[wxqc] Re: wxqc Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9

Tom Barstow tbarstow at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 18 12:12:19 EDT 2005


I sent a message off over the weekend to have them change my 
location.  When I went on the map I got it down to the top of my roof.  Its 
amazing the map showed my house in the picture when I zoom in.

My Lat:  36:27:15N
Lon:  76:04:51

I think what happen is when I first sign up I went to a site they mention 
gave zip 27958.  Once signed up I saw the map on web site and saw it was 
off.  So I change setting and zoom into my house and the above is my exact 
location within a few fee.  Anyhow I sent a message off over weekend as 
stated in report to have it changed to above.

Thanks for replies it just bother me when I get these reports.  I was under 
the understanding you only get them if there's a problem.  If things look 
good then you don't see them.  I get them all the time.

Any how everyone have a nice week and better weather coming <grin>.  I see 
it all I travel all 49 states and Canada weekly.

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>    1. Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please
>       check warning (Tom Barstow)
>    2. Re: Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please
>       check warning (Dave Helms)
>    3. Re: Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please
>       check warning (Philip Gladstone)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:28:26 -0400
>From: Tom Barstow <tbarstow at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [wxqc] Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 --
>         please check warning
>To: wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net
>Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050417222435.01e7d628 at mail.earthlink.net>
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>Any one can tell me what's wrong with my Weather Reports.  I get these all
>the time.  I look at the KECG and KCPK reading and they look real close to
>mine.  A lot of time we run the same temp, wind direction, wind speed
>etc.  Not sure what's up with this.
>
>
> >Date: 18 Apr 2005 01:07:36 -0000
> >From: Weather Quality <weather-qc at nospam.gladstonefamily.net>
> >To: tbarstow at earthlink.net
> >Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please check warning
> >User-agent: Automated weather quality control sender:
> >http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
> >X-ELNK-AV: 0
> >
> >    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT
> > *    DD    *    FF
> >                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F)
> > *   (DEG)  *   (KNT)
> >17-APR-2005 Errs    CW2967
> >*   0/88   *   0/88   *   3/88   *   0/88   *   0/88
> >17-APR-2005 Week    CW2967
> >*0.25(0.28)*0.35(2.34)*1.17(3.15)*-23.(45.9)*2.67(2.78)
> >
> >Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are  'Observed (error)'
> >The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value is
> >higher
> >than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to 
> pick out
> >the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a daily
> >summary
> >and the data is  'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation during
> >that day.
> >The 'Week' row is the summary for the preceding 7 days.
> >
> >WARNING: The location for CW2967 was entered as latitude 36.4858,
> >longitude -76.0753. However, the location that is reported via APRS is
> >latitude 36.4542, longitude -76.0808. This difference is around 2.2
> >miles. Please check to see which is correct, and either adjust your
> >software or your registered location by sending email to
> ><Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov>. Check your information at
> >http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxsite.pl?site=C2967
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:16:46 -0400
>From: Dave Helms <dshelms at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [wxqc] Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 --
>         please  check warning
>To: Discussion of data quality issues <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
>Cc: Julie Singewald <Julie.Singewald at noaa.gov>, Russ Chadwick
>         <russ at wxqa.com>
>Message-ID: <4263269E.3090507 at comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Tom,
>
>This is a statistical summary of your weather station's reports which is
>a service provided by this listserver.  The summary shows exactly what
>you already know, your data tracks well with the professional weather
>stations.  Of the 88 reports evaluated, not "questionable" observations
>were found for your pressure (ALT), temperature (POT TEMP), wind
>direction (DD), and wind speed (FF).  A small number of dew point (DEW
>PNT) reports, 3 of 88, were flagged.  This doesn't mean the 3 dew point
>reports were wrong, just that they were different from what was expected.
>
>The warning message at the bottom of the message was generated because
>your weather station's location in the CWOP database is different from
>the location you are reporting in your current APRS reports.
>
>1. CWOP database location:
>http://www.wxqa.com/states/NC.html
>Latitude:         36.48583N
>Longitude:      76.07533W
>
>2. Position currently in your APRS weather reports:
>http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=CW2967
>http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=36.45417&lon=-76.08083&s=100&size=s
>Latitude:        36.45417N
>Longitude:     76.08083W
>
>I recall we had determined the position in the APRS message is the most
