to worry tho, as I see the same kind of QC applied to the local ASOS data from AGS and DNL. Looks like we're in for another blow this evening and tonight with gusts to 30kts already at AGS/DNL. Are we ever going to have a break from this persistant longwave trof and multiple SW's dropping down every other day ? It's nearly spring, but the trees and flowers don't know whether to bud out yet or not! -- Snowman From kansasphotos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 21:33:13 2005 From: kansasphotos at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:33:13 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors Message-ID: <012c01c526ab$da2ccf40$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block right now regarding whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone clarify that for me. Thanks don -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050311/fb3e51a2/attachment-0002.html From kansasphotos at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 21:45:59 2005 From: kansasphotos at gmail.com (Don Palmer) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:45:59 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors Message-ID: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * 2/96 I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block right now regarding whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone clarify that for me. Thanks From philip at gladstonefamily.net Sat Mar 12 08:16:25 2005 From: philip at gladstonefamily.net (Philip Gladstone) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:16:25 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] QC errors In-Reply-To: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> References: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Message-ID: <4232EBA9.1010508@gladstonefamily.net> Don As I understand it, the wind speed and direction are not quality checked as two sperate items. The QC check is performed on the North-south component of the wind vector, and on the East-West component. If their check fails, then the QC fails for both wind speed and direction. In your particular case, the email did not include the troublesome lines as I do a certain amount of filtering before sending out the email to eliminate single qc failures. This was due to issues with the QC process itself -- a phenomenon that I refer to as 'jaggies' You can sometimes see on the qc charts that the 'analysis' line has jaggies in it, and this generates bogus error readings. Philip Don Palmer wrote: > I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * > (KNT) > 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * > 2/96 > > I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental > block right now regarding > whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could > someone clarify that for > me. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > From Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov Mon Mar 14 13:32:03 2005 From: Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov (Michael F Barth) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:32:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] Madis history list & QC In-Reply-To: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> References: <423213C7.90602@wa4phy.net> Message-ID: Sam, Thanks for noticing this, as it turns out its a bug in the display software, as almost every last observation should have the full QC (particularly true for APRSWXNET and CWOP). Hopefully we'll get this fixed soon. The more eyes looking at the data the better! Thanks, Mike On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Sam Drinkard wrote: > From the looks of the history lists of data on the madis display page, it > appears that on the altimeter, full QC is not done on every reading, but only > stages 1 and 2. Every other entry under alt shows an S or V, with sometimes > doubles of each. Is my assumption all wet, or is there a reason for the > alternating QC indications? Also, wind direction usually shows up with > either a C or a V. Same reason? Not to worry tho, as I see the same kind of > QC applied to the local ASOS data from AGS and DNL. > > Looks like we're in for another blow this evening and tonight with gusts to > 30kts already at AGS/DNL. Are we ever going to have a break from this > persistant longwave trof and multiple SW's dropping down every other day ? > It's nearly spring, but the trees and flowers don't know whether to bud out > yet or not! > > -- > Snowman > > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > From Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov Mon Mar 14 13:37:01 2005 From: Michael.F.Barth at noaa.gov (Michael F Barth) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:37:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [wxqc] QC errors In-Reply-To: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> References: <014401c526ad$a160a3b0$6401a8c0@ANONYMOUS> Message-ID: Don, The QC is actually done on the U and V components of the wind. The errors are then translated back to direction and speed, and if either U or V fails the QC, both dir and speed are marked as failed. Thanks, Mike On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Don Palmer wrote: > I'll try this again since I was not in text only format. > > DATE UTC SITE * ALT * POT TEMP * DEW PNT * DD * FF > * (MB) * (DEG F) * (DEG F) * (DEG) * (KNT) > 11-MAR-2005 Errs CW2327 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 0/96 * 2/96 * 2/96 > > I know this is apparently showing two errors, but I've got a mental block > right now regarding > whether this is referring to WIND direction or WIND speed - could someone > clarify that for > me. Thanks > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > From tigman