>accurate position, but this position apparently didn't get updated in
>the CWOP database.  If this is true, Julie and Russ will update your
>CWOP station data with the #2 position listed above.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dave
>CW0351
>
>
>Tom Barstow wrote:
>
> > Any one can tell me what's wrong with my Weather Reports.  I get these
> > all the time.  I look at the KECG and KCPK reading and they look real
> > close to mine.  A lot of time we run the same temp, wind direction,
> > wind speed etc.  Not sure what's up with this.
> >
> >
> >> Date: 18 Apr 2005 01:07:36 -0000
> >> From: Weather Quality <weather-qc at nospam.gladstonefamily.net>
> >> To: tbarstow at earthlink.net
> >> Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please check
> >> warning
> >> User-agent: Automated weather quality control sender:
> >> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
> >> X-ELNK-AV: 0
> >>
> >>    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT *
> >> DD    *    FF
> >>                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *
> >> (DEG)  *   (KNT)
> >> 17-APR-2005 Errs    CW2967 *   0/88   *   0/88   *   3/88   *
> >> 0/88   *   0/88
> >> 17-APR-2005 Week    CW2967
> >> *0.25(0.28)*0.35(2.34)*1.17(3.15)*-23.(45.9)*2.67(2.78)
> >>
> >> Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are  'Observed (error)'
> >> The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value
> >> is higher
> >> than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to
> >> pick out
> >> the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a
> >> daily summary
> >> and the data is  'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation
> >> during that day.
> >> The 'Week' row is the summary for the preceding 7 days.
> >>
> >> WARNING: The location for CW2967 was entered as latitude 36.4858,
> >> longitude -76.0753. However, the location that is reported via APRS is
> >> latitude 36.4542, longitude -76.0808. This difference is around 2.2
> >> miles. Please check to see which is correct, and either adjust your
> >> software or your registered location by sending email to
> >> <Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov>. Check your information at
> >> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxsite.pl?site=C2967
> >
> >
> >
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:20:10 -0400
>From: Philip Gladstone <philip at gladstonefamily.net>
>Subject: Re: [wxqc] Fwd: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 --
>         please  check warning
>To: Discussion of data quality issues <wxqc at lists.gladstonefamily.net>
>Message-ID: <4263276A.6030402 at gladstonefamily.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Tom,
>
>Your numbers look good -- the dew point is a little off, but I wouldn't
>worry about it.
>
>However, there is a difference between your registered location (when
>you signed up with CWOP) and the locatin that you report with each
>weather message.
>
>You can see both at:
>
>http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/CW2967
>
>My personal guess is that the registered location is incorrect, and the
>APRS location (what you entered into your weather station software) is
>correct.
>
>You can also see that you have a temperature shielding problem (like
>many of us!) -- check the temperature graph shown in that page -- in
>particular, compare the daytime and nighttime portions of it.
>
>Philip
>
>Tom Barstow wrote:
>
> > Any one can tell me what's wrong with my Weather Reports.  I get these
> > all the time.  I look at the KECG and KCPK reading and they look real
> > close to mine.  A lot of time we run the same temp, wind direction,
> > wind speed etc.  Not sure what's up with this.
> >
> >
> >> Date: 18 Apr 2005 01:07:36 -0000
> >> From: Weather Quality <weather-qc at nospam.gladstonefamily.net>
> >> To: tbarstow at earthlink.net
> >> Subject: Weather data quality report for 2005-04-17 -- please check
> >> warning
> >> User-agent: Automated weather quality control sender:
> >> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net
> >> X-ELNK-AV: 0
> >>
> >>    DATE     UTC      SITE  *   ALT    * POT TEMP *  DEW PNT *
> >> DD    *    FF
> >>                            *   (MB)   *  (DEG F) *  (DEG F) *
> >> (DEG)  *   (KNT)
> >> 17-APR-2005 Errs    CW2967 *   0/88   *   0/88   *   3/88   *
> >> 0/88   *   0/88
> >> 17-APR-2005 Week    CW2967
> >> *0.25(0.28)*0.35(2.34)*1.17(3.15)*-23.(45.9)*2.67(2.78)
> >>
> >> Note that times are in UTC. The values displayed are  'Observed (error)'
> >> The error value is 'analysis - observed'. I.e. if your observed value
> >> is higher
> >> than the computed value, then the error will be negative. You have to
> >> pick out
> >> the reading that is in error. The row with the time of 'Smry' is a
> >> daily summary
> >> and the data is  'mean(standard deviation)' for each observation
> >> during that day.
> >> The 'Week' row is the summary for the preceding 7 days.
> >>
> >> WARNING: The location for CW2967 was entered as latitude 36.4858,
> >> longitude -76.0753. However, the location that is reported via APRS is
> >> latitude 36.4542, longitude -76.0808. This difference is around 2.2
> >> miles. Please check to see which is correct, and either adjust your
> >> software or your registered location by sending email to
> >> <Russell.B.Chadwick at noaa.gov>. Check your information at
> >> http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/cgi-bin/wxsite.pl?site=C2967
> >
> >
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>
>--
>Philip Gladstone
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