at cableone.net Fri Mar 18 21:57:55 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:57:55 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Message-ID: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/5d225b41/attachment-0001.html From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 22:16:51 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:51 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Hi Steve, What operating system do you have? What price range are you considering? What functions are you interested in? Dave -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/597a2a9b/attachment-0002.html From wolfstalks at gmail.com Fri Mar 18 22:21:06 2005 From: wolfstalks at gmail.com (Bob Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:21:06 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: References: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Hello Steve, I would really recommend visiting the two major (in my opinion) software support foroums. Virtual Weather Station: http://users.boardnation.com/~ambient/index.php Weather Display http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php Ask other users of the same station for their input and recommendations, heck someone may suggest something other then the two I mentioned above... The best of luck, Bob On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:16:51 -0500, Sandy and David Helms wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > What operating system do you have? > > What price range are you considering? > > What functions are you interested in? > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net > [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / > N7DPX > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM > To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? > > > Hello, > I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station > software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? > Thanks for any coments in advance. > > Steve / N7DPX > Lakeside,Az. > _______________________________________________ > wxqc mailing list > wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net > http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/wxqc > > > -- JaxWeather.net Jacksonville, Fl (Lakeshore, 32205) Local Weather http://JaxWeather.net A WolfStalks Network Property http://WolfStalks.com From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 22:41:27 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (Sandy and David Helms) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:41:27 -0500 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, You might try checking out Gary Oldham's page: http://www.ag-weather.com/ Gary reviews software supporting the Davis Vantage Pro; these software generally also support the WMR-968 station. You can see which applications support both stations on the http://cwop.info page. Dave CW0351 -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:58 PM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/2276e473/attachment-0002.html From doncline at comcast.net Fri Mar 18 23:41:02 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:41:02 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003201c5162e$c4273e20$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, I have a WMR968, which I really like, running the Virtual Weather Station software. It takes a bit of reading, but there are many software features in the program that allow you to tweak the output of the weather station. I also have WX Flash which allows you to create a cool web page with various icons which I really like too. I have it running at www.p80.org/weather If you haven't already figured it out, the manual provided with the WMR-968 is pretty much worthless. There is, however, a nicely presented version (36 pages) made for the Radio Shack branded WMR-968. If you haven't seen it, email me for a copy. Good luck, Don Cline www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:58 PM To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hello, I was wandering if anyone can tell me which is the best Weather station software to use with the Oregon Scientific WMR-968 433 MHZ wireless system? Thanks for any coments in advance. Steve / N7DPX Lakeside,Az. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/0cbcea3b/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 01:27:53 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:27:53 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <008b01c5164c$12cdcd10$37395c45@XP> Hi Don, I would like some more info on that (36page)manual from Radio Shack.You are totally right about the manual that came with my Wx station.I think my station is giving me some false readings and would like to find out how to calibrate it via software or what ever means? I tried to go tho the link to your Wx flash page and it would not show me anything except A small box in the upper left with a red X in the center.I haven't figured that problem out as yet. Anyway thanks for your time on the above matters. Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You need to have Macromedia Flash to see the page I mentioned, It takes a few seconds to load but on cable or dsl you should be in good shape. Don (W7FAA) www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:27 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hi Don, I would like some more info on that (36page)manual from Radio Shack.You are totally right about the manual that came with my Wx station.I think my station is giving me some false readings and would like to find out how to calibrate it via software or what ever means? I tried to go tho the link to your Wx flash page and it would not show me anything except A small box in the upper left with a red X in the center.I haven't figured that problem out as yet. Anyway thanks for your time on the above matters. Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/df26a6b4/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 01:45:25 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 06:45:25 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <00c101c5164e$84289740$37395c45@XP> HI Don, I thought that might be the problem?I have tried to get the Macromedia Flash several times but for some reason my machine won't let it download.I am not sure waht that problem is at this point? I am runnig a 2.9 gig P4 with cable 3.0Meg and 512 meg of ram.Thanks for the PDF file also.I think that something in my machine is not is not letting me get the Flash Player for some reason. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/a9f81af0/attachment-0001.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 01:50:43 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:50:43 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <00c101c5164e$84289740$37395c45@XP> Message-ID: Steve, Just sent the .PDF in a separate email. You should have it soon. Here is the link to get the latest Flash player http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer Don Cline W7FAA www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:45 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? HI Don, I thought that might be the problem?I have tried to get the Macromedia Flash several times but for some reason my machine won't let it download.I am not sure waht that problem is at this point? I am runnig a 2.9 gig P4 with cable 3.0Meg and 512 meg of ram.Thanks for the PDF file also.I think that something in my machine is not is not letting me get the Flash Player for some reason. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/206428c8/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 02:21:50 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 07:21:50 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <001001c51653$8662dd90$f72d7718@XP> Don, Got the PDF just fine TNX.I am going to try to download the FLash Player at this time.Thanks for the link to it also.............. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/1f480dd8/attachment-0001.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 02:25:06 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:25:06 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <001001c51653$8662dd90$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: Good, glad you received it o.k. It really is a useful guide to installing your station. Let me know how the Flash installation works. Don www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:21 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Don, Got the PDF just fine TNX.I am going to try to download the FLash Player at this time.Thanks for the link to it also.............. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050318/e5bedc34/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 03:54:15 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:54:15 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <005601c51660$8417c930$f72d7718@XP> Hi Don, Well the manual has already helped me on some of my settings.Thanks a bunch!!! Still no luck with the Flash Player? It says its in my IE6 plugin file but still can't get to your site.Getting pretty tired here so I will try again in the morning(later morning)Thanks for all of your help Don. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/cffafb18/attachment-0001.html From doncline at comcast.net Sat Mar 19 03:59:36 2005 From: doncline at comcast.net (Don Cline) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:59:36 -0800 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <005601c51660$8417c930$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: Steve, You're welcome. Maybe we can fix that Flash problem tomorrow. Don W7FAA www.p80.org/weather _____ From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net] On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 12:54 AM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Hi Don, Well the manual has already helped me on some of my settings.Thanks a bunch!!! Still no luck with the Flash Player? It says its in my IE6 plugin file but still can't get to your site.Getting pretty tired here so I will try again in the morning(later morning)Thanks for all of your help Don. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/8c7e089c/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 14:17:42 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:17:42 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <000c01c516b7$be7d0de0$f72d7718@XP> Hi Don, Well I finally got the flash player problem taken care of! I just went to a differant browser(Netscape)Never used it before but I am now able to view your WX station.Looks real nice Don !!I still haven't decided on which wx software to purchase?I am trying the virtual wx station from Ambient. I found out from the PDF you sent me that my outdoor hydro sensor is in a bad palce,so when the wx here gets alittle nicer I need to move it from where it is(direct sunlight and in the rain or snow)so like I said the pdf was very helpful so far.I still can't seem to get my indoor sensor to read the proper barometer reading.So I am going to work on that today. Its been trying to snow here all morning.We are supposed to get around 3-6 inches here at 7200 ft. by tommorow night.My wife is taking me to Vegas for our 32nd.so let it snow!!! We are leaving on Monday and will be there for three days.Might not want to come back HI!!Anyway thaanks again for your help Don.ANd like I said I am able to veiw your wx page now!!! Do you have any Echolink nodes near you Don?I have a node on 146.54 sim. here.And the node # is 1259 if you have one near you you can connect to me direct or if there is one by you I can do the same.Just a thought............ Best 73's Don tnx agn Steve/N7DPX Lakeside,Arizona Echo Link Node # 1259 /146.54 sim. 190 N.E. of Phoenix,Az. At 7200 feet in the White Mountains CWOP WX station CW3490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/b07dd3a0/attachment-0001.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 14:24:32 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:24:32 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <002301c516b8$b2ac0a60$f72d7718@XP> Don, I forgot to ask you if you know Joe K7JAL he is a friend of my in Washington.He was with the FAA for along time I wander if you guys ever crossed paths? Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's the link to the guide: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dshelms/CWOP_Guide.pdf (2.2 mb and 88 pages) I have noticed very creative instructions for sensor siting from both software and weather station vendors. Follow these instructions with caution as they will not always yield optimal results. If possible, please follow the CWOP Guide's instructions as these have been validated by professional meteorologists. Dave CW0351 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/58a4b25f/attachment-0002.html From tigman at cableone.net Sat Mar 19 15:32:39 2005 From: tigman at cableone.net (Steve Luenz / N7DPX) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:32:39 -0000 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? References: Message-ID: <003701c516c2$3261e4b0$f72d7718@XP> Thanks Dave for the heads up.And for the other info you sent as well.Ok on the point to point also,Sorry bout that!! Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/b15f8210/attachment-0001.html From aledoweather at frontiernet.net Sat Mar 19 16:17:10 2005 From: aledoweather at frontiernet.net (aledoweather at frontiernet.net) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:17:10 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? In-Reply-To: <003701c516c2$3261e4b0$f72d7718@XP> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net [mailto:wxqc-bounces at lists.gladstonefamily.net]On Behalf Of Steve Luenz / N7DPX Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:33 PM To: Discussion of data quality issues Subject: Re: [wxqc] Weather Station Software? Thanks Dave for the heads up.And for the other info you sent as well.Ok on the point to point also,Sorry bout that!! Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050319/7329cce6/attachment-0002.html From cjfasciano at comcast.net Sun Mar 20 17:30:35 2005 From: cjfasciano at comcast.net (Christopher J. Fasciano) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:30:35 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] wind direction Message-ID: <032020052230.24029.423DF98B000420D600005DDD220073483001020E070C9C0E00060C@comcast.net> After a few days in the 40s and mid 50s, my wind direciton still reads North (359 degrees). Did the winter take its toll on it? I can't afford a new line or directional. I will hold out hope til mid-summer that it corrects itself. Thanks. CW2172 and kpanorth4 are my 2 handles...Thanks! -- Christopher J. Fasciano -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/pipermail/wxqc/attachments/20050322/94d753cd/attachment-0002.html From hugal at ott.net Fri Mar 25 15:47:30 2005 From: hugal at ott.net (Al Huggard) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:47:30 -0600 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude Message-ID: <001201c5317b$e0be8d50$5cd2f446@al07ti2sxm71qt> On my first error report I seem to be +2.00 MB off on my altitude. Does anyone know about how much I should adjust my station elevation setting to correct for this error. I am in feet above sea level. There are other errors, all well placed within the target range but seems to me that the elevation should be easy to correct with knowledge of the right factor or formula also, what is the source of the standard altitude. Because I am 21.6 miles to the next closest sample site I am not to concerned about temp and wind numbers as shown on the graph distribution. Al Huggard CW3525. From dshelms at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 16:13:31 2005 From: dshelms at comcast.net (dshelms at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:13:31 +0000 Subject: [wxqc] Altitude Message-ID: <032520052113.28347.42447EFB000269BF00006EBB22007623029C03040A089C0B@comcast.net> Al, I find the elevation for your position to be: 300.2 meters, 985 feet http://www.acme.com/mapper/?lat=38.58250&long=-95.38033&scale=10&theme=Topo&width=3&height=2&dot=Yes ... this differs from your elevation in the CWOP database, 279.4 meters, 917 feet. Which elevation is correct? Once you set your correction, you should calibrate the pressure using a know calibration source. As you noted, you are about 2 millibars (00.06 inches of mercury) too low the analysis. Here's a comparison with the larger airports which confirms the 2 mb difference: http://pond1.gladstonefamily.net:8080/cgi-bin/wxqchart.pl?date=20050325&site=C3525&addnl=KFOE&addnl=KTOP&Add+to+charts=Add+to+charts&.cgifields=addnl So, simply increase the pressure measurement by 2 millibars (00.06inches). Thanks, Dave CW0351 -------------- Original message -------------- > On my first error report I seem to be +2.00 MB off on my altitude. Does > anyone know about how much I should adjust my station elevation setting to > correct for this error. I am in feet above sea level. There are other > errors, all well placed within the target range but seems to me that the > elevation should be easy to correct with knowledge of the right factor or > formula also, wha